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Have to check the owner's manual, but I don't think that Honda recommends actual tire chains due to wheel well clearance issues. I believe they specify "cable chains" instead.
I live in CT, and while we don't get same type of powder you do, we get much wetter snow and tend more towards ice. Ody with snow tires is fine most times, but if it's really bad and we absolutely have to get out, the Ody stays home and we take Ford F350 4x4 truck instead.
I have the front windows with solar guard and the rear windows came with privacy glass. On hot days neither did a thing to keep the sun from beating on my daughter while strapped into her carseat or myself while driving. The privacy glass had my baby sweating bullets on sunny days and I just couldn't stand watching her suffer like that for one more second. So, I went and had my front windows tinted with a 20% black film and limo tint all the way around the rest of the van. Since then, sunny days are not an issue. My leather seats are never hot, and my baby can now sit comfortably in her carseat while watching Finding Nemo.
I don't use them very often but I do carry chains in my minivan. Got 'em at the thrift store for $5 in a nice plastic box with the size stamped on the side, and did a test fit one summer day.
Check your manual too - I use mine on the fronts, but that's not universally recommended by any means. Ask Willard :-)
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NAV and RES: What you can do is buy the NAV model, and then buy the VHS (or DVD) system from Honda as an accessory and have them install it. Or, you could buy the RES model and buy an aftermarket NAV system- about $1000 for a Garmin eMap. The Odyssey will be redesigned for 2005- if you want to wait until summer 2004 and get the new model you can, but the current one is a great van that has some good deals running around right now.
I just got my 2004 Ody yesterday and will be having this installed asap.
Another friend of mine had it put on her Acura about 2 years ago and it still looks great.
As for over the 'net, shipping items like that is a hassle as most are considered hazardous and require special packaging and labeling for UPS/FedEx to carry them.
If you purchase one, you have the remainder of Honda's warranty. But I wonder if you can purchase an extended warranty (despite the vehicle having been titled to a commercial company before you purchased it used).
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There is no specific mention of the Odyssey, but the civic and Accord are mentioned.
I'll be calling my local Honda dealership to find out what they use when doing an oil change.
Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems
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Honda Odyssey Owners: Problems & Solutions
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I already drink Coke, so avoiding Pepsi isn't an issue :-)
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Plus, very large bill on 105000 maintenance.
Will switch to Toyota in a heartbeat as we have an older truck that runs and runs and runs with NO problems. Research on MPV shows very low price in comparison, if willing to give up minimal space. IT is assembled in Japan as was our Toyota- whether this means greater reliability (?) Also very sporty drive.
Prob. with Sienna is it has that floaty non-responsive feel v. Odyssey which handles quite well. Also, very $$$. LEaning towards MPV for value, reliability, and sportiness.
Myself, I've got an 02 Ody now with 41,000 miles on it and the only issue ever on it was a faulty sensor on, of all things, the transmission. Here I am driving a couple hours to my favorite uncle's funeral and the D indicator on the tranny starts blinking. Book says "get to a dealer as soon as you can."
Well, we had to drop it after the funeral but the dealer up there rented us a loaner van (a darn Windstall but I wasn't too picky at the time) and quickly diagnosed and replaced the sensor. Total cost zero including the rental. I have an extended warranty on it but they didn't know this before doing all that for free at about 38,000 miles.
We'll see about long term - I'll keep you posted - but I'll say this - Honda's service has been fine (this is my fourth Honda - first Ody). I had a head gasket, tranny, timing chain cover gasket and some other did things done on my old Windstall at pretty low mileage but past warranty and Ford treated me like I had some horrible disease!
I agree on the service, always very good and willing to try to get warranty coverage (my rear drums were covered at 88,000 miles and I have NO extended warranty). Our previous Accords were flawless well into 100,000's so in comparison the Odyssey is a disappointment- but, relative to Ford, Chrysler, and GM- the best of the worst. What can you do, cars are necessary money pits.
Good luck with yours. I found some tech memos on this site that provided proof to dealer that the problem has been ack. by Honda.
I was thinking around $19,500.
(I would tell you what the name of the other web site is, but the rules do not allow it. I can say nothing, zip, NADA).
We do appraisals here too - link
Finally, you can ask the pros over in Real-World Trade-In Values what they think.
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I see no reason to use a motor oil recommended by or made by Honda. I do see a reason to use some of the other Honda fluids that they recommend, and some of them are actually a requirement, such as antifreeze. You just want to be sure the oil carries the proper rating on the can from that institute that rates the motor oils. I would think that the Honda manual points out what that would be. You want to use the right viscosity rating also.
My Honda dealer uses Valvoline. I have gone to their part syntactic oil however, as it is only $10 more, at the dealer. I don't know if it is worth it or not, but I figured for $10 extra I would use it. Their 100% syntactic is an extra $60 at the dealer.
I have to wonder about buying autos, that were rentals. I would think with so many drivers, of all types, and figuring it was not their car, that it would get a lot of extra wear and tear. So 20,000 miles might be actually equal to a lot more, in normal use.
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.....click on research, automotive, one of the two categories, then minivan........ Odyssey wins both....
steering wheel controls just yet. TLK 2 U LDR.
Also am thinking about getting leather. I do have dogs (40 lbs and under) that come in the car with us sometimes. Anyone take dogs in their leather equipped car? Does the leather get scratched or torn from dog nails? Also are we going to be hot and sticky from leather in summer? It sure looks nicer than the cloth seats but am wondering what the drawbacks might be.
One more question - has anyone added an EC mirror to the van in place of the regular rearview mirror?
I had no complaints about the Windstar (sold it to a friend), but the Ody is a much better vehicle overall. Neither had leather, so cannot help you there.
BTW, I have an '02 Outback also - saw you over there a day or two ago??
Steve
BTW, if this message has out of place words in it, I apologize, I think I have some sort of hostile software, the machine keeps entering words like someone is remotely typing on my pc. Wierd and can't figure out how to stop it!
I found the Ford's suspension to wallow too much for my taste, although the benefit was a very smooth ride. We had a 3 week ownership overlap between the F & H, so could easily draw conclusions back to back. The Honda is much more a drivers "car", with good grip on corners & less body roll. Naturally the tradeoff is you feel (and hear) more. We drive some pretty dicy back roads, and my wife had a big broad smile after "Shaving off several minutes from Hopewell to Poughquag". A sports car? No... But not a penalty box on wheels either. Turning radius is tigher than on the other two vans (maybe by 2 feet or so...), and the brakes are good. I had actually expected them to be a little bit better considering 4 wheel disks, but never felt that they let me down. Again in relative terms - better than the other two.
This doesn't apply to you, but I have dedicated winter tires on rims for my cars.... No vehicle works well in snow & ice with all season tires.
You cannot compare it to the Subaru Outback - they are completely different classes of vehicle, serving different market needs. Which is why we have both in our family! I drive a base Outback wagon (4cyl auto), and like it very much. Before that I had two Corolla wagons, Camry wagon, and an older Maxima. I test drove a Passat, Highlander & a few other car & car based small SUV's before buying the OBW.
The Subi is my nasty weather 'ace in the hole', but is also enjoyable to drive on good roads. But when it comes to loading up the family, taking the dog, and all our stuff, the Ody is the tool of choice.
Unfortunately, in my area, neither the Subaru or Honda dealer's service depts have sterling reputations. Already had problems with the Subi shop, but luckly have not had much need to visit Honda.
Let me know if I can help you more.
Steve
A used car that has hauled dogs around is always a problem to sell. I would definatly put down a blanket or something at the very least.
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Peggy