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Suzuki Aerio Wagon



  • evenstevenevensteven Posts: 8
    Does anyone know if the 2.0L Aerio engine will fit in a Suzuki Esteem? I just bought a 2002 Aerio engine and tranny. I am going to try to stick it in my 99 GLX.
    It will be awsome if it works. The 2.0L looks almost exactly like the 1.8L so I am guessing it will work. I called Suzuki and the could not tell me. I also called the corporate people and they said I would have to call the factory in Japan. If it does fit I will be selling my 1.6L which runs like new with 72,000 miles on it. I had my manual tranmission go out on me. I found out how expensive it was for the transmission and thought (screw it, Ill just get a whole new engine).
  • ca770ca770 Posts: 16
    Thank you so much evensteven, I just got my car back today after 4 days in the dealership. They said the engine started normally each time and all of the readings were normal. However, they suggested me to use medium grade gas instead of premium. I did turn the ignition to the on position without turning it over for about 10 seconds before I started it, but it still choked. About losing pressure, the ground effect (long plastic piece) on the passenger side was pulled off in order to do a little bit of body work. In stead of using the factory plastic screw a person in the body shop drilled an inch long metal screw in the rear passenger side near the bottom of the car inorder to secure the ground effect piece. I asked a few people if there is a chance that he pouched a hole in the gas tank or the pressure line. What do you think?
  • evenstevenevensteven Posts: 8
    Hmmm.. Well, I dont think they punched a hole in it or you would probably see gas dripping down. I had a similar problem on my car once and found that it was a leaking injector seal. It only cost $2.00 to fix.
  • ca770ca770 Posts: 16
    How can I test to see if it is a leak in the fuel injector?
  • caquilhacaquilha Posts: 1
    I love my lSuzuki Aerio 2003, but the remote control key does not work even after replacing the battery for a new one. Any idea on how to solve the problem?
  • stolguystolguy Posts: 12
    You should have been issued two keys by the dealer. Try both of
    them to figure whether its the sender or the car. What to do then?
    -not a clue. 03 SX driver with no probs except some more exhaust
    shield rattling.
  • HankrHankr Posts: 100
    Roof Rack
    I don't have the mountain bike add-on (I have the ski rack), but the basic roof rack (Mont Blanc) is easy-on / easy-off and sturdy.

    2003 SX 5-Spd; consistantly 30 - 33 MPG. I drive fairly gently, and live in a rural area so spend a lot of time in 4th and 5th gears.

    One of my remotes went, and a new battery did not help. Suzuki replaced it under the 3/36K warranty. Your '03 may still be within warranty.
  • merksmerks Posts: 2
    Thank you Hank. I am planning on ordering the roof rack next month. I appreciate your feedback.
  • stolguystolguy Posts: 12
    Considering that auto transmissions have improved to the point that they are more
    reliable than standards, why would anyone want to wiggle all those parts around
    to move through traffic? Grow up. I have a 62 beetle (drove it today) and a
    29 Tudor Ford (50 miles since fresh overhaul) but those guys had no alternative.
    Autos are great. Even the hiPo sports cars are better with them now.
    Besides, you don't have to juggle with that cuppa coffee in traffic.
  • muffin_manmuffin_man Posts: 865
    "Considering that auto transmissions have improved to the point that they are more
    reliable than standards, why would anyone want to wiggle all those parts around
    to move through traffic?"

    If you don't get it, you don't get it. (and automatics are _not_ more reliable than manuals)
  • chrisducatichrisducati Posts: 394
    It should work. You will need the ECU for the 2.0. The Aerio is an Esteem with a different body on it... Same chassis. The manual gearbox in the Esteem/Aerio is known world wide as a poor unit. Engines how ever are a strong point. Suzuki makes very long life engines. I would buy an automatic if I were buying a Suzuki. And I hate Automatics. Suzuki uses Asian-Warner auto boxes. Which also supplies Toyota. among others. With routine fluid flushes these automatics will last 200+ thousand miles.
  • :D :P ;) How often should the AT be flushed?
  • nicksimonnicksimon Posts: 6
    Is this a problematic car? i really need to know if this car is worth buying because my current car is on its way out. i am looking for something new and that gives you a lot for your money. is the aerio a good choice. i am only 20 and have a limited budget. i cant afford to have to repair this thing constantly.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I honestly wouldn't get one, especially if you are on a budget. Gas mileage is low and the bumper-to-bumper warranty is short. My previous experience with an Aerio SX was poor and didn't lead me to believe it would be troublefree in the long run. Dealers never have parts for the car so its always a waiting game, especially if something breaks and needs repaired under warranty. I personally would direct your attention to the Hyundai Elantra. Better mileage, better warranty, and a very good track record for being solidly built and reliable. Not to mention an excellent value with rebates and high feature content. It's the perfect cheap reliable car for someone on a tight budget. Another good choice would be a Mitsubishi Lancer ES.
  • stolguystolguy Posts: 12
    50,000 miles might be a good interval, although this is dependent on
    factors such as hard usage, high air temps, city/highway miles.
    The first time you may want to do any internal oil screen involved
    also. -After that, do only the oil, and at a longer interval if the color
    stays good.
  • ca770ca770 Posts: 16
    Nicksimon, I suggest you go ahead get an Aerio SX. I looked at both Hyundai Elantra and Kia Rio/Optima, they are not impressive at all. I do agree that Korean cars are catching up, but they still have a long way to go. People may think that Suzukis are not as good as Toyotas or Hondas, but it did survive 52 years (1953-2005) in the Japanese market and are still going strong, like their Wagon R, best selling vehicle of 2004 in Japan. The Aerio has problems here or there, but nothing serious. My experience with the dealership is fairly good. lngtonge18 is right, they don't have parts in stock. Normaly took them anywhere between 2 to 7 days to get it. Meanwhile, since it is under warranty, you get a loaner car for free. To me, it is transportation, so track record is not important. :shades:
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I beg to differ. Suzuki has tradionally been at the bottom of quality reviews in the US. Their cars are not known for quality here. The cars they are known for in Japan don't make it here. Hard data backs up the reason why people think they aren't in the same class as Honda/Toyota. Hyundai, on the other hand, recently beat Honda and tied with Toyota as having the least problems per 100 new vehicles. Kia still needs some improvement, but once all of its original designs are replaced with Hyundai clones, they will be high up the scale as well. People need to accept that the Koreans have already made it and aren't well behind like so many people like to cling to. They have definitely surpassed Suzuki.

