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The system uses to my knowledge three(3) fuses. Under the motor hood a 30A, and two (2) 20A fuses for each door. All are good.
Yes, the vechicle is under warranty. However, I'd like to save the trip as its far and very time consumming.
Can some expert out there please explain how to sync the doors, reset the computer etc. (I've already tried the owners manual reset procedure. Please help. I've heard of a long process to sync the doors. Can someone post it??
Thanks,
Kurt Kenyon
This happens about 25% of the time we try to open the sliding doors.
Any ideas what causes this problem and what can fix it. A mechanic at my dealership said it is a design flaw and I will just have to live with it.
If I had to do it over again, I question whether I would have spent the extra for the EX now.
My driver side door will not close completely, and we are now in the habit of finishing the job by slamming up against it right as it is closing. Also, unfortunately, we've already had one incident of the door closing on my child fingers due to my wife having the key fob in her pocket and leaning up against something (thereby having the door close button depressed).
I hate those doors and for all the oooh-aaaah nicecities they provide, I'd just as soon have doors that I can effortlessly shut and close manually.
I tried the eraser on the the sliding door. It closed a little better, but it still won't do that last grabbing motion to completely pull it in. Is there a way to adjust the thing. I cannot imagine how much it is gonna cost if I take it in. I live on a lime rock road and everything is quite dirty. The latch seems like it is just not grabbing. Any future suggestions, or am I gonna have to bite the bullet and take it in.
I then traded it in for a 2002 so far 9k miles, no problems with the doors.
I have 3 littles, 4,3, and 2. Doors once closed on the eldest hand, but no harm done.
Much rather have a motor closing the door on a hand than someone slamming shut the door with human strength and crushing my little boy's hand.
The convenience of electric doors is great.
I agree with you. I saw my friend's youngest boy finger got caught by his Sienna manual sliding door. We were standing right there talking when his daughter slammed the door there was nothing we could do to stop the door from closing.
bjk
Scruple k
On the pull to the right: thanks for the suggestions about the wheels and all, but all the easy stuff has already been eliminated. Besides, wheels cannot make it pull. Tires, yes; wheels, no. Wheels can make it vibrate, but that is not the problem. Honda is still insisting this pull is normal, but there is no way I can accept that. They did agree to let me bring it to a different dealer for another attempted fix (5th try!), but if I get the same nonsense about it being normal, I will file a Lemon Law Complaint. I will have no trouble winning. I am extremely confident. I described the problem to a local very reputable repair shop in my area and they confirmed that the pull is not normal and should not be accepted, and they said I would have little trouble winning a lawsuit. I will bring it back to them next week if necessary for them to formally document this on paper in a manner that can be used in court.
What a shame I am having so much trouble getting a reputable company like Honda to honor their warranty. I guess I need to investigate a breach of contract lawsuit, too. Oh, well. You gotta fight for what's right sometimes. It sure would be easier to just trade the van in, but that would not really help anyone else.
To be fair, in addition to a constant pull to the right I did describe to them classic torque steer, and it is this torque steer that they declare to be normal. But I have owned nothing but front wheel drive cars since 1981, and none of them had this much torque steer (upon brisk acceleration from a stop, NOT flooring it, the steering wheel will turn right as much as 30-40 degees, unless you hang on to it and turn it left to go straight). And, none of the several other 2002 Odys I drove had it, either. And the constant pull to the right I am experiencing was passed off by one service manager as a safety feature! He said they are designed that way to prevent your vehicle from wandering into oncoming traffic. Well then, I have purchased 3 Accords brand new, and not one of them pulled to the right. They now want me to believe those vehicles were defective. Another amazing fact is that they never once allowed me to demonstrate the problem to a service manager or field engineer, even though I requested the opportunity to do so. They did tell me on the phone that they would arrange a face-to-face meeting with a Honda rep, but then called back and said there was nothing more they could do based upon their field engineer and service manager information. They essentially reniged on their offer to meet face-to-face. I arranged on my own to bring the van into another dealership tomorrow (Monday), and if I don't get to demonstrate the problem, or if he dismisses it as normal, that's it; we go to court.
I took the opportunity to bring the van to a reputable third party, and was immediately told the pull was not normal and that I should file a Lemon Law claim if Honda does not fix it. Maybe Auburn or someone very familiar with this problem has seen it resolved. Anybody? I would really rather fix it than replace it simply because I will get hit with a stiff price for "use of the vehicle."
