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Msred
I've been waiting to see what rebates they would offer. I'm interested in the EX-L with RES. I've had the EX-L with RES and NAV quoted for 33,230. That seemed high, even with the NAV.
Also if you are planning on keeping the car for a number of years, consider getting a 2009 model, which right now has an additional $1250 of dealer incentive savings ... my point about if you are keeping the car for a long time is, in the short run a 2010 will depreciate less, but after 4-5 years, it probably doesn't make a whole heck of a difference in its value, a 2009 vs 2010. My understanding is that the cars are pretty much identical except for a different grille ... maybe a couple other tweaks.
Can anybody suggest me.Thanks!
P.S. my salesman said this 1250 doesn't go away with July
Also spoke to one dealer who gave me a price of $32,970 for EX-L RES....didn't mention the rebate but menioned that he would sell it to me at or below invoice to get the sale....he is off for vacation leaving friday...I'm going to sweat him a little....
BTW- Best quote I've gotten on a 2009 EX-L w/o dvd and w/o nav is $29,885, which does not include doc fee, t&t. Is there more wiggle room to work with here? A lot of dealers are starting to run low on '09's an are trying to convince me to wit for the '10, but they are a little more $$ for the exact same car, IMO.
· 'Clunker' Sales Raise Worry. Car dealers on Wednesday began expressing concern that the government's "cash for clunkers" incentive program could run out of money as soon as the end of August due to strong initial response from consumers. J. McEleney, chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association said he suspects the $1B set aside for the program could run out within a month based on early response. Chrysler Group LLC said its dealers saw a two-year-high in traffic last weekend, though only some one-third of those who came in for the clunkers program had vehicles that qualified.http://sbk.online.wsj.com/article/SB124891744373492335.html#mod=rss_wh- ats_news_us_business
· Federal refunds to dealers tripled on Tuesday, the third day of the cash-for-guzzlers program, as some dealers expressed concern that the program's $1 billion budget would soon be depleted. The U.S. Transportation Department approved $68.9 million in reimbursements as of early Wednesday morning, up from about $17 million the day before, agency spokesman Rae Tyson said in an interview. [Automotive News] http://www.autonews.com/article/20090729/ANA02/907299977/1078
I am also looking for one, but not getting good deal at this time. It seems with CFC, Honda has pulled out their incentives for their minivans.
I'm still fuming that the junior salesperson that took us on our test drive in June said nothing to us about the $2500 rebate. We were still in the looking/curious phase, but could have been enticed with a truly good deal. His idea of a "good deal" was $1000 off sticker. :mad:
Great forum by the way.
-Vehicle life would be up to 130k miles.
-Pay in cash resulting in No Financing costs in either case
-Rate of Return on the money saved up front on used vs. old is 4%
-Property Tax and Insurance was negligible.
NEW: 09 Ody EXL w/Res
- Quoted Price of $29704 (incl. Dest. and Admin)
- Cost Per Mile: $0.2433 (Price/130k miles)
USED: 06-08 Ody EXL w/Res 40,000mi
- 130,000mi - 40,000mi = 90,000 miles X $0.2433 = $20,264
- 3.7 year ROI for $9440 Initial cost diff. of New vs. Used = $2,225
- Equivalent Used Price Target: $20,264+$2,225 = $22,489.29
For one, it was difficult to find a good condition used Ody at the $22.5k price point. In addition when incorporating the other unmeasured factors such as Warranty, having first 40K miles in a new vehicle, knowing vehicle history, etc. the decision became easy to go new opposed to new.
Does this comparison seem logical or am I missing something?
For the Ody-EXL, it has much more space inside. I can sit in any seats without feeling squeezed in any way. It has an eighth-seat, in the middle of the second role, which can be partially removed (becomes a cup holder) or totally removed. It has a floor-storage space in the second row, which is big enough to hold the middle seat if removed partially. The driver and passenger seats in the second row are both auto adjustable, with latches, and can be moved forward. But the middle seat is not for a kid in any sense. Only one seat in the third row has normal latches though--the other two seats each has one latch at the back (not sure how to use them, maybe it's just me). Also, it only has curtains for the second-row seats, but not for the third-row seats. Liked the rear view camra, blue-tooth, and MP3 features. The dealer says there is a new incentive for 2009 models ($1250 off).
For Sienna LXE, it looks much fancier inside with hard-wook like handles and cup-holders, and colorful panels. But an adult will not feel very comfortable sitting in the third row. I am just 5'8'', but my legs cannot even fit there straight. It only has 7 seats, no floor-storage in the second row. Seats all have latches. It has a moon-roof but doen't have a rear DVD (you have to choose between a moon-roof and a DVD or install a DVD on the back of a seat). The dealer says they do not have 09 Sienna any more, and have no incentives for 2010 so far...
I didn't feel much difference in terms of road noise, and bumper suspension.
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Have there been slightly better deals/offers posted then ours... yes - but you can't get hung up on a $100 here or there unless you could absolutely care less about color, options etc... we got the car we wanted for 5000 off MSRP. At the end of the day... not bad.
Great forum BTW. For all the non-posters reading these reviews - I was one of you yesterday. I gained the info and knowledge I needed from all the people who took the time to post and hopefully after you make your deal - you will too.
Something else we're considering - if the C4C gets more funding really soon - is trading the old car in under the program for an EXL. The EX doesn't qualify with the mileage, but the EXL would because it is rated 20 mpg. It seems like it would be about a wash with the $3500 we would get back and the higher price for the EXL. Is that true?
What I really need is the invoice price for the 2010 EX and EXL and some guidance on what would be a good price to pay for either one.
Thanks so much for any feedback.
I received internet quotes from 6 different dealers which ranged from 33,466 to 33,253. I thought those were kind of high based on my research (and then based on this forum after finding it and reading through back posts) so we were holding out. We tried to haggle and countered with 31,000 but most all dealers said the Internet quote was as low as they go. Only one dealer dropped to 32,453 but we still wanted to get the price lower trying to hit the pricing others were getting during the 2500 rebate so we decided to wait. We also started thinking about just waiting for the 2010s which have been rolling into dealers.
My husband received a call from one of the dealers on Wednesday who told us about the new rebate (he said it was $1000). I checked this forum and found others saying 1250 so I emailed our lowest bid and asked if they could meet/or come close to our target price with the new 1250 rebate. This would have put us around 31203. They said the could do it but now we are unable to get in touch with them :mad: .
Last night my husband called the dealer with the second lowest quote (who we wanted to do business with anyway) and mentioned the dealer call/rebate. He was able to drop the price down to 32000 so it looks like that is what we are going to take (we do need a car asap).
Hopefully all works out today...I will post a final price once the deal goes through.
sale Price - $30,346
Document Fee - $151.65
Sales Tax - $2,222.34
New License Plates - $144
Total - $32,863.99
JT