Honda Odyssey 1999 - 2004

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  • whimsywhimsy Member Posts: 1
    The transmission just failed on my early 2002 Odyssey with 67k. How did you get your replaced without any parts charge?
  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    I went to the local dealer (limped there) and explained my case, even the part about the previous dealer servicing the car. (The place that last serviced it, Gary Force Honda of Bowling Green, KY did not refill the transmission fluid after draining the fluid out) Somehow the service write-up guy said that Honda would take care of the parts, and all I had to do was pay to have them put it in, which was $600. The dealership also sent me home in a rental car, paid for by somebody other than myself.
  • rsd1100rsd1100 Member Posts: 1
    Hello I was wondering if anyone is having the same problem that I have with my 2002 odyssey? Every time when I first drive the car (vehicle cold or sits for an hour or more) I get a front end vibration then after driving for a few miles It slowly goes away. I brought the car to the dealer several times and they can't find anything wrong. I replced the tires, brakes, rotors, and 2 wheel alignments in 6 months and it still vibrates. So I was wondering if anyone is having the same problem or had the same with their odyssey. Thanks in advance for any info Rob.....
  • odysseyaccordodysseyaccord Member Posts: 24
    Wow, no posts for a while--I guess that proves all the Odysseys are running with no problems! Have a nice day.
  • rduelrduel Member Posts: 39
    In light rain the other day the CEL and TCS lights came on simultaneously, with the CEL staying on, and the TCS on intermittently. I have a 00 Ody with 102K miles, just after my 100K extended warranty. I see some have said their dealers diagnosis was plugged EGR valve. Is this a concensous with others with those two lights coming on, and what was the repair cost?
  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    after the small problems that creeped up between the 70,000 mile and 85,000 mile point, my Odyssey is running perfectly now. :)
  • connief1connief1 Member Posts: 8
    I left an interior light on in my van the other night, locked the doors and forgot. Yesterday, the battery was dead. When my husband tried to jumpstart it, as soon as he tried to attach the last clamp, the car alarm started (lights flashing, horn blaring). We jumpstarted the van anyway, and we couldn't get the alarm to stop. Everytime we try to jumpstart this happens. Help!
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    depending upon how deeply discharged the battery is, using the alternator to "recharge it" is not advised. You should remove it and use an external charger.

    Can't help you on the alarm issue.
  • odysseyaccordodysseyaccord Member Posts: 24
    I'm assuming this is a factory alarm...?

    The alarm system is probably designed to go off if someone opens the hood while the vehicle is just sitting, in case someone tries to steal parts.

    I would try keeping the keys in the ignition (perhaps in "accessory" mode before opening the hood and connecting the cables.

    I had my battery drain once (kids left all the interior lights on), and the alarm did not go off when I jump started the car-- had keys in the ignition.

    '03 Ody EX
  • connief1connief1 Member Posts: 8
    It is the factory alarm. The alarm didn't go off when we opened the hood...it sounded when the last clamp was attached to the battery.
  • odysseyaccordodysseyaccord Member Posts: 24
    Of course the alarm does not go off when you open the hood--your battery is dead, hence your alarm system is not working. Remember the alarm is powered by your battery.

