2013 and earlier Honda Odyssey Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • shintaroshintaro Member Posts: 3
    i would like to team-up with other people to get a better group rate/price on an 08 EXL in the houston area. we're ready to buy now but would be willing to wait for a much better deal if needed. thanks.
  • middlefiddlemiddlefiddle Member Posts: 4
    So,
    We're looking at an EX and I asked for exactly what tax, tag, & FEES meant.

    This dealer installs the protection package (cargo tray in the cargo well, wheel locks, and mud guards) $399 (Apparently $899 retail?)
    Pinstripe $55
    Dealer Fee $699

    The way I see it, that's over $1100 of "padding" built in to the deal. I don't want pinstriping and I could care less about the "protection package"

    When I asked specifically about the dealer fee, here's what they said:

    "The dealer fee is to cover costs that the dealer incurs. This is like the destination charge and is a non-negotiable cost of doing business."

    Am I crazy to think that is the most ridiculous statement?

    How about SELLING CARS covers costs that the dealer incurs?

    I guess I won't worry about it too much, but I will be negotiating that $699 off the price. Shooting for invoice minus the $2500 minus the $699. Wish me luck.

    Any other ridiculous dealer fees out there?
  • nobodyyouknownobodyyouknow Member Posts: 21
    The fee is sometimes called a "lot fee," "dock fee", "processing fee," or "dealer fee."

    It is nothing more than a way to guarantee that there's some built in profit in the deal. Some states limit the amount dealers can charge. (See Maryland). Other states have no such limit. It's funny how it shows up at Saturn dealers' no-haggle pricing, effectively raising the price.

    Bottom line is that it is absolutely negotiable. I have never paid it and have always told dealers that if they have to show it on the sales documents, they can just back it out of the price such that bottom line doesn't change. Never been really challenged on it.

    It is all smoke and mirrors at the end of the day.

    But you're aboslutely right. And wise consumers don't pay the inflated prices for those "add-on" window sticker items. One dealer told me how i got mud flaps, pinstriping, and floor mats for he $1000 he wanted to charge. When I asked why is he charging for the floor mats when the window sticker shows them as included, he was stumped.

    Call it what you want, but accessory charges are another way of making up the money on the deal. In these markets and on these cars, IMO, I wouldn't pay a penny for "accessories." Buy them separately or online and save yourself some coin.
  • thetruthkcthetruthkc Member Posts: 5
    A lot of the Virginia dealerships charge $300+ for doc fees and add a $499 appearance package to the car. From what I can tell, it is mudguards, door trim, and wheel locks, and that awesome pinstriping. What a ripoff.

    Thankfully the DC metro area has about 10 different dealers. The Maryland dealerships only have a $100 (or less) doc fee and no other dealer addons.

    We'll be paying cash + no trade in. The deal we have is 08 EX-L R+N:
    Invoice - $2500 - 2% holdback ($716) - $780 (i have no idea) = $28,419

    OTD = $31,183

    With these discounts, we're debating getting the Touring for only $2800 more.
  • sneezy2sneezy2 Member Posts: 20
    Speaking of new promotions, I just saw a TV ad this morning by Gillman Houston & Ft. Bend. It went by really quick, but I think they're offering 0% APR on 2008 ODY and Pilots! Ironically, they've been a little slow in responding to my requests. That's why I made appt elsewhere. Will keep you posted.
  • skynsunnyskynsunny Member Posts: 2
    23420 + TTL. = 25100 at David McDavid Frisco. ( included Mudguard/WheelLock/Front Tint and paint/seat protection)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,261
    I bet you are in GA or FL?

    If you know about the fee, it's just easier to negotiate a price, taking that into account, and knowing they are going to add that fee on at the end...

    It's just how they explain it with a straight face that gets me... :surprise:

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  • jgzjgz Member Posts: 28
    I've sent an email requesting quote on buying two cars together. Will let you know the result. You may also start to send inquires. See how it goes.
  • middlefiddlemiddlefiddle Member Posts: 4
    Yep. I'm in FL.

