Sorry I post the similar messages in several discussions.
I have a 3-months old odyssey 2005 EX-L. Recently I found it will generate some high-pitch "noise" when it is in speed 30-40 miles at quiet local street. if on highway the road noise will overpower the high-pitch one. The "noise" is very gentle and weak and you must pay great attention to find it. But once I recognize it I always can sense it. I thought I didn't turn off the radio at lowest volume when the first time I notice the "noise". it seems from the speaker or background. But my friend said it seems from transmition.
The dealer mechanic said the "noise" may be from the speaker, and may generate from the anti-noise system. He points out the noise is more recognizable when eco light is on. I doubt this point. He said he will check the other new Odyssey if it can duplicate the "noise". The "noise" pattern will change, sometimes even like classic music!
I'm not sure if it is the wind noise discussed here. The noise is always there after driving above 30 miles per hour, and it is relatively clearer when deaccelerate.
The car is very stable and cannot feel any vibration or any wrong. Any 2005 odyssey owners have similar experience? Thanks in advance.
You got it. I learned the similar lesson 4 years ago when I bought a Toyota Rav4. I went back to the dealer 1 dozen times for wind noise, rattle, weather strip deformation, side molding, roof rack, pulling and engine lights. Wow, almost forgot all the pain I went through! Anyone have experienced this much with your 05 odyssey? Mine has zero defect so far.
We just purchased a 2005 Honda odyssey EX-L with RES. We got a pretty thorough talk about the car from the salesman after the sale, but we are having a minor issue that I saw has come up on these boards before, and I was wondering if you have any suggestions on how to fix it or where to go to get help:
The car comes with a rear entertainment system, and wireless headphones. The headphones work well for radio and CD, but do not play the DVD player. Do you have any ideas? I would really appreciate any and all help.
does anyone know at what point the dealer has to disclose a defect or past repair/fix while selling new vehicle ? My "new" 2005 Ody was sold to me with a factory paint flow and to fix it right ( one of the whole rear panels has to be repainted) and to replace rear window seal (one can't replace just a seal on this Ody, the whole window needs to be replaced - per service manager ) it will cost about $ 550-600 which the dealer will do under warranty. My issue is that this is not a new problem - the problem was there before I bought the van yet the van was inspected and signed off by 2 dealer's employees as flawless before delivery to me. So my question is had they found it, fixed before selling it as they will fix it now including replacing the window, would they have to disclose the repair to future buyer ? Where is the cut off line as for the disclosure ? Thanks
While I don't disagree with your basic premise; “first year consumer is the "guinea pig" for any product”, the fact that our Odyssey arrived from the factory with a significant and visible void of windshield sealant on a brand new Odyssey is not something that Honda owners should expect or tolerate. This is in addition to missing trim clips found down in the driver’s side wheel well.
Judging by the technician’s comment that repaired our windshield that this was about the fifth time he has repaired this defect on 2005 Odysseys, this is not an isolated incident.
Andy why should Honda owners wait until subsequent years to have bugs addressed or corrected? Doesn’t all of the Honda marketing literature talk about how there are # 1 in quality?
The production engineers simply failed to monitor their processes or the result of poor workmanship. Unfortunately, this Honda Odyssey owner, and at least 5 more who also took their Odysseys to our local dealer to repair the same defect, has to spend their time correcting Honda’s failures.
i had a loose hood release cable that vibrated when i got to speed, and a noisy front strut when going over tiny bumps. both were rapidly diagnosed and corrected by my local dealershio.
i think the problem with some of these issues are that they might not be so immediately obvious through visual inspection.
sometimes you have to drive the vehicle a distance to determine these things, and i doubt the manufacturer has the luxury of putting many miles on each vehicle before they are prepped for shipping.
also, i imagine things can come loose for example during transport from factory to dealer with vehicles angled differently and secured on the transport than they would be when driven down the road pointing in the proper direction.
i'm not making excuses...you indicate there was a significant and visible void, and i wont dispute that. i don't believe my '03 has plastic (at the bottom of the windshield glass) that lies perfectly flat against the windshield in all places, but we don't have wind noise either.
