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  • choe13choe13 Member Posts: 348
    cheers to that. and i'm glad for once there isn't bickering at one another like little kids. we are all adults here u know?
  • edmund2460edmund2460 Member Posts: 293
    About the doors, I was not referring to the sound. (BTW I drive a PRO and it closes with a nice solid sound that as you say, reassures you about the rest of the car). I was looking for something unusual about the effort required to close it and I didn't see anything unusual in this regard. About the specs, I am surprised about the Camry's braking numbers. My wife drove an XLE and complained that she felt like the car was never going to stop. I am an inherent sceptic, I know it's possible for one's subjectivity to cloud one's opinions of a car. So I like to see objective numbers. I've seen reviews talking about the composure of the 6s in taking corners and others commenting on the awesome stopping power. And then I see the R&T numbers... Is there a C&D comparison due soon?
  • edmund2460edmund2460 Member Posts: 293
    <<<As for the braking, the camrys v6 might be better in end result, but during the process of the stopping, it doesn't feel as good as the 6s>>

    If it takes 6 feet more to stop (I don't remember the difference in Cam/Maz in the review), depending on the circumstances you might not feel anything at all (lol)
  • rotarykidrotarykid Member Posts: 191
    Mazda should have introduced all three models at the same time. If anyone even slightly interested in any one of the three models walked into a dealership, I'm sure they would leave with one of them. The choices would be exciting and fresh, and the sedan shopper might check out the hatch, or the hatch shopper might end up in a wagon. Mazda has poorly marketed its products from day one,(how many people even knew there was a four wheel drive minivan in the 80's-90's?) and the 6 is no exception.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    Markjenn: **Nissan was bold three years ago and look how they've been transformed. If they had tried the long/slow approach, they'd be history
    now.**

    I thought the new Altima was introduced in the fall of 2001 as the 2002 and the Z-coupe was introduced this year. That isn't all at once.

    edmund2460: They may have designed the door latches to close easily without slamming them. A good car door will close and latch with little effort. Many used cars have bad doors because their owners slammed them shut and got the latches out of adjustment. That's one thing I hate about some passengers -- they are door-slammers because their car doors are crap.

    On some cars the "thunk" is produced by placing a small rubber bumper in the doorjam which softens the closing; rather than engineering a real solid "thunk". Much cheaper. Remove the bumper plug and it will sound lousy.

    **I still haven't got an answer regarding the heated seats, if they are only suppose to heat for 2-3 minutes then shut off?**

    rodlcw: Somebody answered your question a while back. The heated seats are controled by a thermostat. It has to be a certain low temperature
    in the cabin before it will come on. The switch is On/Off only.

    rotarykid: **Mazda should have introduced all three models at the same time.**

    I think we covered that earlier today.

    This isn't 1992 when Honda introduced their new Civic as a sedan in three trim levels, a coupe in two trim levels, and a hatchback. Honda didn't owe $5-billion and wasn't in Mazda's situation. In fact, how many car companies have ever been able to introduce that many models and trim levels all at once? No American manufacturers have. BMW always starts with a sedan and so does Mercedes-Benz and look how rich those companies are.

    Because you are anxious to buy the hatchback doesn't mean they can rush it into production. And I doubt they will be *history* in December. The 6 is giving Mazda a clean sheet to start over and I think they are going to do very well given a little time. Look at the number of posts on this forum, we are not Mazda's main buyer-base, yet in a few weeks they have grown to over 9000. With a slow economy and tens of thousands of layoffs many buyers are cautious.

    I agree about the SUVs are on the way out, especially if there is a war in Iraq and the situation in Venezuala isn't resolved. Like the Oil Embago of 1974, fuel-economical cars will sell at premium prices. That was the year that put Honda on the map as a major car company, buyers had to wait up to six months to get a car and pay dearly for it.

    Gas prices went from 39-cents a gallon to $1.00 a gallon overnight. Now, they could go from $1.65 a gallon to $2.85 or higher, depending upon reserves. Rationing almost came in as the embargo ended, and they still have millions of coupons in storage just in case they may be needed again.

    With gas rationing, car owners are given a limited amount each month. How you use it may also be restricted and speed limits severely lowered. A SUV owner might as well be driving a tank.