    And when you connect power to the battery, the alarm system has power then and realizes the hood is open (with no key in the ignition).
  • connief1connief1 Member Posts: 8
    I forgot to mention in my last post that the key WAS in the ignition when I went outside to "help" my husband. We called the Honda dealership and he said to disconnect the battery for about 5 minutes, put the key into the 2nd position (as I believe you said earlier) and try. My husband tried twice, no luck, just loud noise! What do we try now?
  • odysseyaccordodysseyaccord Member Posts: 24
    wait, you still haven't started the car?
  • 1999odyssey1999odyssey Member Posts: 1
    Maybe someone can help me with my problem. When the car is not running and someone uses the sliding doors more then once or leaves them open, the battery will be drained (brand new battery) and the car will have to be jump started. The german car dealer can not find any electrical problems (we're stationed here). Did anyone experience this problem?
  • odysseyhunterodysseyhunter Member Posts: 8
    Here is the situation. My wife is sold on buying an 02-04 odyssey, she'd buy a new one however can't afford it. I think I've read every report given by people whom own an 02-04 Odyssey on Edmunds.com. From what I see the Odyssey is plagued with problems. My wife argues that Consumer Reports says the Odyssey has no problems and is a best buy, and that Consumer Reports is and "independent" research company, with no bias. The Odyssey doesn't seem to get the high mpg the manufactuar says it would, tranny problems, rear brake problems, tailgate issues and service depts, that are clueless. Also I drove an 03' yesterday and thought it to have excessive rattling noise from inside. I know that there are those whom have had no problems with the Odyssey and love it. However it seems to me the negative points out way the good on this vehicle. I don't want to buy the Odyssey and have it fall apart or nickle and dime me to poverty. My wife will not look at any other vehicle. We have a 1997 Honda Civic, with 110K and havn't so much as a new exhaust 2 weeks ago, the car is rock solid. Is the Odyssey a wise purchase? and what other options in a vehicle have you exlpored? thanks for your help.
  • connief1connief1 Member Posts: 8
    Sorry for delay in answering. Yes, we got the van started (and were able to turn the alarm OFF) with the advice of a friend. When jump starting the van, if the alarm sounds when you connect the final battery clamp, disconnect all clamps, LOCK THE DOORS ON THE VAN, and reconnect the clamps to the battery. When the alarm sounds, just click your clicker to unlock the van, so that it "senses" that this is not a breakin. You can then proceed to start the car. Don't know why the Honda dealership didn't know this...surely this is not the first time they have had this question.
  • connief1connief1 Member Posts: 8
    One thing you have to remember is that (in my opinion) most people come to a car forum to find a solution for a problem, wouldn't you agree? Therefore, there must be a TON of people out there who love their Odysseys who would never (or rarely) post on a forum. In spite of my recent frustration with jump starting my van, I love my Odyssey. We looked at the Mazda MPV and the Honda Odyssey, and Consumer Reports does give it glowing reports. I now have around 76,000 miles on my van and plan to drive it into the ground. Just remember if you get one...DON'T LEAVE ANY INTERIOR LIGHTS ON OR YOUR BATTERY WILL GO DEAD!
  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    Ok. Here's the story on the Odyssey:

    I think that certain Odysseys had more issues than others. Amongst the ones that I think had more problems than others would be the first ones off the assembly linen after the MMC (Late 2001 production) and the first ones off of the Lincoln, AL assembly line. (2003 maybe?)

    Regarding the high MPG, I have gotten ABOVE the EPA estimates in my Odyssey quite a few times crusing down the freeway on cruise control. In the fuel economy area, the Odyssey is pretty good compared with some other alternatives for carting around 7 people. (Suburban, Excursion, etc)

    The Odyssey won't nickle and dime you into poverty- sure, there may be problems, but in my case, once they're fixed the van is very solid.

    On my Odyssey I've had the transmission replaced, the SRS sensor replaced, and the fuel tank seal replaced. (whatever that is :) ) and now it's solid.
  • camerausercamerauser Member Posts: 31
    "On my Odyssey I've had the transmission replaced, the SRS sensor replaced, and the fuel tank seal replaced. (whatever that is ) and now it's solid."
    Sorry to hear of those problems. I have not had those problems with Ford or Chrysler. I have an 2002 Odyssey. If I did not own one already, I would be quite sceptical about their reliability. As it is, I am losing confidence in the Odyssey the more I hear from friends and acquaintances. Sometimes they say that they too have had to replace the transmission (some had to pay) and pay to fix the sliding doors. I have had a number of not so big things go wrong and my dealer gives me bad service too.
  • sc00bssc00bs Member Posts: 87
    2002: An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the Evaporative Emissions Bypass Solenoid. Failure of the Evaporative Emissions Bypass Solenoid will cause the check engine light to illuminate. The cost to replace the Evaporative Emissions Bypass Solenoid is estimated at $52.52 for parts and $32.50 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.
    An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the third gear clutch in the Automatic Transmission. When the Automatic Transmission is replaced with a remanufactured Automatic Transmission, Honda recommends the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) be replaced to improve the durability of the Automatic Transmission. The cost to repair the Automatic Transmission is estimated at $2,400.00 for a remanufactured Automatic Transmission and $572.00 for labor. The cost to replace the PCM is estimated at $500.00 for parts and $32.50 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax. An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the optional Power Sliding Door. The cost to repair the Power Sliding Door is estimated at $233.50 for parts and $227.50 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.
    2003: An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the third gear clutch in the Automatic Transmission. When the Automatic Transmission is replaced with a remanufactured Automatic Transmission, Honda recommends the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) be replaced to improve the durability of the Automatic Transmission. The cost to repair the Automatic Transmission is estimated at $2,400.00 for a remanufactured Automatic Transmission and $572.00 for labor. The cost to replace the PCM is estimated at $500.00 for parts and $32.50 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the optional Power Sliding Door. The cost to repair the Power Sliding Door is estimated at $233.50 for parts and $227.50 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.
  • sc00bssc00bs Member Posts: 87
    You: there must be a TON of people out there who love their Odysseys who would never (or rarely) post on a forum