For those of us who have been involved in engieering and manufacturing, we all understand that there will be a growth curve associated any new product or model.
Our 6 month old 2005 EXL are equipped with door handles on both sliding doors that are extremely hard to open (the passenger side is harder than the driver side). I use the remote control to open the doors as I am afraid that I will end up breaking the handles. If a friend is attempting to open the door, s/he usually thinks the door is locked. The service department told me that there is nothing they could do to adjust it. I would appreciate any comments about this as I don't believe there is no adjustment. Thanks in advance to all...
Are you referring to the inside door handles or the exterior door handles?
My wife and I use the remote for the exterior handles because our kids (ages 3 and 5) can't get them open (plus, the kids like 'magic' doors that open up when you approach the van). I've only used the exterior handles manually myself a few times; I don't think they're particularly hard (stiff) to open but the motion may be a little awkward if you are unfamiliar with them.
The inside handles can be used by my 3-yo so they aren't too tough to work. I don't know about any sort of 'adjustability' on the handles. It's never occured to me that door handles, of any sort, were adjustable. :confuse:
I have the exact same problem but only on the passenger side. It is hard to pull, and I am sort of afraid to force it as it sort of feels as if it is about to break when it opens. The van is less than 1 month, and I will take it in sometime soon.
On my 2000 EX,I cannot for the life of me find the location of the hazard/flasher relay. My relay burned out due to a trailer short. I have the new OEM relay, I've looked at the parts schematic and my Chiltons said it's supposed to be above the fuse panel at the drivers kick plate. I don't see it. Could it be BEHIND the fuse panel (which is bolted to the frame with a bolt that's almost impossible to get to)...Any Ideas?.......thanks
I'm about to purchase a 2003 Honda Odyssey that was lost at a Honda Dlr (paper work problem) with 14 km on it. Never registered no milage, still had all the seats wrapped from the factory
What should I be watching for? e.g fuel system problems
Make sure that the tranny recall work is done on it.
All Odys from the 1999 model to the 2004 made till Dec 2003 were included in the recall. Also ask for 100K mile warranty as a condition of purchase. You should be able to get a good deal with the 2006 models about 3 months away - but Ody has the best resale value going, which is your challenge here.
Once that recall work is done, I believe that you should be fine.
Make sure it didn't fall off a truck. Has happened before, not as uncommon as you'd think. Might have been in a body-shop for a year or so and there's always insurance issues and paperwork problems when something like that happens. Just something to watch out for...
And I wouldn't take the vehicle to them for service. Can you imagine how easy they'd lose paperwork on a car they don't even own??
On our 2004 EX-L model, when the ignition is turned to the middle position, there's a very noticeable hissing sound that disappears after 4-5 seconds. Had the same problem a few months back (at 6000 miles) and the dealer replaced a "fuel regulator switch". Now at 11,000 miles the sound has re-started. Anyone else have similar issues or ideas ???
i'd be suspicious too. this vehicle had two years to be "discovered" on the lot and sold. with the ODY being in steady demand - i'd wonder where it spent all this time.
You forgot another quote from the article (nice cherry picking - and no, it has nothing to do with currently available vehicle):
In fairness to Honda, her transmissions have been replaced without charge, although Honda has been using remanufactured transmissions, not new ones, for all its replacements.
While she has been greatly inconvenienced, I can think of other automakers (like Chrysler with its sludged-up 2.7-liter V-6s and Ford with its head-gasket-busting 3.8-liter V-6s) that have been guilty of major mechanical sins and then refused to stand behind their work, forcing people who trusted them to pay thousands of dollars.
And long-term reliability studies from companies such as J.D. Power and Associates and Consumer Reports magazine show that overall, Honda is a quality manufacturer.