    Gas rationing during WW II wasn't to save fuel, it was to save rubber. The only source of rubber was from trees in the South Pacific which the Japanese had captured. I remember my parents saving coupons for a short trip and the highway speed limit was 45mph.

    fowler3
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    had to check out the 6 again again tonight...man i love this car. I love the new 9/3 too. Boy it would be a tough decision.....still like the ALtima and maxima (2003 and the 2004 is ok too).

    anyways, even tho i love the mazda6 a whole bunch, i'd like to be able to check out the hatch and wagon as well.

    my big question is.....what's up with the chrome gas cap.....optional yes, but still uuuuggggglllyyy.

    second question....why is the yellow color so pale? It doesn't seem as intense as on the protege 5? Are they different yellows?
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    **my big question is.....what's up with the chrome gas cap.....optional yes, but still uuuuggggglllyyy.**

    I think I wouldn't get the chrome gas cap (I didn't know they offered one). They had a few on Miatas and it isn't real chrome. If cracked, it flakes off easily. Under it is black plastic. Chrome is plated on copper.

    **second question....why is the yellow color so pale? It doesn't seem as intense as on the protege 5? Are they different yellows?**

    It is lighter, yes. Not as effective as on the Protegé5. Looks a little sickly. Makes one wonder why they didn't use the paints (colors) from the Protegé and the MPV, which are much nicer.

    fowler3
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    "these type of accord buyers won't give it a chance let alone a measily test drive to realize this. This is why its frustrating that people are narrowminded. That is all i'm trying to prove , by my bickering here at honda accord vs mazda 6"

    This is what bothers me the most too - that people don't give this car a chance. They just buy a Honda b/c it has an "H" on the hood and ignore many other cars from different makers.

    I almost did that too - but luckily dropped by a Mazda dealership just to say I looked at EVERYTHING on my price range and ended up with a PRO in less than 2 weeks.

    Dinu
  • stretchsjestretchsje Member Posts: 700
    Geez, this forum has really taken off. It's hard to keep up!

    Yellow:
    The yellow M6 is the only yellow car I ever considered buying- let alone even liked- despite the racer persona of owning a yellow car. It's an awesome yellow, and the '6 looks good in bright.

    Manumatic:
    The manumatic '6 defeats the purpose. You lose the efficiency of a manual- it's hard, if not impossible to get better mileage than the computer in auto mode. There is a poing about being able to hold a gear in a turn, but in reality the manumatic is no different than shifting an auto into "2" or "L". I did this on my Celica for years, and while it was fun, it certainly didn't have any of the real benefits of a manual. I drive in 95% city traffic (DC Beltway), but am proud to say my '6 is a manual. Finally!

    Side note: a 6i with a true manual will beat the 6s manumatic in a sprint to 60mph- overcoming a 60hp deficit. :-)

    Hatchback:
    In regards to the hatchback- if the '6 hadn't been well received here, we wouldn't be getting it at all! Though, in all honesty, the car is so good, I'd have been surprised if it weren't built. Mazda buyers have always wanted something different- Miller Cycle, Rotary, why not a hatch? For it's introduction, Mazda has been trying to streamline production- hence the restrictive options available from the factory. Why add a hatch to that confusion? Enough people here complained as is! Sure, I'd of rather had one, but I'm not about to claim I know better than Mazda's marketing department.

    BTW, I'll state again in this post- those option limitations are bogus, you can get anything as a PIO. I almost bought a 6i MT w/ Premium, Sport, and ABS- something the factory doesn't make.

    Break-In
    I have to state this again: wait until the engine is broken in! I don't recall Toyotas or Hondas changing like this, but the sound/smoothness has been completely transformed after 500 miles. Although much quieter, it sound more beefy. The clutch and breaks either softened up, or I'm used to them. Everything feels good. 100 miles left in my factory recommended break-in, and at least 500 more before I start to drive it like I stole it.

