Report Your Local Gas Prices Here (retired discussion, please see the new one)

sp01 · May 2001

poetic...

Halku in there somewhere, shouldn't wonder...

wilcox · May 2001

After reading recent posts in this discussion, I didn't feel an ounce of guilt yesterday in filling up my Ranger P/U here in W. Georgia with 93 octane even though it's set for 87. (Is that what they call a run-on sentenance?); ^ O

Heck, $1.55 a gallon is cheap relative to other areas of North America. Once in awhile I can almost hear a ping coming from it's little V6 heart....the 93 will halt that!

chevytruck_fan · May 2001

Well our governor just (washington state) put out a transportation plan that would raise gas prices 7 cents a gallon, holly toledo!

He said that the voters will probably get to vote on it becuase it was a big tax increase, I can tell you right now I'm voting no, and I'm voting him out of office next term.

hiwaysanity · May 2001

in your state just came from here, where he headed up an agency that did one of the largest public works projects in history. The guy is smart, very capable, and knows how to spend money!

chevytruck_fan · May 2001

all I know is they just want to throw money at this and hurt the people on the low end of the scale, i.e me as a college student, why don't they stop giving boeing and microsoft so much corporate welfare and use that money for transportations.

mmcbride1 · May 2001

In Denver. I've never seen it this high here. Ever.

Regular $1.75
Mid Grade $1.89
Premium $1.99

Ridiculous.

chevytruck_fan · May 2001

amazing enough our gas prices have gone up 2 cents in the last month, before that they dropped 10 cents!

phonos · May 2001

Rumours that gasoline could hit $3 per gallon in parts of the United States this summer grew considerably louder Thursday with a published report that gas station owners are stocking up on the numeral 3 for their signs.

Link:

http://www.prudentbear.com/boards/user/non-frames/message.asp?forumid=4&messageid=44700&threadid=44700

blarg1 · May 2001

How did the moron news people know that gas would hit $3 this summer? Why didn't gas hit three dollars the next day? This is like boiling a frog. Put a frog in boiling water and he jumps out. But put him in warm water,ooo doesn't that feel good? and gradually raise the temperature, then you get a boiled frog.

This is all crap. Someone is incrementally gouging the money you could spend on your family, better car or retirement savings. Someone sent up a trial balloom just to test us, and all we did was mildly complain. If we rioted in the streets, then we'd see $1 gas again. We are too soft, too compliant. Write letters to these gouging gas companies. They probably figure a letter is worth a couple hundred customers. They get enough letters and maybe they will change their tune.

There is plenty of supply. That reformulated gas does not cost $3 per gallon to make. Remember the days when ethenol was introduced? It was supposed to be cheaper to make and pass the savings back to us. For a while, it was. Where can you get 100% gas anymore? yet the ethenol stuff sells at full price today.

Stand up for something or lay down for anything!

Robberbarron · May 2001

1.699
1.799
1.899

wilcox · May 2001

I think it might be nice to see electricity rates go up too. Natural gas and petroleum shouldn't be the only ones at the party. How about a 40% increase FERC?

hiwaysanity · May 2001

So, the leading cause of premature tire wear and/or failure is also the leading cause of decrease in gas mileage. Underinflation of 2psi can reduce gas mileage by as much as 10%!

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010504/2259.html

lokki · May 2001

1.71 regular

1.85 midgrade

1.95 premium

There is still cheaper gas around, but this is the Chevron near my home. Sigh... hate to give up that Techron in the gas.... but....

akangl · May 2001

Wow, I used to think the gas prices in Alaska were outrageous, we're cheap compared to the rest. Here's what us Alaskans are paying:

$1.599 Regular Unleaded
$1.779 Premium Unleaded
$1.699 Diesel

mazdafun · May 2001

Looks like this is one of the few trends where the Midwest leads the nation:

87: $1.799
89: $1.899
92: $1.999

Some places around here charge up to $0.10 per gallon more.

bahhumbug · May 2001

I had an interesting article sent to me about what to do about reversing gas prices and I don't have the actual article anymore but do remember what it was about. It said (more or less) to do this: DO NOT BUY ANY GASOLINE FROM THE BIGGEST DEALERS eg EXXON AND MOBIL. Can you imagine if nobody in the USA bought gasoline for 3 weeks from Exxon and Mobil what would they do??? CLOSE UP OR REDUCE THEIR PRICES?????

They have been doing it to us for years now let us do it to them. Let's everyone get together - It can be done.