Took our van to the dealer yesterday for the same problem. It was diagnosed as a "short in the wire from the radio to the dvd player" and apparently is on Honda's service bulletin as a problem. Also, turned out the unit for the third row headphones wasn't plugged in at the factory (in case that's a problem for anyone).
Reading the above discussion leads me to believe that Honda and Toyota may have become victims of their own success and some customers now expect perfection.
There is a failure rate in any manufacturing process. It can minimized but not eliminated entirely.
And it is unfortunate when it happens - especially early - with a major component such as a transmission. However, I would not expect a replacement vehicle in such circumstances.
I agree. The important thing is how well the manufacture will stand behind the problem and fix it. I think Honda does a great job of doing that.
I have a 2000 Odyssey with about 72K miles. The A/C just stopped working and they want $4800 (yes, $4800) to fix it!! They claim everything needs to be replaced as the compressor went and damaged the entire system.
Any manufacturer and / or dealer will look for ways to get out of responsibility when a major issue occurs on a vehicle. But, with all the maintenance records in one place, it is VERY difficult for the dealer and / or the factory to escape responsibility.
I think this is especially true with such things as oil/filter and transmission fluid changes. The dealer in most cases, charges about the same as these specialty shops, or very close to it. As we saw with Chrysler a few years back, it is essential that the correct tranny fluid and filter be used. Some of these specialty shops will use different filters and tranny fluid that says is (compatible) to Chrysler,Honda & etc. fluid, but in fact isn't. If left in your transmission, over time, this (compatible) fluid can eat away at the caskets and internal parts of your transmission and you may not realize it for 20-30,000 miles later when it goes out and your warrantee has expired.
We were traveling to New Hampshire this weekend when the traction control system on our 2001 Odyssey totally flaked out. We were heading up a hill at 70 MPH and accellerating mildly. All of the sudeen, all the power to the wheels cut, the car shuddered (in a pulsing manner like when the TCS kicks on). The TCS light and Check Engine light both came on and stayed on. My wife quickly pulled off the road but I could find nothing visable wrong. This happened a couple of more times during our trip, but we were able to make it there and back to New Jersey without any other trouble.
Does anyone have any experience with this particular problem? Any idea how much it might cost to repair? We will be trading the van in for a new car in the coming months and I am trying to figure out if we should accelerate our plans or get this fixed.
Just picked it up with 117,000 on it and noticed it was dripping 6-7 drops of oil each time I parked it. Also noticed that the dipstick was reading that I had 1/4-1/2 quart too much oil in it. Will the 2.3 VTEC engines blow off excess oil from somewhere? It seems to be dripping off from around the oil pan. Any ideas where to look first (other than the pan seal)? -J
Jim, our 2000 EX is doing something similar. The check engine light has been coming on. I reset it by pulling the fuse to see if it would continue to come on and it has. The TCS light has come on with the "check engine" light a couple of times. The shudder, I'm not sure we have experienced but the Transmission is doing something it hasn't done in the past. It's mostly when you are slowing down to go around a turn , it feels like it is jerks to go from 1st to second or second to 1st. We are taking to a friends shop on Tuesday to get the check engine light coded out. If I'm not mistaken, didn't Honda extend the warrenty for the transmissions on the 2000 models for 100k or 7 years? Someone help me out with this, I remember getting something in the mail a couple years ago but can't find it .
Hearing clicking noise from the left front driver side when shifting into reverse from drive (and vice versa) in my 2002 EXL. Does anyone have an idea what this could be? Thanks!
Seems to me there are a lot of people out there with 2005 Honda's with that new high tech engine and five speed transmission that can't even get 15mpg in the city with it. Unlike the old 3.8 old tech engine and four speed tranny on the Dodge/Chrysler that's getting around 16-18 mpg city. Maybe high tech isn't quite what it's cracked up to be.