    Car Stereo:
    Regarding the stereo: the Bose option apparently has different size speakers than the standard. I've already ordered 4 5x7" speakers, but am now getting conflicting information on whether or not this was correct. I had been told 5x7's would fit, and a simple peek at the speaker grill cutouts seemed to confirm it. Can anyone confirm? I may take the door panels off today. The Bose option is, apparently, 6 1/2" components (1 1/2" tweeter) in the front with a 5 1/4" midbass in the back (and the subwoofer, of course). I'll keep an updated log in the Mazda6 Owner's Club forums.

    Fun Driving:
    I've pushed the car a couple of times after 400 miles just to get it out of my system. What I found is the car will oversteer in a turn rather than understeer, just like a RWD car. It's fun using the quick steering to straighten out. This car likes throttle in turns- usually this'll produce a semi-controlled skid rather than under/over steer. Actually, you really have to try to get this car to understeer- unlike any FWD car I've ever driven. Maybe I'm being too conservative because of the engine break-in, so I'll report more once it's done.
  • cubescubes Member Posts: 29
    I don't think you can just use another person's PIN number. These deals are looked over @ Ford/Mazda to make sure they are legit. At least that is what I was told when I used X-Plan for my '02 Mountaineer. I wasn't eligible when I bought my MilleniaS a couple of years ago.

    Anyway, I had two PINS and I let my son (we have the same name) use one for his new Ford truck and the dealer called a couple of days later and said system wouldn't accept the PIN. My son already had the truck! The reason was that the SS#'s didn't match. We gave them my SS number and the system took the deal. What's a bit funny about it is that he did his own financing through Ford Motor Credit.

    That's my story. I'm sure some of the car people/dealers might be able to shed some additional light on the subject.
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    you have discovered that Honda's are like a religion with some people...so much that when their tranny's were failing..the consumers figured it was their fault, not honda's...haha

    oh well....keep trying.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    so when the 626 owners had transmission problems who did they blame?
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    I don't know if anyone has stated this before, but Americans have a very different perception of hatchback cars than do Europeans. Hatchbacks appeared in volume in the US on European and Japanese economy cars such as the Honda Civic, VW Rabbit and Renault Le Car, and the competitors to those cars from the US manufacturers such as the Ford Pinto, Chevy Vega and Dodge Omni. So, aside from those vehicles where hatchbacks are a necessary design element (many vans, SUVs and wagons), US buyers view hatchbacks as downscale and econocar oriented. Many of the currently popular midsized Japanese cars either originated as a compact hatchback (Accord) or included a hatchback in their original model lineup (Camry, 626), but as the US market demonstrated a preference toward 4-door sedans in that market segment, the hatchbacks ultimately disappeared.

    As I understand it, hatchback versions in the Mazda 6/Accord market in Europe are considered to be upscale, but the hatchback can't escape its econocar "roots" in the US.
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    If they knew anything, they would blame Ford. It was a problematic transmission and it was only the auto/4 cyl. I would never buy an automatic, let alone one with problems. I know what you're thinking too: The 6 also has some Ford influence, so why would anyone buy one? Not to play down the 626 tranny problem, but the almighty Honda has also had transmission issues, in much more expensive cars. Luckily, the 6 doesn't have that transmission and the Duratec isn't problematic. I'd feel more comfortable with a Mazda6 than with an Acura TL.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    "so when the 626 owners had transmission problems who did they blame?"
    God! LOL
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Last time I checked Mazda was offering no sort of extended warranty on the 626 4 cylinders that go through transmissions like an Accord does it's Michelin tires. The almighty Honda proved why it's almighty Honda by offering an extended warranty covering the transmission up to 100,000 miles even though CR still has the defect rate at less than 2% and the affected number was not enough to generate a NHTSA investigation. But I'm sure CR is paid off by Honda just as every other auto publication that verifies Honda is one of the best automatic manufacturers on the planet. They produce large quantities of vehicles that are usually at the top of their class in safety, efficiency, and reliability. As a result they also have some of the higher resale values in the market with a few exceptions.

    The TL has many more attributes other than it's transmission to keep it ahead of the 6. It is one of the better-selling entry-lux cars. Selling even better than the new G35 even though it's in the last year of it's production cycle. Not to mention the TL will slap the Mazda upside the head so hard it will think it's an Amati. :)
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    Let's all bow down to the omnipotent Honda-god or risk being struck down by it's might power! LOL

    (Yes, I know I'm going to Honda-hell, but so are you if you're laughing.)
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    What will Honda do next, maybe a clone!! Rael are you reading this? Call it the Accord EVE.

    fowler3
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Better pack our stuff my friend - I'm guilty of laughing as charged!