OK now let's see what happens!! DO IT TO THEM!!!!!!!!! Thanks. Irritated in Illinois
Bahhumbug

KCRam · May 2001

...I'm feeling sorry for the gasoline-powered dudes and dudettes

My usual fill-up spot - Sunoco truck stop, Palisades Park NJ, compared to April 18:

87 - $1.559 - up 12 cents, up 24 from April 2
89 - $1.659 - up 12 cents, up 24 from April 2
93 - $1.739 - up 12 cents, up 22 from April 2
94 - $1.769 - up 11 cents, up 17 from April 2
diesel - $1.379 - unchanged, up 6 from April 2

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renonevada · May 2001

These gasoline prices seem outrageous, but they are quite reasonable for a number of reasons.
1) Inflation. Housing has gone up over 250% over the past twenty years due to explosive growth demograhics in advancing metro areas. Vehicles have more than doubled in the last twenty years (I never dreamed that I would pay more than $20,000 for a truck...can't hardly find any fullsize today without sacrificing creature comforts).

2) Wage increases. Most wages have averaged an increase of at least 3 percent per year over the last twenty years.

3) Gallons of other products are much higher. Y'all know what they are.

4) Oil finding and development costs are astronomical. The easy (i.e. shallow) oil and gas have been consumed long ago. It now takes very sophisticated engineering to find and recover hydrocarbons below 18,000 feet. These costs are unbelievably costly.

5) There is a shortage of refineries. All refineries are operating at full capacity. Why not build new refineries? Because the regulations on meeting new air quality emissions standards would be so high that $3.00 a gallon gasoline would be a BARGAIN !!!

6) And, last but not least, the OPEC Cartel controls the worldwide production. We produce 10 percent of the oil, but we CONSUME almost 80 percent of the world's production.
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I do not see anyone complaining about Suburbans costing upwards of $40,000 or Z71s costing more than $35,000. What's wrong with this picture? If you want to complain about oil and gasoline prices, start by not buying those expensive "toys". But...who is willing to make that sacrifice? I dare say, NOBODY !!!

fastdriver · May 2001

So. CT MOBIL-

$1.78.9 87 octane
$1.88.9 89
$1.98.9 91

That was LAST week. Have to check it out today and see what it is. I'm sure as Memorial Day gets closer, the price will rise!

fastdriver

gymiller · May 2001

During our trip to the Kentucky Derby, I noticed prices were pretty high to and from Louisville from Cincinnati.

Regular $1.89
Mid Grade $1.99
Premium $2.09

Here we go!

agtabby · May 2001

these ideas for ways to lower prices never work.

Remember the great american gasout I and II? Neither did anything. Any economist (or just common sense) will tell you that buying the same gas but moving purchase to different day will not do anything. Might even make things worse.

Likewise the idea of boycotting a few big companies is silly. They might lower prices, but the other companies will raise them. If I knew a bunch of yahoos were avoiding my competitors and had to come to me, I would raise prices in a second (hmmmm I own stock in TOSCO, a competitor, so why not? Help me out here people)

Next year we'll be getting junk emails telling us that when we buy gas to hold the pump handle with your left hand, not your right. This will bring the gas companies to their knees!

Kinda amazing, the simple, common sense solution is never advocated. If you want lower prices, USE LESS GAS.

* less leisure driving
* drive 5 mph over the limit instead of 10
* next car don't buy a large SUV or truck
* next house you buy try to end up with a shorter commute

This idea would work. and would reduce traffic and pollution. Too bad it is a communist plot.

lokki · May 2001

Your reasons are all very interesting. They all make sense, if you can overcome one small problem.

That is, why did they all just happen to come together in the last few months? All those reasons would account for a slow steady consistent rise.

They are not an explanation for a 50 cent jump in a two month period.

wilcox · May 2001

Well, the little "no name" station just down the street that Mr. Patel runs is still selling regular for $1.40 and premo 93 for $1.55.! That's cheap!

(now if I could just get the car started....: )

amz997 · May 2001

Texaco on rt 363:
87- 165
89- 175
93- 188

sadatx · May 2001

In Chicago, IL, I went to my usual Mobil and the prices were :

87>>2.03
89>>2.13
93>>2.23

An Amoco by my house is:

87>>2.14
89>>2.24
93>>2.34

Damn, this sucks!! And it's not even memorial day yet!!

mykem · May 2001

I'm sure the teacher earning $30K, the blue-collar worker who earns $10 an hour or the twenty-something pizza delivery kid who is trying to scrape together a buck cares about how gas is cheap today.

Today's minimum wage is, what? $5.35? Let's say $5 to account for taxes.

That's earning $10K a year. $192 a week. With gas only a buck higher and an econobox with only a 10 gallon tank, that's an extra ten bucks per gallon.

that's more than a 5% increase out of pocket for gasoline during a summer. In which time, no one's wage increased 5%.

Sure, it may be easy for the person earning $1000 a week to shill out an extra ten bucks.

But let me address point #3...

3) Gallons of other products are much higher.