    It cracks me up too.

    That's basically what I decided to do. This salesperson seems "sold" on the idea that it was a "non-negotiable" item that would be charged. So, I'll pay it- but negotiated the buying price with that taken into account.

    Right now I'm at
    $24,399. The other costs involved are:
    1.50 battery disposal fee
    5.00 tire disposal fee
    24.00 electronic filing fee
    $599. for the dealer fee.

    How's that look for a standard EX?

    What should a tag transfer cost me?
    I'm leasing so I won't have to worry about tax (except on the payment)- correct?
  • shintaroshintaro Member Posts: 3
    the lowest OTD price i got so far is from sterling-mccall for $ 29,727 but the car has 110 miles on it already, if paid in cash it will be $1000 less. please keep me posted. thanks in advance!
  • exbuyerexbuyer Member Posts: 3
    The car price looks a bit high.

    If you are leasing or purchasing (without honda financing), which is what I am currently doing, you should be able to get the EX for around 24K (dest included). I have multiple quotes at 23900 (which is invoice, minus the $2500 dealer cash, minus the 2% holdaback) plus doc fees of around 150 or so (in NJ). Not sure if the deals are as good down South though.
  • xierxier Member Posts: 99
    Well I recetly went through the RFQ process for a Honda Odyssey Touring no Pax and thought I'd share the #'s that I received in case anyone in the Bay is looking to buy (PM me and I can send you the actual email/quote dealer etc...). I ended up buying a 08 Sequoia Platinum but that's for a different forum.

    I found that there are not very many Touring models in the Bay. Talking to dealers it appears that Bay folks do not buy very many Touring therefore the dealers I spoke with do not tend to stock more than a few at a time. At the same time I asked about 09's and was told the 09's would cost approx 4K more than the #'s I was getting on the 08's (not that I believe that based on what happend last year when the 08's came out).

    These were quoted with .9 Percent for 36mo.
    Lowest Quote W/ Desitnation was $33,900K
    Average Quote W/ Destination was 34,500K

    Not too many colors to choose from - lots of nimbus and the green/gray color (forgot code/name).

    I was struggling with buying 08 vs 09 since we are within weeks of 09's... I figured that since there were not many Touring's at dealers that 09's would quickly (by Nov/Dec) be back in line with 44 to 45K price point. In any event I came very close to buying a Touring but in the end got cold feet (Could not make the practical choice - BIG V8SUV vs Great People Hauling and Fuel Economy Van). Perhap's if 09's were already out and deals were in the same range I would have gone the other way.

    Representative Quote -

    This is for a 2008 Odyssey Touring w/o Pax.

    Selling Price: $34,750.00
    Accessories: $0.00
    F&I Products: $0.00
    Sales Tax: $2,871.41
    Trade Prior Balance: $0.00
    Doc Prep Fee: $55.00
    CA Tire fee: $8.75
    CA New Vehicle Licensing Fee: $291.00
    CA County Fee: $10.00

    TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE: $37,986.16
  • middlefiddlemiddlefiddle Member Posts: 4
    $24399 is invoice minus the $2500 basically

    I'm happy with that.
  • gplkrrgplkrr Member Posts: 8
    Hello-
    I am in NC- and am planning to buy an EXL-RES.
    This is the best I got- based on quotes and negotiation w/ several dealers

    Sale Price $26,343.53
    Destination charge $670.00
    Wheel Locks & Mud Guards: $245.00
    3% NC sales tax $817.76
    processing / doc $399.00
    tag & title $69.00

    Total OTD $28,544

    Questions:
    1. Thoughts on the deal…Does this sound reasonable? Any specific line items where I can do better…
    2. Do I really need the mud-guard and wheel locks. The dealer is pushing it?
    3. The dealer say says that if I take the Honda financing- the price will go up by $1000. Is that true?
    4. What accessory should I push for the dealer to throw in?
    5. Do floor carpets and cargo tray come standard on EXL-Res

    Would appreciate any inputs that anyone can provide.
    Thank so much
    Gplkr
  • liminerliminer Member Posts: 6
    I live in the bay area, san francisco. I did team up with another buyer; sent out emails to all the dealerships around this area. My target price is $25,500 so it's pretty close. I guess it's the right time to make the purchase now. Good luck.

