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No more squeaks but it cost me $39.95 plus tax but it was worth it. The installer. stated that all new Hondas have this problem and it takes a "professional" with expertise in this area to correct it. You can't have a guy who repairs exhausts and changes oil to work on your moonroof while reading a general Honda technical bulletin. He further stated, you have to know how the system is installed and work from there.
Oh, I do have some other problems. Due to the re-surfacing of the Henry Hudson Parkway and the terrible roughing up of the road bed, my front end seems to have taken quite a beating. But not the moonroof. Maybe next week I'll come back here screaming, but knock on vinyl, I'm good right now.
anselmo1: What exactly did the moonroof guy do to fix the problem??
What I don't understand is if they encountered the problem in year 1, why the heck did they not address it in subsequent model years? Or worse yet, use the same type of gasket in other models, such as the CL?
So I listened...carefully...sure enough, a squeek!
I guess some people are bothered more than I am by this. So every few months, it comes back.
I take ten minutes and rub the seal down with silicone lube and all is well.
No big deal and it works.
I had made the mistake of paying for the car before it was delivered, a mistake I will never make again. After a couple of days of driving the car, I realized that the driver's seat-back is warped toward a left angle, and is not square and perpendicular to the line of forward travel. In addition, the left edge of the bottom cushion is lower than the right edge. Thus, the seat is warped in such a way that it tends to "roll" me toward the door. Despite my continual effort to use cushions or folded floor mats along the left edge of the seatback, it is impossible to counter the warped angle of the seat, so it is ALWAYS uncomfortable. Without this effort at compensating for the defect, I am in genuine PAIN after about five minutes of driving the car.
I begged the dealership to buy back the car, less depreciation, or to let me trade it on another Accord, and the sales manager wouldn't even discuss it with me. Instead, he accused me of "taking too long to decide on the car I wanted." I finally met with Honda's District Service Manager, who acknowledged that the seat was "crooked", but then told me that as long as the car runs, they could not justify doing anything for me, and I would just have to live with it.
Is this what any of you would call "taking care of a customer'?
I wrote letters, I called Honda of America in Torrance, CA, and met with the service department of a competing dealership here in Tulsa. The answer was always the same: this was a "minor" issue that they didn't want to hear about.
Thus, my first (and only) Honda has turned out to be quite a surprise! I wouldn't wish this on anybody! I hope it saves SOMEBODDY from the grief and humiliation which I was handed.
After all the years of hype and convincing ads about Honda quality, I can only tell you I am still "shell-shocked" by the experience. Toyota, you're loking better all the time.
It sounds as if Honda will not budge which is a shame. I suggest going to an upholstery shop and see if they can correct the situation for you. Most likely they can and you will be able to drive your car comfortably.
I would then take the bill and send it to American Honda and ask for payment. Since they didn't abide by their warranty, you have every right to be reimbursed. I would also send a letter to your state's Attorney General's office and have them investigate the case on your behalf.
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The best state is New York State where the Attorney General's Office will go after any company that's in the wrong. Just ask Phillip Morris, GM and Adelphia communications.
I also cannot understand why you were not covered under the manufacturer's warranty. If it means that much to you which it does, I would hire an attorney to resolve your problem.
A crooked seat ???
resolved in New York. Honda would not stand a chance. It would appear they are very arrogant. I think their seats are too low and very hard. While Toyota is maligned for the same problem in the 97-2000 Camry it still better than the Accord. I've owned both. Honda does a large number of other virtues. Why doesn't the frugal Accord get better than 23mpg around town, I had an 88 Accord that would get 30 easily and 40 on the open road. (6 Camry get's 26 city and 34 open road.
I am pretty sure that all the bugs have been worked out in the new V-6 transmission that will be available to the public in a few weeks.
What are the differences between the two transmissions in question? Did Honda change suppliers when it redesigned its new tranny?
What's your basis for this?
Honda has NOT had a "troublesome transmission" in their V-6 Accords!!