As for the torque steer, it can and does still happen on alot of front wheel drive cars and vans. However it shouldnt take much effort to hold it back.. Good luck
The problem is some people has no idea what the situation is and open his/her big mouth and said something and assume it was smart.
Post was talking about when ACCIDENT happened and power door has less damage to human body. The only stop on the manual sliding door is door frame, power door on the contrary has sensors if there is any foreign object blocking the sensor door will stop. Also power door is closing in a slow fixed speed not like manual sliding door depends on how hard a human slams the door.
Parents and 3 kids (2 girls and 1 boy) were ready to get on their minivan both manual sliding door were open. They have been doing this for last few years, same family same minivan with manual sliding door no one ever got his/her finger jammed on a closing door. His little boy wanted to get on first, so 1 of the girls went to the other side and got on. Since manual sliding door was too heavy for a little boy to close it. (If they had a power door, he could just pull the handle or push the button). His sister wanted to help him to close the door. His sister had been helping her sibling for years to close the door for him and never had any problem. We were "standing there talking" about a good virtue of sister helping younger sibling. But somehow that day, instead of sliding it slowly she decided to slam it as hard as possible. Unfortunately his little boy still has his finger on the door frame. Door was slammed soo fast, before anyone can react to it. It takes time for people to react to an unexpected event. Sometime human reaction time is not faster enough to stop the unexpected event. That's why we call it ACCIDENT.
I saw my friend little boy with some scratch on his right cheek bone today. His dad told me it happened at school. His little boy ran, tripped, fell and scratched his face. Just another accident happened at school. Shall his parent sue school due to lack of teacher's supervision? Shall we just tie all the school kids together with their teacher or shall we have one teacher followed each school kid and hold their hands make sure they will not run or do anything they may get hurt? How about we band all the sports and make sure no kids will get hurt?
There is a risk to do anything. Well these are the common sense not sure you will understand.
To all who have complained of a rumble/roar/transmission noise in top gear at 50-55 mph, I would like to share with you what the Honda Field Engineer did to minimize the noise on my van. He did something to isolate the shift lever cable and replaced the standard dynamic dampner with one off of a V6 Accord. The dynamic dampner is that odd block bolted to the topside of the front crossmember just next to the front motor mount that looks like it doesn't do anything. It did not get rid of the noise completely, but made it so that it is not at all objectionable anymore. And contrary to some complaints, the noise does not originate in the transmission.
Hope this is helpful!
Good luck
Front wheels (first number left wheel, second is right):
Camber 0.2 degree 0.2
Caster 2.1 degree 2.5
Toe -0.10" -0.03"
Cross Camber 0.1 degree
Cross Caster -0.4 degree
Total Toe -0.14"
Set Back .03 degree
Back wheels, left then right:
Camber -0.6 0.2
Toe -0.03 -0.05
Total Toe -0.08
Thrust Angle .01
After adjustments:
Front wheels, left then right:
Camber 0.1 degree -0.1
Caster 2.1 degree 2.5
Toe 0.02" 0.01"
Cross Camber 0.3 degree
Cross Caster -0.4 degree
Total Toe .04"
Set Back .07 degree
Back wheels, left then right:
Camber -0.6 0.2
Toe 0.02 0.01
Total Toe 0.03
Thrust Angle .01
There were some noteable changes made here, but it didn't make a noticable difference in how the van drives.
are the same).Reversing a tire may get two tires
with the same directional force to cancel each
other and eliminate the drift. In extreme cases,
you may need to replace a tire.
The only other thing I can think of at this time is if all else fails they could bring the toe adjustments to their max setting.Setting front and rear toe to the maximum toe-in specs tends to decrease a vehicle’s sensitivity to drift, especially on rear wheels.
Good luck
Thanks.
A/C WAS NOT WORKING FROM DAY ONE. DEALER FIXED CRACKED HOSE. TOOK TWO DAYS.
CAR PULLS TO LEFT. ALIGNED TWICE
GAS TANK STAYS ON FULL FOR 150 MILES THEN LOW LEVEL LIGHT COMES ON AT 1 GALLON LEFT. NEEDED NEW SENDING UNIT. AFTER FIXING SENDING UNIT DEALER LEFT GAS CAP LOOSE AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND STAYED ON. "DEALER CAME TO THE HOUSE AND FIXED IT"
WINDSHIELD WASHER HOSE WAS MISS ROUTED AND WORE THRU ON PULLY. THEN DEALER ALSO MISS ROUTED.