    Me: I disagree. While most people would come looking for answers to their problems if there are a lot of people posting problems it would be resonable to assume that the car has a lot of problems.

    The 95-04 problem forum has over 6,000 posts.
    The Sienna for 03 and older has 3541
    The MPV for all years is 4389
    The G.Cravan for all years 3938
  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    2002: An occasional problem on this vehicle is failure of the Evaporative Emissions Bypass Solenoid. Failure of the Evaporative Emissions Bypass Solenoid will cause the check engine light to illuminate. The cost to replace the Evaporative Emissions Bypass Solenoid is estimated at $52.52 for parts and $32.50 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any applicable sales tax.

    Speaking of which- I had this replaced too I think when my Odyssey failed the state of Tennessee emissions check. You have to pass to renew your plates and the van took the test 3 times and finally passed on the 3rd time.
  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    That's why my next minivan will be a Sienna :)
  • ClairesClaires Member Posts: 1,219
    Hi, Edsofaru, and welcome!

    I've moved your post to a discussion where it'll be more at home and receive more feedback:

    Honda Odyssey Owners: Problems & Solutions:(1995-2004 Models), post #6369

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  • fsqfsq Member Posts: 2
    I am in the same boat. We just looked at a 2004 Odyssey EXL with 11K miles. One owner car and they claim they've not had any issues. The lady also said she never received a recall notice from Honda. It looks like all the posts with transmission failures and replacements were older year models such as 1999-2002. The car is in perfect condition but my only concern is the tranny issue. But for the price I am getting it for, it might be worth going for it. Plus, there's over a year left in the 3/36K warranty. Does anyone know what Honda charges for an extended warranty?
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    There is a whole thread dedicated to Honda Odyssey warranties:
    link Warranty Thread

    My advice is to ensure that you get a genuine Honda Care warranty and shop around for quotes. I would expect you would be able to get one for about 1K. That is very low miles for an 04, you should jump on it!
  • fsqfsq Member Posts: 2
    Thanks. I agree, for $20K (price is right), it should be a safe bet.
  • odysseyhunterodysseyhunter Member Posts: 8
    Ok, well I caved. We'll purchase a 02' EXL 38K miles, for $16,200.00. Haven't signed anything yet, however I've driven many and this one seems very solid. Something strange though, the third row is missing all three head rests. The head rests are expensive, the Honda dealer is $141.00 for one. Thats just crazy, so what does anyone think?
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    Compare prices for Item #9 in the following diagrams:
    The EXL:
    http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&cat- cgry1=Odyssey&catcgry2=2002&catcgry3=5DR+EXL+LEATHER&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=REA- R+SEAT

