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it's already an excellent block design (Ford sourced Cosworth and Porsche to design the block), the extra head work done by Mazda allows it to breathe better and more responsive.
anything I missed?
anyone heard of this? do you think i just got duped into not taking the car home? i got $300 over inv and they gave me 8900 for my 01 pro es+1250 owner loyalty. they kept claiming how this is a "loss deal" or whatever because of how much they were giving me for my pro es in this soft used car market. are they trying somehow to get me for getting a supposedly "good deal?"
The new Mazda 6 also offers a higher performance gasoline engine, a 3.0-liter aluminum V-6, optimized for low-friction efficiency and high power and torque output. The 24-valve engine also is equipped with sequential valve timing.
Powered by the 222-PS / 163 kW (219 HP) V-6 with S-VT, the engine achieves its peak horsepower at 6,250 rpm. Torque output peaks at 273 Nm (202 foot-pounds) at 4,500 rpm.
"The new V-6 with sequential valve timing gives Mazda 6 uncompromised power and torque," Saruwatari said. "We believe it is the ideal complement to the refined, fun-to-drive nature of the Mazda 6 chassis."
For maximum fuel efficiency, the new V-6 incorporates friction-fighting features. Roller finger cam followers, with bucket-style tappets, minimize valvetrain friction that could negatively impact fuel efficiency.
The V-6 also takes advantage of the same air cleaner with variable duct and reduced back-pressure exhaust strategies as the four-cylinder engine range.
The aluminum cylinder block is manufactured with iron cylinder liners for durability. Four main-bearing caps and two longitudinal stiffening rails are combined in one girdle casting that is bolted to the cylinder block. This girdle has nodular iron-stiffening inserts surrounded by die-cast aluminum.
A structural cast-aluminum oil pan strengthens the bottom of the block and provides a rigid engine-to-transmission connection.
Cast aluminum alloy cylinder heads feature a pentroof-shaped combustion chamber that provides a 10.0:1 compression ratio. Intake valves are 33.5 mm in diameter and exhaust valves are 28 mm in diameter for excellent breathing properties.
The engine's forged steel crankshaft has nine fully machined counterweights. Connecting rods are sinter-forged for fracture-splitting. Pistons are a lightweight design with a graphite and molybdenum coating that minimizes piston skirt-to-cylinder-wall friction.
A single silent chain - with hydraulic tensioning - drives both camshafts in each cylinder bank. Each tubular steel camshaft is assembled with sintered high-carbon steel lobes.
The intake manifold is a two-piece composite-plastic design lower component that is integrated with the fuel delivery rail.
Twin-spray top-feed injectors are supplied by a returnless fuel system and triggered sequentially in synch with each cylinder's intake valve opening. The fuel pump is located in the fuel tank and computer controlled to deliver a robust range of pressures, depending on demand. A rear electronic module commands the pump and monitors fuel-rail temperature to guard against vaporization; if the fuel is warm enough to verge on vapor formation, output pressure is raised to maintain mass flow at the injectors.
A coil-on-plug ignition system eliminates secondary leads by positioning one coil triggered by the powertrain control module immediately above each spark plug.
"And which Ford models has the Duratech been used in?"
Taurus/Sable, Escape/Tribute, Contour/Mystique, and Lincoln LS/Jaguar S-type, Jaguar X-type.
