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Recently some SOB "customized" the left side doors while it was parked in front of the house. Scraped and dented it to the tune of $2500. It's in the shop now. We have to pay the $500 deductible because it was a hit and run, insurance covers the rest. %$#%@!
Just for fun I called our dealer, who will lease a 2004 EX-L (no DVD) for a cap cost of $25,000 even, or $1100 below invoice. With $1200 driveoffs, the payment is $300/mo including tax for 24 months on a 12K lease.
Now--the current van to me is damaged goods, but functional as ever. We have $12K in it already and would have another $23K in payments to go. Warranty expires in a year and a half. Terry on the Real World Trade-in Values board thinks it should trade for $21-23 even after the recent asteroid strike. If $23 works, we could be in business. Private retail is not an option--I'm too busy.
The logic of trading in on an 04 goes like this: payment drops by $240 a month, we lose the DVD but so what, if we really like it we can buy it in 2 years for $19700 with a year left on the warranty, if not, adios.
The fallacy is that the total cost to own the 03 will be around $35K; assuming we can get away clean on a trade and start over, the total of our current $12K "investment" (ha!) plus 2 years of cheap lease payments plus the residual plus sales tax is around $41K. And the little ones like the DVD on those occasional road trips.
My question: keep the 03, or trade in for the 04?? (All by itself, the 04 would make all the sense in the world!!) Opinions, please!
The trade-in was a 2003 Mazda Tribute with 26k miles and a dent in the tail for $16.4. Edmunds lists it at about 15.4 trade-in and 16.7 private party.
The salesmen were great--helpful and courteous. The overall experience was excellent with none of the BS back and forth with so-called "managers". I had to tell the finance guy to get off the extended warranty pitch three times before he gave up, but he was great otherwise. I'd definitely recommend these guys to a friend...
Curious . . . what did you get for your '96 T&C? I traded my '96 DGC-LE with 114,000 miles in it this past September for our Ody. I tried to sell it for about 6 weeks and had zero luck. I took $2,700 for it on the trade. Originally paid $25,200 for it in 9/96. OUCH!! Being previously a Toyota owner only, this was major depreciation shock for me.
We have 12,000 miles on our '03 Ody EX-L and really like it. You might pick up the latest Car & Driver magazine for the minivan comparison test if you are still trying to decide between a Sienna and Ody. The old Ody edged out the new Sienna!!
Good luck with your purchase.
I have asked for prices from about 10 dealers, including the Sam's Club representative. The requests were sent this morning. So far, the best offer is the invoice price, including the destination charge, which comes to about 500 below invoice.
Thank you very much!
"Yep - we found 'em out back. Can't believe we lost 'em either!!"
Maybe I'll meet 'n greet, even if it smells funny...
If that's for real...no strings attached, not a "one only" demo or something, you better move FAST!
Two-sided coin my friend.
A quick scan of the Sunday adverts show EXs at ~$25,500 from another local volume dealer. That's more than $1300 off the high-ball price the internet sales rep offered at the other place. Still $25,500 is well above invoice so I'm optimistic on getting lower.
Does it seem to anyone that there are deeper discounts on the EX Ls w/RES or NAVI as opposed to EX w/cloth only?
04 Pilot Ex-L with Nav. $500 over invoice at $30,560 + Tax(3%), Tag($55) and Doc($299)
04 Odyssey Ex-L with Nav. at $800 under invoice at
$27,119 + TT&D.
Both seem like good offers, but I can't decide if I can handle driving Odyssey. It is a $3,400 question.
Is resale on both comparable?
The market will always determine pricing. If a car is hot, in short supply and high demand, it will command a premimum price just like houses do.
NOT a great deal, but using information from this site, I walked in with a detailed offer. They countered, splitting the difference between my offer and their ad published yesterday.
I'll be buying an Ody because my spouse wants it and will be the primary driver. I don't care for minivans at all but having realized it's not my car, I can live with it. After that, I see a pickup or small SUV lurking in the future as my reward for being a good boy.
A $35 doc fee is fine . . . . just never heard of one in Memphis, TN.
This is roughly 500$ under invoice. I don't even think i am getting such a good deal.
People leasing might consider the deal on the EX-RES because they are doing some funny math with a 750$ rebate.
Eptisam
Pretty good lease. Cap cost was almost $1000 under invoice. Traded in a 2003 Ody EX-L RES that had been hit by an errant driver in front of our house. Professsionally repaired but they are NEVER the same. Trade value $23K, helped by loooow miles, but could have sold privately for $25K if I wanted to hassle with it. Payment dropped from $543/mo to $317/mo including tax.
Since we barely drive it, it made sense to dump the injured one and lease the new one as cheap as possible so we have a kid-hauler when we need it. Dealer was Honda World Downey. Good to deal with if you go thru the internet manager, otherwise hold onto your wallet!
I am looking to buy a 2004 Ody EX-l NAV now and living in the SF
bay area. Would you please let me know which dealer you bought your
Ody from in Northern Calofornia?
I searched around and found out the price you got was really a nice
deal.
Thanks.
-steve
warranty for my 2004 EX L RES(has 400 miles) for $1060 from
Pohanka Honda in Salisbury, MD. I did it over the phone. Very professional, prompt and courteous service. I dealt with their finance managers. Called Hondacare and verified
the terms and coverage. No surprises. I highly recommend Pohanka
Honda as they are selling Hondacare almost at cost.
The best deal posted in these boards had always been through Alton Blakely Honda in Kentucky. Their price, no matter which plan you chose, was always invoice + $50. In 2003, for the 7/100000/$0 was $910 ($860 [Invoice] + $50). You can easily find their phone with a Google search.
REMEMBER - you do NOT have to buy the warranty right away. You can purchase it at any time up to one year or 12000 miles.
Good Luck!
2004 Honda Accord EX-L Graphite Pearl
2007 Honda Civic EX - Atomic Blue
2013 Honda Civic LX - Crimson Pearl
Bought it from a high volume dealer via internet. Out of four replies his was the best. Sometimes good deals come straight out. Part of the fun is in looking for that good price. You'll know when to pull the trigger. Good luck.
some extent. I did go through cardirects.com and got three price
quotes from local dealers. They are not even close to the price you
got. The cheapest one is $27,495. So just wonder if you could let
me know which dealer you got your Ody from, or maybe which website
you used to get the price. that would save me a lot of time and
effort. Thanks. -steve
Fezzik -
I agree with mcbski and would also recommend shooting for closer to invoice (around $22,500). I am not certain that you will do a lot better than that though (though you may of course). First, it seems that we are paying a bit more in Minneapolis than elsewhere in the country. For example, if you go to Carsdirect.com and compare prices for MPLS vs Chicago there is a HUGE difference - the carsdirect price for your LX is $23,277 in MPLS and $21,977 in Chicago. I have been shopping for an EX-L here in MPLS for a couple of weeks and found inventories to be very low - I imagine that is part of why we are paying a premium here in MN.
Good Luck!! - Bill
One dealer that gave a lower price went up when we got in, if your near Woodstock, GA don't go near their dealership.
Good luck!
04 Odyssey EX (cloth) including these options:
- wheel locks
- mud flaps
- fenderwell trim
- door edge guards
$25,105 + Tax, Lic, doc fee
Negotiating took 2 days and wasn't much fun, but Honda of Bellevue and Honda of Renton were the easiest to work with and give me the best quotes. These guys didn't BS while Honda of Kirkland was absolutely terrible to deal with.