    Dinu
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    Infidel! Now you are going to Honda-hell for sure for mocking the Great One. Another soul has fallen prey to the evil Mazda-satan, with his empty promises of a more "fun to drive" car! Save us!
  • voochvooch Member Posts: 92
    Send me to hell and give me the econo 6s model as well!

    I don't give a crap what the American public thinks about Hatchbacks. I've owned 1 car that wasn't a hatchback and it was a Mazda. The rest of the close-minded American public has the choice of buying the sedan or wagon. If it keeps Mazda in business, great!

    Also, no matter what the TL can do(slapping Mazda or whatever), the 6 can do 2 things which it and most other competition cannot, period. The 6 offers a hatch version and a V6 MT. If you are looking for either of those 2 options in a 4-door(crazily enough I am), you're sol if you wanted to buy from the Almighty or most other manufacturers for that matter. I'm glad at least Mazda was thinking about me and the few others since Honda and everyone else is not.

    Granted, we all know Honda chose not to put a MT in the sedan for who knows or cares why. The fact is they didn't. I don't care why nor do I care to hear anyone elses theory why either(since we've been through it already) because it doesn't matter, its not there. They didn't put it in the TL either as far as I know.

    So no matter how you put it, Mazda does MT V6 sedans/hatches infinitely better than Honda/Acura.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    My local dealer just called to say he has a 6i-MT ready for me to test drive today. I'm about to fail prey to the wicked temptations of the evil Mazda-satan!

    Adam
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    oh your going to buy it!!!! One drive will do it.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    "I live in Denver but will be making a quick "on a whim" trip to Detroit tonight to visit the NAIAS tomorrow. The best part - my rental car while I'm there should be a Mazda6! I might have to take the long way to the hotel."

    Let's hope not. 6's as rentals already???

    Honda god...
    Honda is in this position by building quality vehicle that last a long time. Call it a religion and ridicule it all you want but truth Honda is still growing and still building some of (if not the) the highest quality longest lasting cars available today in the highest quantity. There will probably be more 2003 Hondas built this year than there will be total Mazda6 production in it's model run over the next few years. These will turn out to be very reliable used cars. Even if 10% of those Hondas are crap there will be 360,000 satisfied 2003 Honda-followers for years to come. That goes without saying for the last 4 years and the next 4. You can't overcome those kinds of numbers.

    Like when we see an Accord on the street. "There goes an Accord like no other...Except for that one...Oh and that one....Wait there's one too". Maybe we ought to pay Slug Accord or something.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    Rich,
    I have another question for you. You said that according to the info you have, I can get the 6i-MT with only Premium, ABS/TCS and SAB/SAC. The equivalent in a 6s-MT would just have the SAB/SAC package, as Premium and ABS/TCS are already on the 6s. Is it possible to order the 6s-MT with SAB/SAC as the only option?
    Thanks.
  • mazda6smazda6s Member Posts: 1,901
    "There will probably be more 2003 Hondas built this year than there will be total Mazda6 production in it's model run over the next few years. These will turn out to be very reliable used cars. Even if 10% of those Hondas are crap there will be 360,000 satisfied 2003 Honda-followers for years to come. That goes without saying for the last 4 years and the next 4. You can't overcome those kinds of numbers."
    Huh? You're saying 10% crap cars is good?
  • 204meca204meca Member Posts: 369
    I have been following this thread from the start. The M6 hatch sounds wonderful. Unfortunately, I could not wait for it's someday arrival. So I bought one of the few 4 door hatches available in the U.S.

    Dare I say it - a Hyundai Elantra GT! While the Elantra certainly ain't an M6 it is a well appointed, has decent performance and comfort for very little money. I really like it! I hope that U.S. consumers will discover that hatchbacks are not just cheap cars, but rather cars with wonderful versatility.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    What I'm saying is that there will be at least 360,000 quality used Hondas even if they had poor quality control and built 10% bad ones. Since they don't, that only means there will be MORE quality used Hondas on the market every year for the next (and last) 4 years.