'02-'03 Japan Car of the Year
Motoring 2003 Car of the Year: Canada
Great Austrian Automobile Award: Austria
Britain's Auto 1: Car of The Year: U.K
Fleet World Magazine: Best Newcomer Award: U.K
What Car Magazine: Car of the Year 2003 (Best Estate Car): U.K
New Car of the Year: Scotland
Semperit Irish Car of the Year: Ireland
Car of 2003 in Czech Republic
Family Car of the Year Sweden
European Car of the Year: 2nd place
Auto Blic magazine: Croatian Auto 1: Croatia
Best Car in Lithuania in 2003
2002 Good Design Award: Japan
2003 RJC Car of the Year: Japan
Japan Car Design Award : Japan
Car & Driver: The 2003 10 Best: USA
Le Moniteur Automobile: Family Car of the Year: Belgium
National Business Review: Car of the year: New Zealand
New Zealand Company Vehicle and Executive Car Magazine: Business Car of the Year: New Zealand The Press: Best Family Car: New Zealand
Sunday Star Times: Best Mid Size Car: New Zealand Australia's Best Car Awards: Best Mid-Size Car Over $25,000: Australia
The Straits Times: Best Medium Family Sedan / Hatchback: Singapore
The Straits Times: Best Large Family Saloon: Singapore
Auto magazine: Car of The Year(chosen by readers): Israel
Auto magazine: Best Premium Compact: Israel
Autoshow magazine: Car of the Year: Turkey
Yediot Aharonot: 2002 Car of the Year(chosen by readers and Y-net surfers): Israel
Mr. Car Magazine: 10 Best Car: Hong Kong
Men's Machines Magazine: 10 Best Car: Hong Kong
Any Car Magazine: 10 Best Car Hong Kong
2003 Slovenian car of the year
Car of the Year 2002 in Macedonia
Driver Magazine: Car of the Year: New Zealand
Saudi Car of the Year (Best Midsize Family Sedan) New Zealand Car of the Year
Autobild Magagine: European Auto1 Award (2nd Place)
Fleet News Magazine: Fleet News Awards 2003 (Best Upper Medium Car): UK
Auto Express: Overall winner of the Auto Express Ultimate Car Reliability Survey 2003: UK
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What amazes me about the 6 is that it really is a WORLD car, appreciated for its styling, practicality, handling, reliability, comfort, value and ultimately what draws us to it: FUN TO DRIVE - something it's cited for in EVERY review.
Cheers!
Dinu
24k mi on the pro es w/ the following: 5spd, premium pkg (moonroof, spoiler, abs, side airbags). blue book value for a trade in "good" condition was right around $9300.
It's a bit of a hassle but I can assure you that your dealer is following the rules and they are not doing anything fishy....It's nice to see you have a dealer who did the right thing and not slip you the MZ6 without the sticker being applied.
This is what I would want:
Mazda6i, nothing else. No options, just a plain ole Mazda6i. I'll take care of the rims.
Plus you got the 1250 loyalty off, so you can somewhat legitimately say you bought the car for $950.00 less than invoice.
Congratulations!
For anyone that has checked out the forums at mazdaatenza.com (GREAT forums there!), there is a wealth of info for owners and non-owners (like myself) alike. After seeing the pics of other owners cars, it's convinced me to go with the lip spoiler ^_^
I didn't qualify for the grad rebate, but with the $1000 Mazda loyalty and $250 Mazda credit rebate, the base price for my 6i was $15,238. With 0% for 60 months, and using the $1250 rebates as the down payment, I drove off the lot for $17,076 with no money down.
And this is definitely a brand new 6i MT, glacier silver, with 9 miles on the car - and most of those were from the two test drives I gave it! It was a great deal that I couldn't pass up, even though I wasn't planning to buy a car on my first visit to the dealer.
I hope it's not a problemt to post about this sale - but if you visit Oak Tree Mazda's website, you can see their newspaper ad for yourself. Considering I drove off the lot for less than invoice, I'm pretty damn happy. Zoom zoom!
I have heard rumors that Armor All is actually bad for a car's dash, etc. and that in reality it can cause the surfaces to crack after repeated use. I read a board from several years ago that talked about this, but I couldn't find any current info on whether or not the company has changed the ingredients or fixed whatever the problem was. Anybody out there know anything about this?
Also, is using something like this even necessary? I thought the idea was to protect the dash from fading and help keep the materials in good condition. What's the truth?
Thanks in advance.
So, if your not using a Mazda dealership for your routine maintance..... double/triple check the installation of the oil cartridge and O-ring.
There have been a few people who changed the oil in their MZ6's here, I wonder if they encountered this. And was the "special" tool mentioned in the manual needed to make sure everything is done right?