    What about the Aerio makes it feel substantially higher quality to you compared to Korean made cars? The Aerio's engine is loud and very unrefined (it shakes noticeably at idle and the noise it makes when revving is not pleasant). The doors close with a tinny sound effect and the door panels buzz to the tune of music. The manual tranny has a poor record for durability. The brakes were known for clunking and the warranty "fix" didn't work on my car. I waited for months for a part to fix the loose fog lamps. I never did get it and the dealer never called me. I actively called them but they always said the part was back-ordered. Could of been a bad dealer, but Suzuki dealers aren't known for good service and parts are truly hard to come by. I will say the 05 Aerio's interior is a huge improvement in looks and quality but overall, the Aerio is a below average choice in a very crowded segment and its sales reflect this.
  • Cool, I didnt know anyone replied to me. I have the ECU from the 2.0L but the wiring harness is different. I have the wiring harness for the engine but how would I hook things up to the dash and other things? Do you think I might be able to use the 1.8L ECU? What would happen if I tried that? Thanks
  • symphony1symphony1 Posts: 1
    The shifter in my 05 Aerio is a little too slushy for my liking. Is anyone aware of any aftermarket short-throw shifters made for this car?

  • davidd5davidd5 Posts: 79
    No body makes a short throw shifter for the Aerio. A company in cali used to make them,but have since stopped. I got one of the last ones made. :D
  • stolguystolguy Posts: 12
    Anyone out there with a shop manual: what is the torque on the
    rear wheel bearing retaining nut? I decided to check one side out
    at 20,000mi. The factory uses a clear, nearly colorless grease.
    It was just beginning to dry a bit at the edges and I figure it would have
    been OK to about 40-50K. The bearing is a little different than
    conventional being a double ball (fairly hefty) using no adjustment
    by virtue of the premeasured cone spacing.
  • rod1977rod1977 Posts: 1
    What do you think is a fair price to pay for a new 05 Aerio SX?
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Today's Automotive News reported that the SX is due to be axed at the end of next year. Although the SX was on my short list, this plus the extremely low sales for this year should give you a very good price before you bite. I haven't checked Edmunds TMV prices but I'd bet they'd be on the high side of what you should pay.

    Why the SX is axed while the sedan sticks around is a mystery. The story discussed Suzuki's reluctance to market the car v. the Daewoos.
  • doohickiedoohickie Posts: 949
    A mystery? It seemed pretty clear to me: They say in the little bit of the article I can view without a subscription that they are starting a new sport wagon model. The Aerio SX is a sport wagon. Why have two direct competitors in the same showroom? I like the utility of the car, but the syling of the Aerio SX is best described as "quirky". It's proportions do not conform to the typical sport wagon (Mazda3 5 door, Kia Spectra5, etc.) Perhaps they are reskinning it with better proportions, or modding the Forenza Wagon into more of a sport package. The Forenza Wagon is nice enough, but nearly identical in basic design layout to my 1995 Escort Wagon- hardly a step forward. I could see where they might restyle it with more of the Reno styling cues, maybe a more rounded hatch area with a nice spoiler, pretty graphics, and call it a sport wagon. This, of course, only works if they put a more sustantial engine in it. The 2.0L Holden is almost acceptable in the Reno, but not enough for the slightly larger Forenza Wagon.
  • derick1derick1 Posts: 2
    i got a brand new SX AWD fully loaded for $15,100 before tax and licencing. it helps though if you want a good deal, go toward the end of the month late at night... they get desperate to make monthly quotas and they'll bargin. also what i did is i had the money, and we told them, if u can get it down to 15K, we'll buy it tonight... we kept the dealership open like a half hour late, but they wanted to sell that car
  • derick1derick1 Posts: 2
    I like the honey comb grill, but it would look so much cooler with some chrome/bling... lol... anyone know?!
  • nomonomo Posts: 3
    I just discovered a curious problem with one of the fog lamps on my new Aerio SX. There is a tiny symmetrical hole with a kind of bubbling around it.. I immediately thought a rock had hit it, but the more I think about it, a rock wouldn't leave such an unusual signature; there would be crack, no? Has anyone out there had a similar problem?
  • doohickiedoohickie Posts: 949
    Hard to tell from your description. Are you sure it's not a molded feature? Maybe a drain hole?
  • nomonomo Posts: 3
    I'm sure it's not a drain hole; the other light doesn't have it, and it wasn't there a week ago. I'm wondering if Suzuki will cover it under warranty. I doubt it. Thanks for the reply.
  • doohickiedoohickie Posts: 949
    Try the tack that it could not live up to normal conditions and therefore should be under warranty.

    BTW, the local Suzuki dealer just sold (or traded to another dealer) the last 05 Aerio they had. Don't know if any more 05s are coming, so perhaps it is an 06 or maybe the Reno. I can't buy for at least another month, so the 06s should be here by then anyway.
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