BAD SQUEAK ON RIGHT FRONT FROM BUMP STOP. THEN LEFT SIDE. DEALER GREASED BOTH SIDES
Have all these problems been fixed now?
Steve
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I have an 02 that was built in Canada and it has
been trouble free.
Thanks for your help.
Scruple K
I've largely been away from this board recently as other things in life have received higher priority. I hope my two issues haven't been addressed recently but if so sorry for bringing them up again.
1. Rear lift gate no longer stays up. First the right strut/lifter failed. Noticed a notch in the metal tube that goes inside the strut and could hear air leaking. It finally failed. Can't tell about the left one but Honda is going to replace both. Anyone else have this happen?
2. There is an intermittent high-pitched noise in the climate control system. Sounds a bit like a motor buzzing and lasts around .5 seconds. Noise is somewhat random as far as timing but certainly happening more frequently in recent weeks. If I turn off the climate control noise stops. Not consistent enough to bother the dealer with it but I was wondering if anyone has heard the same thing.
2001 EX
Thanks,
Jim d.
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Here is a sample VIN.
1 G8 ZH859 X Y N 190510
1 Country in which vehicle was built, see below G8 Code for the manufacturer ZH859 Codes for brand, body style, engine size and type
X Security code used to verify VIN by police
Y Model year, see below
N Code for assembly plant
190510 Serial number, numbering practices determined by manufacturer
1, 4, 5 - USA
2 - Canada
3- Mexico, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica
6 - Australia
9 - Brazil
J - Japan
K - South Korea
L - Taiwan
S - United Kingdom
V - France, Yugoslavia
W - Germany
Y - Sweden
Z - Italy A - 1980
B - 1981
C - 1982
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Here's some info I picked up about VIN no's and carbuying. Very helpful.
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Here is a sample VIN.
1 G8 ZH859 X Y N 190510
1 Country in which vehicle was built, see below G8 Code for the manufacturer ZH859 Codes for brand, body style, engine size and type
X Security code used to verify VIN by police
Y Model year, see below
N Code for assembly plant
190510 Serial number, numbering practices determined by manufacturer
1, 4, 5 - USA
&a;nbsp; D - 1983
E - 1984
F - 1985
G - 1986
H - 1987
J - 1988
K - 1989
L - 1990
M - 1991 N - 1992
P - 1993
R - 1994
S - 1995
T - 1996
V - 1997
&
Here's some info I picked up about VIN no's and carbuying. Very helpful.
http://www.carbuyingtips.com
free consumer advocate site. Dealer scams, negotiating tips, dealer cost, buying & selling used cars, info on financing, leases.
Here is a sample VIN.
1 G8 ZH859 X Y N 190510
1 Country in which vehicle was built, see below G8 Code for the manufacturer ZH859 Codes for brand, body style, engine size and type
X Security code used to verify VIN by police
Y Model year, see below
N Code for assembly plant
190510 Serial number, numbering practices determined by manufacturer
1, 4, 5 - USA
&aamp;nbsp; W - 1998
X - 1999
Y - 2000
1 - 2001
2 - 2002
Is this fix something I could do, or is it a dealer fix?
Thanks!
Mine was built by bubba in Alabama - everthing works great so far (knock on wood)
Steve
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The full size flat will not fit in the well and as such Honda has devised a method for mounting it in the rear well and provides a plastic bag for wrapping it in.
Some of the competing models require you to climb under the van to reach the spare - I've done that in the snow and it's not fun. Is the Ody solution perfect - no but which one is?
Side note - I did see someone changing the tire on an MPV recently. They did have the 2 center seats out on the curb. Anyone know if that is the procedure?
its delivery while driving at around 50 MPH.
After I read post #2116, etc. I mentioned this
to a service advisor at one regular maintainence.
They found this is a problem and placed a
"back order" on a remanufactured transmission.
Like someone sadi there are so many back orders
with the transmission, Honda must have its own
design or manufacture fault with the transmission.
My question is, how can the customers like me to push Honda issue a recall on this kind of transmission or get a new transmission, or get the back orders go fast.
As this noise is very hard to notice or distinguish from the road noise, I believe there
should be more Odyssey having this problem.
I'm thinking to file a complaint against it to
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Since some times the rpm jumpping up and down
in this situiation. That's dangous on highway
when driving at 50 MPH.
Thanks for any suggestion.
Thanks the people who
posted the transmission problems on this board.
Thanks the HOST, thanks all.
I need a little help with how to change the light bulb in the clock. I remember a post on how to do this about 1000 posts ago.
Thanks
2001 DEG LX - no other problems