I knew that the Duratec was used in the Taurus/Sable models, but I didn't know that it was used in any Lincoln or Jaguar vehicles. That surprised me.
It sounds like it has a timing chain instead of a belt. Or just the Mazda version of it? Either way, I guess that's an advantage, right?
It seems like the Duratec is a very good engine and is generally underrated. I never heard much discussion about it, good or bad. With the modifications that Mazda has made to it, it should prove to be an awesome machine. Actually, I'm counting on that! LOL
The wealth of knowledge on this board never ceases to amaze me ...
Jag's 3.0 is more complicated than Mazda's mod, but it is expected, to have better NVH (smoother/quieter) to go with more power (240HP).
Does the 6-cyl 3.0L engine use a timing belt or a chain? (The Duratec spec post implied that the engine uses a timing chain, but it would be nice to know for certain.)
Thanks.
Protege gone to the dealer for $8700, 2001 ES 29,000 miles, no options.
Mazda6i manual with premium package, $200 below invoice plus $1250 rebate and 0% for 60 months. The payment is cheaper than the Protege's was.
Tee hee hee
newcar, great job on your deal too. how much down if you don't mind me asking?
The next MazdaSpeed-tuned car, the Miata, begins production in December in Japan and arrives in U.S. showrooms soon after that, as early as January. It will carry a Japanese turbocharger underhood.
Stick to it
Mazda officials tell us they’re sold out of 2003 Mazda 6s with V6 engines and five-speed manual transmissions. That’s because of a bigger-than-anticipated rush for the highest-powered 6 with a manual and lesser interest in automatic four-cylinders. Who says sticks are dead? The 2004 V6-powered 6 with five-speed manual goes on sale in July, without much of a price hike over 2003.
You guys are so lucky in the US. Mazda Canada still has 4.9/48mths and 5.9/60mths financing on all Mazda6 models (:
Dinu
PS: What does the Sport package include in the US? In Canada it's 17" alloys, leather-wrapped steering wheel, hand-brake and shift knob.
Of course the sports also have ground effects.
I was behind a white Mz6 yesterday. First white I've seen without the sport package. Two things:
are the tail pipes smaller in Non sport? I wash my car all the time, so I wipe the pipes too, this white Mz6 seems to have smaller (but still two) pipes.
Also, I don't like the back look as much without the effects. You see too much of the underside of the car.
Just my opinion.
Exploiting the opening I gave him a quick run down of the 6 and how great it was. Took him to the website. Showed him the photos. Couldn't get the 360s to come up (lacking the QT plugin cuz I have the privileges of a peon here at work). He asked about price and I showed him the Edmunds TMV function. I showed him the incentives and that he was eligible for the loyalty cash. I emphasized that the car was new from the ground up and was sportier than the competition.
So there is one more person out there who knows.
fowler3
Congrats Todd! Enjoy your new ride!
Doubt I will be buying a 6 anytime soon. Still owe $5K on my '01 Pro LX. Payment is $183 month. Think what it would take to equal that on a 6i?
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat- _code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=06279828
People just have to drive it...if Mazda dealers were smart they would have a test Accord and Camry sitting there so people could compare them right away, then they would definitely be convinced. Obviously there is risk in that, but those people probably would not have bought anyway. At least it would show a huge level of confidence in their product.
http://www.inetdvd.com/images/other/rx8offload.wmv
I have been lurking around this thread for quite a while. I will probably be in the market for a new car next year. I went to the Rev It Up in Dallas. Really love the MZ6. But I also like the RX-8 from what I have read so far, even I have not driven one. I am tore between the 2. On the practical side MZ6(hatch) is better, but my heart tells me I "need" a RX-8. Anybody has the same struggle?
Me: "a Mazda 6"
Them: "a Mazda 626?"
Me: "No, Mazda 6"
Them: "yeah, a 626"
Me: "No, Mazda 6"
Them: <blank stare>
Them: "a Mazda 6?"
Me: "Yes, the new Mazda 6. You know - the zoom zoom commercials?"
Them: <blank stare>
Them: "Oh - well it SOUNDS cool"
Me: <rolls eyes>
:-D