Dunno about that, we get 16-18 in the city and 24-27 highway with our EX-L. I personally would rather have not gotten the VCM engine but can't really complain about the numbers thus far. Especially considering there are not many miles on the van yet.
As for your freudian slip in your previous post when talking about leaks in the transmission "caskets", I got a kick out of it. Seems that many shops are trying to get around stocking all the different types of specialized tranny fluid and the ill-informed customers are paying the price for it.
It sounds like the infamous "Transmission problem". We have a 2001 ody also and just had the transmission replaced about 2 months ago after the TCS and check engine light came on.
If you have less than 100,000 miles on it, honda should replace it for free.
Last week my Ody did the same thing and I thought the tranny was failing. Turned out to be a "fuel or throttle air valve" (not sure exactly) that works with the fuel injection system. BTW my tranny was replaced at 93k and 96k under warranty and works fine now.
Sorry about that hit return too soon for prior post! I noticed this weekend when it go to 90 that the spoiler of the rear hatch actually rubbed against the roof when I opened the hatch. It made this awful popping sounds as the spoiler rubbed against the top of the roof and even chipped the paint. Never had this before, I suspect it's weather related, I'm hoping its a simple fix, chipped paint forbodes early onset rust!! I'm taking it to the dealer to have it checked . Any else have this problem?
FYI I have also noticed the wind noise by the drivers seat (minimal at best) and the NAV system has had a few hiccoughs but it works well overall.
It's an awesome minivan but I'm waiting a year before buying any new model so all the bugs get worked out!
I too have been dis-satisfied with the mileage the vehicle is getting. We drove it from Florida to Canada over the Christmas Holiday and averaged about 24 or 25MPG. I will state however that this was running about 75-80mph on the highways. I told my local service rep about this and he said that I would need to run it between 60 and 70 to get closer to 30MPG. I would love to hear what you find out. I have to take mine in for a 10K mile check soon and want to discuss this with them.
I appreciate that you more than likely work for a dealer based by your screen name, but if you are to be a truly good sales or service person, you have to be 100% objective about the product. How do I know this? I am the sales manager for a company that sells general aviation aircraft so I deal with these types of things all the time.
If you get down on the ground and look to see the location of the condensor to the ground and lack of protection underneath, I don't see how you (or anyone else for that matter) could come to any other conclusion than it is a design which most definitely can be improved.
Additionally, if you look at some of the responses to my post you will find that others have had the same issue.
On our 2004 EX-L model, when the ignition is turned to the middle position, there's a very noticeable hissing sound that disappears after 4-5 seconds. Had the same problem a few months back (at 6000 miles) and the dealer replaced a "fuel regulator switch". Now at 11,000 miles the sound has re-started. Anyone else have similar issues or ideas ???
My wife drives her '05 EX-L down a 3/4 mile dirt/gravel road at least twice a day (our driveway) with no problems. It sounds like you were the victim of a rogue stone. However, I think I'll take a look at the condensor location this evening and see if I should fabricate some kind of aluminum 'skid plate' to protect against the odd flying rock.
"these forums attract people with problems like a magnet"
Isn't that the whole purpose of this forum? "Problems and Solutions". Or, are you implying these problems are just overstated? With a name like isellhondas at Edmunds you have a duty/ responsibility to be 100% objective. Which to your credit...seem to be doing better with lately.
It is common knowledge that the speed for the best mpg is about 55 - 60 mph.
I don't know the exact percentage, but you lose mpg at say 10% for every 5 mph over that 55 -60mph I recall reading/hearing somewhere. So at 75 -80mph, you should be glad that you are getting those numbers.
During my 800 mile trek to Toronto at long sustained speeds over 80 mph and with the Ody loaded with 5 adults and luggage, I would be darned happy to get 20mpg. It is just the physics and engineering of the situation.