True, but my car don't run on Scope, Evian, or caviar. I also don't have to buy Scope, Evian or caviar -- I can find ample, AMPLE, substitutes. I don't need Scope. I can use tap water ($3.00 for over 748 gallons) and I hate caviar.

I also don't use 17 gallons of Scope in a week.

And these days, I'm getting milk for $1.50 a gallon -- I'd obviously rather use that right about now.

But that's all a thing of the past. Keep prices up this high and soon you and me will be paying out through the nose for everything.

Unless your local grocery has a grain farm on site and the means to produce bread there, look for higher prices at the local Food Barn.

Those big rigs that get you stuff don't run on good intentions.

(At 3% for thirty years, a worker earning $10,000 in 1970 would be earning just over $24,000 a year in 2000.)

-m

mykem · May 2001

sadatx-

Boy do I have something to look forward to when I come home! Woo doggie!

Anyway, here I am in Sillycorn Valley (San Jose, CA) and the surrounding areas..

Beacon and Arco always seem to be the lowest -- less than $2.00 consistently. I've seen off-brands (Ocean?) at 1.81.

I've paid less than $1.90 because it's a rental car and I just don't care : )

The Chevrons, Shells and Amocos are seemingly the biggest rip-offs around at more than $2.15 for one station for regular.

I've been up and down the coast (From Napa to San Luis Obispo) and the cheapo-s are always el cheapo and the brand names are always brand name price.

I have to sort-of agree with the previous poster -- don't support the big oil companies. It probably won't do any good, but you might save coin.

-m

carguy5000 · May 2001

Why don't you give it a rest. My $43k Expedition did not fall off a tree, I earned the rite to buy it by sacrificing, and saving my hard earned scheckles.
your arguement is pathetic, because it is not about lack of supply, it is about controlled supply (can you say Beanie Babies). Notice how most of these postings reflect one thing: the price of diesel. Diesel has not risen the way gasoline prices have for one reason, and it has nothing to do with home heating fuel in the Northeast. Raise the price of diesel, and big industry is affected, not the little guy. The oil companies learned this one from the same game they tried last year.
The "boil the frog theory" is exactly correct, the more these fools on TV etc. keep telling the sissy-pants public that gas will be $3 a gallon, the more they believe it. There is no real reason for the increase. Look at Exxon stock today? Give me a break.

In regards to agtabby:

* less leisure driving
* drive 5 mph over the limit instead of 10
* next car don't buy a large SUV or truck
* next house you buy try to end up with a shorter commute

Yeah...and if the dog didn't stop to take a dump he would have caught the rabbit.
Try to be just a little realistic. If everyone just stayed home and watched 90210 reruns I guess we wouldn't have this problem at all.
Your Gas out theories are incorrect due to one thing that is different today, oil companies have cut way back on bulk storage, moving to jit production. As a result, consumption calculations are precise and a temporary lack of demand would cause a suituation in production/raw material storage. While this is not a great suggestion it would throw a wrench in the works.

It is total [non-permissible content removed] folks, and it is time that we do something about it.

mykem · May 2001

I can't help but agree with you Carguy5000...

Good point regarding diesel... I guess since Semis use it, product costs might remain low...

But the stores might be itching for any good reason to raise prices and can just cite 'gas costs,' and the public would swallow it.

-m

mykem · May 2001

adding 'gas' to the fire ...

If you are in a Reformulated area (such as California, the East Coast, Milwaukee or Chicago), you might be interested to know...

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010507/bs/energy_exxon_ftc_dc_1.html

Ain't it nice that a company (Unocal) has a patent on reformulated gasoline?

-m

ban1 · May 2001

Storage tank my Dad installed during the 70's gas crissis. We are sitting on 5000 gallons of the stuff.

No Smoking in the Fall Out shelter.

wilcox · May 2001

My Marietta neighbor bought a diesel rabbit back then. He had a 200 gallon(or so) tank behind his wood pile....ha-ha...the old boy was prepared.

Gad, I thank my lucky stars that I didn't fall for one of those gas guzzling SUV's...glad I didn't listen to my 9 year old on that....

carguy5000 · May 2001

I fail to see the logic in saying that. Just because you don't have one does not mean that you are not affected by the current market conditions. Unless you are stuffing your family in a Geo Metro, your primary vehicle is probably getting around 20 mpg. That is still not a reason to settle for what is being forced upon us by the oil companies.
Believe you me, if the OPEC Nations were doing "this" to us right now, all of the flag waving Americans would be all over TV saying how wrong it is. The sad part is that we are really doing it to ourselves.
And our only defense, "Sure am glad I don't have one of dem big SUV's"

hiwaysanity · May 2001

An I too am glad I didn't jump at an SUV or a pickup, because the impact on me would be even greater. That is not a comment on the cause of the current problem, just on the effects.