    BTW, the car turned out great, everything is fine. I'm worry-free now. Thanks for all your answers.
  • artispeeartispee Member Posts: 8
    I plan to purchase a 2008 EX-L with RES in the next week or so and have been requesting quotes from several dealers--local and out of state. I would love to know the name of the dealership you are working with. I am in the St Louis area and the lowest quote I have been able to get is 26,233 w/o RES. The dealers want 1600.00 for RES and 3250.00 for RES/NAV which is utterly ridiculous. I would be willing to give the deal to someone else because the dealers in this area don't really seem to want to work for your business and I would certainly give it to someone who would.
  • honda77honda77 Member Posts: 1
    I am also shopping for EX-L with RES, can you share the dealer information
  • exbuyerexbuyer Member Posts: 3
    Base EX. Closed the deal yesterday (MSRP $29630)

    23150 + 670 destination + 199 doc fee = $24019

    Employed donkeypunch method. Many quotes in the same general vicinity.
  • jgzjgz Member Posts: 28
    I didn't get the quote for two-car deal. Instead the sales manager said he will introduce "us" to the general manager. I'm free tomorrow. If you want to go bargaining together, please drop me a line.
  • shintaroshintaro Member Posts: 3
    tomorrow sounds good. which dealership is that? can you e-mail me pls. shintaro1272@yahoo.com.
  • liveandletliveliveandletlive Member Posts: 9
    Hi. I'm still in the market for a EX-L but can easily wait for September unless we get a good deal. I had to work tomorrow regular office hours. What dealer and time you're looking for? I'm ready to buy but not in a rush.
  • jgzjgz Member Posts: 28
    I'd try Gillman since they have 100 EXL (bet they want to get rid off) and we can talk to GM directly. I'd target 26500+TTL for group of two, may be 26200 for three if you want to join. Does that sound reasonable?
  • reesyreesy Member Posts: 2
    anyone interested in forming a group?...25,600 to 25,800 + doc fee should easily get it done for a cash buyer...a group can probably get it a bit lower...business is way off at these places and i have to think they want to unload these cars prior to mid-Sept...
  • jgzjgz Member Posts: 28
    I've just checked their website and didn't find the 0% you saw on TV. But a interesting observation: their 08 EXL counts incresed from 45 a week ago to 100. What does that tell us?

    BTW, how was your Sterling MaCall adventure?
  • crvguy1crvguy1 Member Posts: 6
    Hi there,
    Any one want to team up to buy a 2008 Honda Odyssey EX-L in Columbus,Ohio.
  • gaquagaqua Member Posts: 7
    I am in the market for EX-L in SoCal.

    Has anyone from SoCal closed deals with a base price between $25,500 to $26,000 (incl destination) i.e excl TT&L.

    Appreciate any updates on this forum.

    G
  • backuesbackues Member Posts: 1
    I am from Dayton. When do you want to buy it?
  • rogerholrogerhol Member Posts: 2
    I just spent 3 hours at the Honda dealer trying to lease a EX-L R/N. I had reached out to about 4 other dealerships by phone and this one was the one that had the best starting offer which was 31K.

    They tried to increase the price by about $800 for a number of accessories they had on the car (Wheel locks, edge guards, tray liner, all season floor mats, and something else that was useless). I asked them to also add the cross bars. Eventually they agreed to include all of this for 31K but I certainly didn't feel like this was a good deal but they were pretty firm on this was as low as they would go.

    Then came the Lease discussion. The first offer was for payments of $590 before tax and before tax only fees upfront. After digging through the deatils and many iterations I finally got them down to $449/mo before tax with $2K upfront ($800 fees and $1200 cap cost reduction). Based on what I've read here I'm not comfortable this is a good deal. Here's the details as I understand them.