    and the LX:
    http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&cat- cgry1=Odyssey&catcgry2=2002&catcgry3=5DR+LX+6&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=REAR+SEAT
  • dzlpwr7dzlpwr7 Member Posts: 3
    I own a 99 Odyssey LX and it has the same problem. I purchased it with 58,xxx miles and during the test drive with the salesman I made mention to him that this vibration must be fixed so the dealer threw in a set of Goodyear Weatherhandler LS. This seemed to make an improvement but considering the wear that was on the old set it sure couldn't have made the problem worse. After several thousand miles and several trips to the dealer I finally went and put on a set of Michelin Hydroedge which was even more improvement but a slight vibration was still present. I had the tires and wheels road force balanced which simulates actual driving and the problem was almost non existant. The Hydroedge tires are directional and can only be rotated from front to back and visversa on the same side. After 35,xxx miles I noticed the rear end was slightly out of alignment so I had a four wheel aligment done along with dismounting the tires and remounted them with the backside facing out and run on the other side so as to even out the slight wear caused from misalignment. Now the vibration has returned just as you described. I may try having them road forced balanced again. I wonder if the problem might be partly due to the type of lubricant Honda uses in the wheel bearings or carrier bearings in the drive shafts as the problem seems to go away as things warm up.
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    I have an '02 EX that should break the 60k mark next week. At 35k the tranny had pretty much chewed up 2nd gear, and was replaced. So far, that is the only warranty repair (knock on wood). Original brakes. OEM Michelin Symmetry tires are pretty much done (although about 20k of that is on my snow tires). I had to take apart the tailgate to put the lock back together (annoying but not tragic). The door logic sometimes trips up. It can be a bit fussy, but I have yet to need to pull the fuse to get it back into sync. Some wind noise & door creaking, but an occasional wipedown with Shin Etsu grease usually does the trick. I took the 7yr/100k/$0 deductible Honda plan for insurance, and would like to part company with the van before the plan expires. I just don't trust anything with this much complexity past that point.

    Past Vans:

    '00 Ford Windstar SE (2 year lease): Tranny replaced around 10k miles. Front rotor and pads replaced after picking up a rock (could happen to any vehicle). Needed work on drivers side power slider to make it close reliably. Power seat died twice (switch problems that burned out motors). Decent vehicle overall.

    '97 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport (3 yr lease): Steering rack failed, front left caliper seized up destroying rotor, all doors (manual sliders) needed adjustments more than once, multiple evap emissions leaks resulting in 6-7 dealer trips, tranny slipped and was going west when we gave it back. Again, decent vehicle overall.

    Bottom line - Honda more reliable of the three, and more fun to drive / easier to live with on a daily basis. No vehicle is perfect.

    Steve
  • connief1connief1 Member Posts: 8
    I hope you enjoy it as much as I have enjoyed mine!
  • epplereppler Member Posts: 2
    Within the last month, our '99 Odyssey has suddenly quit (engine just shuts off) on three different occasions. Two were at very low speed (less than 5 mph) and one at 25-35 mph. This had never happened before in about 120,000 miles. We are the only owners. All three times, we were able to restart right away, except the last time it died twice before I could get going again. The dealer checked it out on computer and said there is no error code showing and they can't do anything unless they can see it happening. Any ideas or prior experience out there?
  • connief1connief1 Member Posts: 8
    Years ago I had a Honda Accord (manual transmission) and it shut off on me several times while idling. The guy at the Honda dealership reset the idle to a higher rpm. Don't know if this is your problem, since yours shut off at 25-35 mph.
  • cwalticwalti Member Posts: 185
    I set the cruise control of my 1999 Ody EX at a 125 mph behind Las Vegas coming from Scotty's Castle into LV. How much faster do you want to go? Where is the factory cut out? Granted, rolling at 125 mph+ is a breeze in the Ody, but what did you have in mind? ...burning up the tranny? :-)

    BTW: ...after all the tranny bashing, who has the most miles on an original '99 -> '01 tranny? My Ody has been nothing but bliss!!! I love the V6 and the smooth drivetrain... at 75+K miles...
  • cwalticwalti Member Posts: 185
    ...do you plan on using the 3rd row for grown ups? Kids are too short to need the head rests. Mine have been stashed for seven years without EVER having been put in place...
  • tomloritomlori Member Posts: 1
    How do you get the bolt off the crack shaft pulley without breaking and having to have the dealer replace the timing belt? is it left or right hand thread
  • mavmommavmom Member Posts: 1
    Because we rarely use the back seat, I removed the back headrests because the affected my visibility. However, I stowed them in the side packets in the back so that they would never be "lost." I am guessing that whomever owned your van took them out of the vehicle and "forgot" to put them back in there before turning the vehicle in.
  • doublesharpdoublesharp Member Posts: 32
    I recently acquired an 01 Odyssey. It has new 225/60/16 Michelin snow tires mounted on the factory EX rims . I've been offered a great deal on a set of Honda Pilot EX wheels with Goodyear Integrity tires. Size is 235/70/16.