    Strange you would seize on that one phrase in that last post when the more important part of it was that someone already says there are Mazda 6 rental cars available. That's not good news.
  • voochvooch Member Posts: 92
    "Honda is in this position by building quality vehicle that last a long time. Call it a religion and ridicule it all you want but truth Honda is still growing and still building some of (if not the) the highest quality longest lasting cars available today in the highest quantity. There will probably be more 2003 Hondas built this year than there will be total Mazda6 production in it's model run over the next few years. These will turn out to be very reliable used cars. Even if 10% of those Hondas are crap there will be 360,000 satisfied 2003 Honda-followers for years to come. That goes without saying for the last 4 years and the next 4. You can't overcome those kinds of numbers."

    I don't think anyone can argue that Honda builds a ton of cars and that they are pretty darn good quality cars at that. That really isn't an issue. To me, the only thing that means is peace of mind... if Honda can build a ton of good cars then the owner of a Honda can reasonably say they'll have a good experience (if they are only worried about reliability). My point is that if you can only have peace of mind if you buy a Honda you are horribly ignorant. Honda is not the only manufacturer of good automobiles. Now for the person who wants to get from point A to point B comfortably and reliably, Honda is perfect and a no brainer. Everyone else has choices.

    Mazda6: I think the point that he was trying to make is that even if they did build 10% crap cars, there are still tons of happy Honda owners because there are so many damn Hondas. Not that they build 10% crap cars. If they did that would be bad.

    For anyone that says, "but lots of people like and buy Honda, they make so many good vehicles and magazines are great so Honda must be the best for me", the only way the American public could drive my purchasing decision is if they were purchasing my next vehicle for me. Until then, I'll make my own decisions, educated or not.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Member Posts: 1,203
    So one year of Accord production may be more than than total 6 production during it's current life cycle? To me, that is a GOOD thing. I don't want to drive what everyone else is driving. BTW, anyone see the MT comparison between the 6, Altima, and Jetta? Despite the Altima's muscle car power, they seemed to favor the overall balance the 6 provides. And the 6's acceleration numbers were pretty impressive as well. And looks wise, well the 6 has it all over the Alitma(and certain over the Accord, Camry, Galant, etc). I've never really been a Mazda fan before, but the new 6 has really caught my eye. Something VERY few Japanese branded cars have ever done. Price wise, the 6 seems to offer alot of performance and comfort for the $$.
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    that combo is not available, right now.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Member Posts: 1,203
    I am eligible for Ford S-plan pricing due to my company doing alot of fleet business with Ford. Anyone purchased a 6 on the S-plan? How close(either above or below) invoice is the price? We are also eligible for GM's supplier discount and another car I'm considering(Saab 9-3) is selling several hundred below invoice at the discount pricing. Also, anyone word if Mazda is going to offer XM or Sirius radio on the 6? Dealers said no, but I don't always trust their word. I have an aftermarket XM unit which I can use, but would love to have it integrated into the audio system(a la factory installed).
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    I wonder why the Honda people feel so compelled to post on the Mazda6 board? They seem to post more on the mazda6 board than the honda board...I guess if I just paid all that money for a car that looks like a kia (compare the kia rio nose and the accord nose) I would try to justify it to the mazda people too...haha

    I checked the protege board and barely a peep about the civic...checked the MPV board and not much about the honda minivan, checked the Tribute board and little about the CRV....If the mazda6 was as bad as some honda people imply, they wouldnt bother to post here...so the mazda6 is clearly shaking up the market segment.
  • choe13choe13 Member Posts: 348
    your definitely the trouble maker, now that i see. Why are you here, giving the mazda 6 a bad name in a mazda 6 forum??? I mean boy are you in the wrong neighborhood. Are you dying for attention?? please resort your sort of negative thinking in heavenly honda forum, or accord vs, Mazda 6. Unless you got some sort of Mazda 6 Envy, than thats ok =]
  • choe13choe13 Member Posts: 348
    Hey do u guys know if mazda is planning to build a new mazda 929 or should i say Mazda 9 =]

    and i also heard mazda is going to have a new luxury division. What is it going to be called? anybody know?. These luxury mazda cars, will definetely cause bmw some big headaches.
  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    I have had heated seats in the last few cars that I have leased, and they all stayed on for more than 3 minutes. More like until you decide to turn them off.
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    you might have something....I heard from mazda they are working on a car to be placed above the 6...but I didnt get a timeframe or any other details...but certainly nothing this year or next. maybe for the 2005 or 2006 model year.