    MSRP - 36,480
    Cap Cost after upfront payment - 29,900
    Residual Value - .50
    Term - 36 months
    MF - .00265

    My reasoning for not being comforable with this: First, I qualified for 7.25% through Costco on a loan so I know I should be able to get a decent rate. 5 years ago I leased an Xterra and had a .00158 MF and my credit qualifications were much worse so I think I should be able to get a better money factor. Second, I've read repeatedly of people getting .52 to .55 residual value so I think I'm getting short changed there. Third, I also have been hearing of people getting prices of close to 29K so feel like I'm overpaying.

    So two questions I'm hoping to get help with. How should I feel about this deal? Am I getting a decent deal or would I be over paying? Second, Can anyone provide some pieces I can use to try to argue this down further. Some tangible things I can refer to as reasons I should get a better deal rather that I just have heard of people getting a better deal.

    I'm already thinking of asking them to remove all accessories and buying them after market. I can find them cheaper online anyway. But that will only reduce my payments a little and doesn't change the overall value of the deal.

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
  • crvguy1crvguy1 Member Posts: 6
    Hi,
    I am looking to buy EX-L in next 10 Days in Columbus, Ohio
    Please reply back if any one wants to team up.

    crvguy1
  • liveandletliveliveandletlive Member Posts: 9
    I'm somewhat biased against this dealer because they didn't honor an e-mail quote arguing a "mistake" on their side, see my earlier post. Also, I'm looking at the RES. If they really want to move inventory, the prices you have look reasonable. What time are you considering?
  • binthinknbinthinkn Member Posts: 3
    I am also in the market for one in central Ohio in the same time frame. I have worked with a dealer in Lancaster for several years and they seem to be fair. I have quote from them for an EX-L with Res, tow package, mud guards and rear tray for 30,030 plus TTL. I think we can do better. Email me at "jfoster" at "ohiopatent.com" (I took out the "at" symbol to try to keep web crawers from getting my email address) and let's see what we can work out. Also, I get a TON of spam, so put something in the subject line of your email like Honda Van or similar.
  • matthew123matthew123 Member Posts: 5
    We are shopping for a Honda Odyssey EX-L-RES in NJ and the best quote for OTD is 31,750. But everytime we show up they say they can't honor the price and ask us to come back if things change. It looks like the dealers in NJ don't want our business. Please let me know if anyone bought a EX-L-RES in the last couple of weeks in NJ with Honda's special financing offer and how much you paid for it. Thanks.
  • jgzjgz Member Posts: 28
    I'm waiting for the other person to call me. Most likely will go there late this afternoon. Hopefully we can get around sales people and talk to the general manager directly. I'm also considering RES, but only willing to pay $500~600 extra. If they would not lower EXL price, I'd try to ask them throw in a DVD.
  • sneezy2sneezy2 Member Posts: 20
    Just took delivery of EX-L yesterday! Included window tint and mudguards at no additional charge.
    It went VERY smoothly, as well as one could hope, with no surprises or pressure. Took about a little over 2 hrs. total from test drive to reading & signing paperwork. I'll post a full review later in the dealerships section under Sterling McCall Honda.
    As expected: sell price: 27036 + TTL = 28981
    (Add $1000 more if financed w/ Honda special APR)

    BTW, I hope more people will post reviews (on sales or service) on the dealerships!
    Even though there were only a few reviews, it helped me to choose between two places. Besides that, one salesman seemed pushier than the other
    (bad vibes).

    I spoke with someone at Gillman Ft. Bend and he said Gillman is picking up the cost to promote the 0% APR, as they "really need to move their inventory." Give them a call to confirm this.

    Good luck on the group buy. I think a selling price of 26,500-26,600 is not unreasonable.
  • jgzjgz Member Posts: 28
    It sounded you had very pleasant experience and congratulations! Your info is really helpful. We shall try the "no-cost" 0% then. I'm looking forward to reading your detaled review (please give us a link).