My 99 Odyssey, bought new - 83,000 miles - just poped up the same E-00 error code. I talked to the Honda service tech who told me to go the other shop where its service Honda audio system. He also told me that $200 plus. Please let me know if you had other the solutions. Thanks
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I have a 3-months old odyssey 2005 EX-L. Recently I found it will generate some
high-pitch "noise" when it is in speed 30-40 miles at quiet local street. if on highway
the road noise will overpower the high-pitch one. The "noise" is very gentle and
weak and you must pay great attention to find it. But once I recognize it I always
can sense it. I thought I didn't turn off the radio at lowest volume
when the first time I notice the "noise". it seems from the speaker or background.
But my friend said it seems from transmition.
The dealer mechanic said the "noise" may be from the speaker, and may generate
from the anti-noise system. He points out the noise is more recognizable when eco
light is on. I doubt this point. He said he will check the other new Odyssey if it can duplicate
the "noise". The "noise" pattern will change, sometimes even like classic music!
I'm not sure if it is the wind noise discussed here. The noise is always there
after driving above 30 miles per hour, and it is relatively clearer when deaccelerate.
The car is very stable and cannot feel any vibration or any wrong.
Any 2005 odyssey owners have similar experience? Thanks in advance.
The car comes with a rear entertainment system, and wireless headphones. The headphones work well for radio and CD, but do not play the DVD player. Do you have any ideas? I would really appreciate any and all help.
Judging by the technician’s comment that repaired our windshield that this was about the fifth time he has repaired this defect on 2005 Odysseys, this is not an isolated incident.
Andy why should Honda owners wait until subsequent years to have bugs addressed or corrected? Doesn’t all of the Honda marketing literature talk about how there are # 1 in quality?
The production engineers simply failed to monitor their processes or the result of poor workmanship. Unfortunately, this Honda Odyssey owner, and at least 5 more who also took their Odysseys to our local dealer to repair the same defect, has to spend their time correcting Honda’s failures.
i had a loose hood release cable that vibrated when i got to speed, and a noisy front strut when going over tiny bumps. both were rapidly diagnosed and corrected by my local dealershio.
i think the problem with some of these issues are that they might not be so immediately obvious through visual inspection.
sometimes you have to drive the vehicle a distance to determine these things, and i doubt the manufacturer has the luxury of putting many miles on each vehicle before they are prepped for shipping.
also, i imagine things can come loose for example during transport from factory to dealer with vehicles angled differently and secured on the transport than they would be when driven down the road pointing in the proper direction.
i'm not making excuses...you indicate there was a significant and visible void, and i wont dispute that. i don't believe my '03 has plastic (at the bottom of the windshield glass) that lies perfectly flat against the windshield in all places, but we don't have wind noise either.
For those of us who have been involved in engieering and manufacturing, we all understand that there will be a growth curve associated any new product or model.
That is the nature of the beast!
My wife and I use the remote for the exterior handles because our kids (ages 3 and 5) can't get them open (plus, the kids like 'magic' doors that open up when you approach the van). I've only used the exterior handles manually myself a few times; I don't think they're particularly hard (stiff) to open but the motion may be a little awkward if you are unfamiliar with them.
The inside handles can be used by my 3-yo so they aren't too tough to work. I don't know about any sort of 'adjustability' on the handles. It's never occured to me that door handles, of any sort, were adjustable. :confuse:
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I have the exact same problem but only on the passenger side. It is hard to pull, and I am sort of afraid to force it as it sort of feels as if it is about to break when it opens. The van is less than 1 month, and I will take it in sometime soon.
Regards,
Emil
What should I be watching for? e.g fuel system problems
Ozzies4
Make sure that the tranny recall work is done on it.
All Odys from the 1999 model to the 2004 made till Dec 2003 were included in the recall. Also ask for 100K mile warranty as a condition of purchase. You should be able to get a good deal with the 2006 models about 3 months away - but Ody has the best resale value going, which is your challenge here.
Once that recall work is done, I believe that you should be fine.