    Will Pilot wheels fit an Odyssey (both 5 lug) and has anyone used a tire this large? I did a search and found many use 235/60/16 but found no mention of 235/70/16. Vehicle is used as around town work van and a little speedometer error is acceptable. Thanks.
  • hayneldanhayneldan Member Posts: 657
    The existing tires ,225/60/16 are 26.6 inches tall and 8 1/2 inches wide. The Pilot tires are 29 inches tall and only 5.5 inches wide. Confirm at http://www.bigcustomwheels.com/rt_specs.jsp
  • doublesharpdoublesharp Member Posts: 32
    That's a neat link. Thanks. I think the tires will be too tall for the Ody and that I'd better pass.
  • danh3danh3 Member Posts: 1
    I have 2002 Odyessey. I only get cold air (ac is on) when the climate control is turned all the way to the cold position. if i turn the smallest amount from that position the air is not cold. The rear ac works fine.

    Does anyone have any idea what caused this to happen?

    Thanks in advanced!
  • cwalticwalti Member Posts: 185
    ...faulty rotary switch. If you are just a bit crafty you can replace this yourself. It sounds as if the straight through max. cold works, but everything going through a gradated thermo controller may have an open loop... BTW, do you have an LX or the EX?
  • donvan11donvan11 Member Posts: 2
    I own a 2000 Odyssey with 110,000 miles which I purchased new. It has been a good vehicle with only one problem, the check engine light. On a half dozen occasions it has been to dealers, had all the tests run and they can find no problem. The gas cap is always tightened, but that is the only thing that they can suggest could be the problem. This is my 6th Honda and I have never had this problem. Any suggestions?
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    The Malfunction Indicator Light (CEL) comes on to alert you to the fact that the OBDII system has logged an error code. It also takes a 'snapshot' of the status of about a dozen critical sensors. These include RPM, throttle position, water and air temps, engine load, etc.

    Depending on the type of fault, the CEL might stay on forever, or for as short as the next 4 engine start cycles. Regardless, the most recent error code and snapshot data should remain in storage for 40 more restarts, or until cleared by a scanner instruction or a battery disconnect. So either you are waiting too long before bringing it in for them to check and the data is lost, or they are reading out valid data but not telling you what they found.

    You mentioned gas cap. Did they say it failed a system pressure/vacuum test, or was that just a guess? Get them to tell you the code and conditions, then maybe we can take a stab at what is up.

    Steve
  • donvan11donvan11 Member Posts: 2
    The dealer scanned and found code P1456 evap leak. They claimed that it was the gas cap which they tightened and they performed the evap leak test and found no leaks.
    They performed mechanical tests and all solenoids operated normally. This is the same that I have been told at several dealers.
  • inboxnewsinboxnews Member Posts: 2
    Honda Motor Company said on Wednesday it would recall and repair a combined 561,594 units of the Odyssey, CR-V and Step Wgn models globally to fix a faulty ignition switch... http://www.inboxnews.com/story/436/
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    That recall doesn't affect the 99-04 Odyssey. It affects the gen 1 - the one before this Odyssey.
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Unfortunately, this is a pretty common problem - all cars. I tripped this about a dozen times on my 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan when it was young, until I got mad enough to make them start replacing every component in the vapor recovery system. Eventually they found something with a hairline crack, IIRC, that would leak just enough to intermittantly fail the self-test. It is the kind of problem that can drive mechanic and owner nuts trying to diagnose and fix.

    Steve
  • checkin2checkin2 Member Posts: 6
    I was lucky enough to be able to buy one of the first '99 Ody's in our area(12/98). It's becoming a tad old, but no real problems yet that weren't warranty covered. The group back then was fun, interesting and informative. Where are youze all...Marjoe? Anyone? Were you all chased off? :mad: :cry:
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