    Nothing about a new division. They planned that idea once before and they decided to get the Mazda house in order first. We are now seeing the fruits of that decision...mpv,6,speed and rx-8. the future looks good for mazda.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    "I wonder why the Honda people feel so compelled to post on the Mazda6 board?"

    Probably because the Mazda 6 is finally actually out there, rather than being just talked about. Pretty much like the Mazda 6 fans who nearly overwhelmed the Accord boards when it first became available. To make statements like your overused, unoriginal "been there, heard that, over and over again" Kia Rio comment.
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    Every time I come in here you are doing back flips defending the utilitarian, generic appeal of the Accord to the main stream, pre-retirement aged public. Now don't get me wrong, this is ok. But honestly, you need to relax. There is nothing wrong will owning a mainstream, efficient, everyday automobile that sells large volumes. There are plenty of those in todays markets. The Accord is almost like, well, you know, Apple Pie and Chevrolet.

    Accept the fact that it's ok to own an Accord. We will still respect you in the morning.

    Mark. : )
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    I wonder why the Honda people feel so compelled to post on the Mazda6 board?"

    Because PERFECTION is BORING! They come here for lively debate and to see if the grass really is GREENER on the other side.

    glideslopes: The Accord is almost like, well, you know, Apple Pie and Chevrolet.

    THAT's the problem! Most places, their apple pie doesn't have enough spice. Chevrolets don't have it at all. ;) BLAND!

    This afternoon at an intersection, a car made a left turn too sharply, cutting the corner and almost sideswiping my front bumper. As the driver passed by I thought, 'That damned Regal driver better watch it!' In my rearview mirror I caught a last glimps of the car and realized it was a 2003 Accord. Sheesh! Sloppy steering makes bad drivers.

    fowler3
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    More Mazda people bring up the Accord than vice versa. If you go to the Accord room there is no chance to talk about the 6 because it's "I just bought mine" "me too" "picking mine up tonight" get mine tomorrow" "had mine for a week" ... so far only a handful of people have actually bought a 6. Want another indicator of the 6's low vital signs ... I saw a 2 Muranos on the road tonight but have yet to see a 6. Saw tons of Accords so far .. was even at a redlight with 2 beside me and 1 behind me. While that's a negative to owner's who don't want to see their car on every street it's also a negative for Mazda who is in the business of selling cars to make money. So far it looks like they would do better selling sand in the desert. Oh but I forgot ... someone will be buying them .. rental car companies. That's good for resale value.
  • choe13choe13 Member Posts: 348
    You know what they say after all, great drivers drive alike =]. Its been good talking to you all. About opinions, specifics and facts, about this car, even though we had our differences at times.

    This is one of the greatest cars made, and i hope you all get lucky to get a hand on one, and if so enjoy the longterm ultimate driving experience.

    Mazda 6 "emotion in motion" mentality well justifies its ability to ultimately unite the driver and the road. Its fearlessness once in motion cleary proving "BLOOD GUTS AND GLORY" to its driver.

    farewell
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    Yup, I see the posts over there. "Picking her up tonight, heading on over to the Food Lion with the kids after."

    "Had mine for a week, really like the color. Got the one everyone else has."

    " Tried to find a manual EX, but gave up."

    You and gee35 are too funny.

    Back to football,
    Mark.
  • myphantom6myphantom6 Member Posts: 20
    I felt it was appropriate to change my name to fit my new image when I'm behind the wheels of my ride. I'm going to try to make a last appeal or comment between the Accord and the Mazda6 (and by the way, I thought "Mazda6 vs. Accord" was in another forum?).