And I wouldn't take the vehicle to them for service. Can you imagine how easy they'd lose paperwork on a car they don't even own??
In fairness to Honda, her transmissions have been replaced without charge, although Honda has been using remanufactured transmissions, not new ones, for all its replacements.
While she has been greatly inconvenienced, I can think of other automakers (like Chrysler with its sludged-up 2.7-liter V-6s and Ford with its head-gasket-busting 3.8-liter V-6s) that have been guilty of major mechanical sins and then refused to stand behind their work, forcing people who trusted them to pay thousands of dollars.
And long-term reliability studies from companies such as J.D. Power and Associates and Consumer Reports magazine show that overall, Honda is a quality manufacturer.
There is a failure rate in any manufacturing process. It can minimized but not eliminated entirely.
And it is unfortunate when it happens - especially early - with a major component such as a transmission. However, I would not expect a replacement vehicle in such circumstances.
I agree. The important thing is how well the manufacture will stand behind the problem and fix it. I think Honda does a great job of doing that.
I cannot remember if Chrysler stood behing the problem and fix it like Honda did???.
Is this a known issue with these cars?
Has anyone gotten it fixed for less?
Thanks - Ed
I think this is especially true with such things as oil/filter and transmission fluid changes. The dealer in most cases, charges about the same as these specialty shops, or very close to it. As we saw with Chrysler a few years back, it is essential that the correct tranny fluid and filter be used. Some of these specialty shops will use different filters and tranny fluid that says is (compatible) to Chrysler,Honda & etc. fluid, but in fact isn't. If left in your transmission, over time, this (compatible) fluid can eat away at the caskets and internal parts of your transmission and you may not realize it for 20-30,000 miles later when it goes out and your warrantee has expired.
Does anyone have any experience with this particular problem? Any idea how much it might cost to repair? We will be trading the van in for a new car in the coming months and I am trying to figure out if we should accelerate our plans or get this fixed.
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim
As for your freudian slip in your previous post when talking about leaks in the transmission "caskets", I got a kick out of it. Seems that many shops are trying to get around stocking all the different types of specialized tranny fluid and the ill-informed customers are paying the price for it.
It sounds like the infamous "Transmission problem". We have a 2001 ody also and just had the transmission replaced about 2 months ago after the TCS and check engine light came on.
If you have less than 100,000 miles on it, honda should replace it for free.
Not that uncommon on a Honda with 117,000 miles on it and not that big of a deal to fix. If it's leaking that bad, don't delay having it done.
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Any else have this problem?
FYI I have also noticed the wind noise by the drivers seat (minimal at best) and the NAV system has had a few hiccoughs but it works well overall.
It's an awesome minivan but I'm waiting a year before buying any new model so all the bugs get worked out!
John
Tallahassee, FL
If you get down on the ground and look to see the location of the condensor to the ground and lack of protection underneath, I don't see how you (or anyone else for that matter) could come to any other conclusion than it is a design which most definitely can be improved.
Additionally, if you look at some of the responses to my post you will find that others have had the same issue.
Thanks for the input.
I still think the chances of getting one damaged would be pretty slim. These forums attract people with problems like a magnet.
If you take a look a lot of late model cars are built prtty much the same way.
Thanks for the heads up.
Isn't that the whole purpose of this forum? "Problems and Solutions". Or, are you implying these problems are just overstated? With a name like isellhondas at Edmunds you have a duty/ responsibility to be 100% objective. Which to your credit...seem to be doing better with lately.
I don't know the exact percentage, but you lose mpg at say 10% for every 5 mph over that 55 -60mph I recall reading/hearing somewhere. So at 75 -80mph, you should be glad that you are getting those numbers.
During my 800 mile trek to Toronto at long sustained speeds over 80 mph and with the Ody loaded with 5 adults and luggage, I would be darned happy to get 20mpg. It is just the physics and engineering of the situation.
Please let me know if you had other the solutions. Thanks