    How many dealerships have you visited before you went to Kingwood?
  • jgzjgz Member Posts: 28
    liveandletlive: Are you going to join us? We plan to go there, say 4~5pm. When are you off from work? Please drop us a line.
  • titanmantitanman Member Posts: 5
    crvguy, i'm in zanesville and have a quote on an exl-res and navi for 450.00/month for 3 years with zero out of pocket and dealer picking up the first month, (total for me of 35 payments) 12,000 miles per year. Let me know if you are interested in teaming up. This is the best deal i've seen on the board for this package. We can probably make it better if we go together. Thanks
  • nobodyyouknownobodyyouknow Member Posts: 21
    I'm NE of ATL and interested. I'm looking to make a deal within the next two weeks, either before or after the current incentives expire.
  • gaquagaqua Member Posts: 7
    Experts and other buyers out there...

    Please advise if this (week preceding labor day weekend) is the right time to buy an EX-L?

    I only see the Mfr finance incentives and do not see $2000 or $2500 off in lieu of mfr financing that Honda offered earlier.

    Should one wait? Do you think the earlier offers would be back? :confuse:

    Your thoughts Please....
  • nobodyyouknownobodyyouknow Member Posts: 21
    Please advise if this (week preceding labor day weekend) is the right time to buy an EX-L?

    I only see the Mfr finance incentives and do not see $2000 or $2500 off in lieu of mfr financing that Honda offered earlier.

    Should one wait? Do you think the earlier offers would be back?


    The involves reading tea leaves. Personal guess (I'm a potential buyer) is that with the high inventory of odys the incentives will continue. What I think they may do is close up that 1500 for financing deals and the 2500 for cash deals. I hope they'll add another $250 or $500 to the cash deals.

    But I don't expect that they'll simply cancel or substantially reduce the incentives at this stage in the game.
  • liveandletliveliveandletlive Member Posts: 9
    I leave work in downtown around 5:00. I think I could leave at 4:30 and get there by 5:00 but forgot to bring my check book. I'm ready to buy but not in a rush. I don't want to inconvenience you either, let me know any suggestions on how to coordinate wtihout posting personal contact information in a public place.
  • jgzjgz Member Posts: 28
    contact me through gfz2009 at gmail
  • sivakingsivaking Member Posts: 2
    Hi.

    I'm living in Austin, TX. I also have a plan to purchase 08 Odyssey. I'm ready to buy it now. I would like to join your bargain team.
  • crvguy1crvguy1 Member Posts: 6
    I have got 4 quotes for 2008 EX-L in Columbus, OH Area. The Lowest so far is 26,700. I want to wait till i get the offer 25,500 (No Financing) or 26,500 (With Financing.
    Any thoughts?
  • titanmantitanman Member Posts: 5
    Let me know what color and options and i'll try to see if we can get a deal by going together. my email is gobucks43701 at yahoo
  • mplshondadlrmplshondadlr Member Posts: 409
    You do understand that a dealer would LOSE $1000.00 to sell you at that price. I'm talking about after backing out holdback. After EVERYTHING. Does that seem reasonable?
  • crvguy1crvguy1 Member Posts: 6
    ~update

    I have got a quote from a Honda dealer in Columbus , Ohio for 26236.00
    I'am thinking the other dealers will match or drop their price.
  • autopilot2autopilot2 Member Posts: 3
    Hey - I am in western NC and two dealerships told me they would be losing $$ when I told them I wanted to pay $29,500 with the 2.9 pct financing for an '08 EXL-RES.

    Had you used the 2.9 Pct Financing you would have been @ $29,544.

    What dealership in NC are you using?

    Thanks;
  • sneezy2sneezy2 Member Posts: 20
    Here is the link for my sales review on dealership:
    http://www.edmunds.com/dealerships/Texas/Kingwood/SterlingMcCallHonda/fullsales.- 85641.newOld.html

    I only visited one other Honda dealership, just to test drive. (Also visited one Toyota)

    I'm curious how your group deal went? Please keep posted.
  • slickbond007slickbond007 Member Posts: 18
    This is a great price. Which dealership did you purchase from and how big was the buyer group? Thanks.
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