    Anyway, here's go. I've been a Honda owner for the past nine years, and I absolutely loved the dependability. However nine years later it's time for a change. There seems to be a new kid on the block and his (or her, if you prefer) name is "Mazda6". Now, when I'm driving down the road, I don't believe anyone (at least for the next few months), will be able to say, "I saw a car just like yours over at..." or "did I see you...". Like most people in this forum, I think it's quite obvious that our cars are (for the time being) one of a kind. I can't begin to tell you how many Altima's I see on the way to my work, church, or play. The numbers of 2003 Accord's, while I haven't seen to many of them (at least not more than 5 a day) is beginning to grow, and I'm sure that by the end of the year, you'll start seeing almost one on every corner or intersection (you can't go anywhere without seeing, or parking NEXT to at least ONE Accord or Civc).

    To me, driving a car that's brand new; 1st of it's kind; and the only one in my subdivision; is a joy and feeling I can't begin to explain. Plus, add in the fact that most car reviews are comparing my vehicle to the Audi, and BMW, just makes my head swell that much more (even if most people, specifically those Audi and BMW's owner don't think it's a fair comparison).

    So let's talk about facts! It's a fact that I, (I undelined) think I, look good when I'm behind the wheels of my Mazda6. It's a fact, that most people who drive the Mazda6 now, have not had a lot of encounters with another 6's beside them on the road. And it's a fact that, at least for the time being, we (6's owners) are not going to know how dependable our cars will be in the future. But does any one "really" know how dependable YOUR car will be in the future? Maybe you will be in the group that gets a lemon this year.

    But for now, at this moment, I going to charish this feeling of being unique, having a "phantom" car that's fun to drive and feels, oh... oh... so good! One that no one else has seen, and talking to people who feel the same way I do. Enjoy Mazda owners, and for you Accord enthusiast, "don't be a player, hater".

    Zoom, zoom, zoom!
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    A manual transmission EX may be hard to find but so is a loaded 6i 5-speed especially considering the 6's are supposed to be sports sedans. When we test drove the 6 there was one 6i sport package manual and one 6i base manual. They had no loaded 6s 5-speeds only 1 base 5-speed. We found plenty of Accord EX 5-speeds with cloth .. finding the EX-L 5-speed coupe in a color we wanted was the kicker.

    We can talk about the 6 all day. I like the 6 and had they had exactly what we wanted, when we wanted it, at a price we wanted to pay we probably would've bought it. However, as an Accord owner if someone makes an untrue statement or an exaggeration about the Accord I'll pipe up. Just as you all would if I said the 6 was slow, ugly, and a piece of crap.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Because I like the Mazda 6 too. I plan on buying one (or a Mazda3 if they look as similar as the spy pics show). But I also like the Accord having owned 6 of them. As I have noted before the Accord is the most often compared car in here. And if you want to start a comparison, I'm all for it. But I won't bring it up first.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    "Mazda 6 "emotion in motion" mentality well justifies its ability to ultimately unite the driver and the road. Its fearlessness once in motion cleary proving "BLOOD GUTS AND GLORY" to its driver."

    Geez... talk about buying the sales pitch lock, stock and barrel... the 6 is a great car, but let's keep the breathless hyperbole under control.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    But maybe we LIKE breathless hyperbole. Beats the breathful hyperbole every time!
  • voochvooch Member Posts: 92
    Go back to your dungeon, the Accord forum, please talon, along with your sidekick, venus. You two have to be the most underpaid Honda spokesmen/women.

    Pot calling the kettle black, sheez!
  • voochvooch Member Posts: 92
    "A manual transmission EX may be hard to find but so is a loaded 6i 5-speed especially considering the 6's are supposed to be sports sedans."

    Well lets just think about that. There will be more than 4 times the amount of Accords built than Mazda 6's. So, lets just assume that they make, percentage wise, the same amount of manuals. Hmm, that'd be 4 times the MT Accords than 6's. Crazy crazy.

    Also, if you are going to use that line then you must admit that the 6 and the Accord are sorta in 2 different leagues - the Accord being a pure family mobile, the 6 being a "supposed" (by you anonymous) sports sedan. So either it is or it isn't... it seems it is if you (Honda ppl) need to make a point AGAINST it, it isn't when you compare them as family sedans. What the heck do you believe? Whatever it is, its always pro-Almighty, thats for sure.
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