A few problems...yes, like any other car. Problems that are few and far between for the umpteenth time.
What's the difference ? Well, a fifth speed for ont thing. Other than that I don't know at this point.
You know Honda doesn't share any information with anyone regarding failures unless the NHSTA forces the issue. It is the consumer that is left hanging. I should know!
I just bought a 2002 Honda Accord EX V6 and I would like to know what kind of signs and symptoms I should look out for to detect if I have one of these "troublesome" transmission. I only have 700km. on my car and lately, I can hear this "clunk" sound whenever I shift the tranny from park to reverse. This is especially prominent in the morning when I engaged the transmission from P to R. Is this clunking sound normal or is this a sign of defective mechanism in the tranny?
Over time, the clunk gets worse and then you will notice a hesitation between gears in drive. The next step in the scenario is failure. While your car is under warranty, make sure they correct the problem right away. They have seen this problem numerous times and know the symptoms.
cokane: I think the noise is similar since both are mechanical noises Basically gear teeth mashing together.
The clunk sound is not normal on any car car. Especially when the transmission fails at one point over time. The Accord V-6 has had a "history" of this problem from 1998 thru 2002.
Someone said here that the new 5 speed automatic Honda Accord transmission will solve the problem in the V-6. For all Honda Accord owners, I hope it does.
TORRANCE, Calif., May 23, 2002 -- American Honda Motor Co., Inc. today announced a voluntary recall of certain Honda and Acura models to replace an ignition switch which may cause the engine to stall. The recall involves about 1.3 million of certain 1997 to 2000 models of the Honda Accord, Civic, Prelude, CR-V and Odyssey. Also included in the recall are some 1999 Acura TL sedans and certain 1997 to 1999 CL coupes.
The situation is created by electrical contacts within the ignition switch that wear prematurely causing the switch to malfunction. An affected vehicle will likely experience difficulty in starting for a period of time prior to experiencing any engine stall. Normally, the vehicle can be restarted immediately.
Most customers will not experience problems with their ignition switch prior to repair -- less than 3/10ths of one percent of affected vehicles have experienced switch problems.
thanks again-oh remember how long ford fought replacing their thin film ignition problem-lawsuits and the whole bit-this is the first time I ever heard of this problem with honda and they do the recall-very interesting.
Read about all the CL's/Tl's tranny's problems right here under the respective topic.
That was enough for me and the rest is history.
But, I will tell you all something, Honda is well aware of the problem to the point where they did redesign the 2003 Accord transmission in the V-6 and the I-4. As far as asking someone in the auto repair/transmission business about 6th generation model, they will all tell you that since 1998, the Honda V-6 transmission has been problematic. (As compared to first V-6 in the 1995 model). Talk to your Honda repairman the next time you see him on a break and he will give you the "ins" and "outs"!
Also, sometimes when I park in Sun for 5-6 hrs straight, my car cranks but does not start. Found several TSBs about this on NHTSA.
I love the car and its maneuverability and responsiveness, though.
What do you guys think? Any suggestions?
The handling I believe is the result of the "wishbone" suspension which is far superior to the Camry's McPhearson struts.
Wind noise will always be more noticeable in the Accord.
The Camry's transmission shifts a lot smoother than the Accord's. The Camry's engine is also more quiet. (Once again, I believe it is the better insulation).
I haven't really experienced any differences in startup in either car. I do notice though that the Camry idles a lot quieter than the Accord.
Both cars have their respective merits. If you are use to quiet--the Camry is the choice of record. The Honda Accord wins hands down when it comes to handling and visibility.
"a lot"? I can barely even hear my Accord idling, whether I'm standing outside next to it or I'm inside the car. I do agree with you that the Camry is quieter and smoother driving, but doesn't handle as well as the Accord.
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The new paint (PPG) adhered well on this old steel bucket. The body shop had the car for almost four months.
Please if anyone have suggestions or advices as to what may causes this please let me know.
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