carleton1 · May 2001

87 Octane:
Shell $1.979 Chevron $1.999 Flying J $1.919.
Anaheim prices: Chevron $1.869 Shell $1.879
St George, Utah: Chevron $1.549 Arco $1.549
West Valley City, Utah: Sinclair at Harmon's $1.499
Personally I am not worried about gasoline prices as our 1999 Grand Caravan got 27.5 MPG for the round trip. Overall average in 27,067 miles in 26 months is 23.5 MPG. If gasoline gets over $4.00 a gallon, we may get a Toyota ECHO.
Americans have been spoiled by cheaply priced gasoline. We need to buy and drive more fuel efficient vehicles. Toyota ECHO is the most desirable compromise between performance, fuel economy, and cost of purchase...unless a person wants the comfort of a minivan. Almost any minivan provides comfort and reasonable fuel economy (if driven responsibly).

carleton1 · May 2001

Gasoline in Anaheim, California $1.869 for a gallon. Bottled water in Disneyland in Anaheim is $2.50 for less than a half gallon! A 12 ounce CocaCola (Pepsi, etc.) is $1.25 in a vending machine in Anaheim.
Aren't we glad our cars don't run on water!!!

hiwaysanity · May 2001

That was probably a 1 pt. 9 oz. bottle, which is 25 oz., which is less than 1/5th gallon! Bottled water is ALWAYS more than gasoline. It amuses me to sit a lunch and watch all of these socilaly concious enviro-freaks, each with his or her bottle of Poland Springs water, griping about the price of gasoline. Even from BJ's they paid better than $2.50 per gallon for the water. There's a "lifestyle" change that can help pay for the gas price increase - drink tap water!

mykem · May 2001

true, but that's bottled water

i've been drinkin' nuttin' but good ol' tap water for my entire life and i ain't stoppin' no time soon.

My city water is $3.10 per 100 cu ft (748 gallons)

Funny.. On the bill I have here it reads "Please conserve our water resource. Water is a valuable commodity and expensive to produce and deliver to your location."

I guess gasoline would be considered "liquid gold."

-m

wilcox · May 2001

"And our only defense, "Sure am glad I don't have one of dem big SUV's"...

I know, it doesn't sound good, but what else can I say? Someone much, much bigger than this Georgia Redneck is in control. I make a little over $10.00 an hour and I gots to drive like over 60-70 miles per day. My pay ain't going up...all I can do is brag how I'm not spending as much on fuel as the SUV owner does. It keeps me from getting depressed about my own situation.
There is not nothing else I can do other than come into this chat room and whine with the rest of you posters....and brag that we here in W. Ga. are payin probably some of the lowest prices per gallon around the 50 states.

$1.40 - $1.44 for the cheap brand....3-5 cent more for name brand stuff...

\: ^ (|)

ravram · May 2001

Well, I keep hearing that the Midwest is being hit the hardest with prices, and I dunno.....

3 weeks ago, I heard that gas prices this summer would be definately over $2.00/gallon, as opposed to isolated days last summer. NOW, all I keep hearing is how it will go up to over $3.00 for an extended amount of time, GEESH!!!

2 months ago, I traded in my SUV for a little Chevy Prizm/Toyota Corolla clone. Seeing as to how I have not ONE dollar to spare, I am really glad I made that move. I am happy for the people that can afford expensive SUV's, and I wish I could be there, but for now, I am happy with the move I made. My boyfriend stopped driving his F150 back and forth to work (all country roads anyway) and got his 1973 SuperBeetle out of the garage, gave it a tune up, and off he goes on that.

Ann Arbor MI, gas prices as of this morning:

87--$1.909
89--$2.009
93--$2.109

Hey, at least it's not as bad as Europe... :-(

Ramona

carguy5000 · May 2001

Most of you are missing the point of this entire situation.....If you got hit in the mouth and lost a few teeth, would you say "Ah, those were going to fall out at some point anyway."
I don't think so.
Folks, this entire b.s. gas price issue is very simple: it is big oil taking money from US, the little guy. THERE IS NO SUPPLY SHORTAGE. The oil companies are creating this situation.

Ramona- We are not in Europe, and getting hit in the mouth is not as bad as getting hit by a tractor trailer (I think). Stop trying to rationalize the royal screwing that we are taking.

wilcox · May 2001

What do you propose that we do about it, other than take it on the chin from those nasty oil companies?

mnardini · May 2001

Still the cheapest Gas in the world

sp01 · May 2001

our consumption rate is on the rise, it seems to follow that prices are as well. Regardless of the additional gouging that the oil companies orchestrate.

If consumption were falling, I don't think prices would be rising like THIS.

"I am happy for the people that can afford expensive SUV's..." Yeah, me too. I'd be a lot happier if they'd buy some brains and a wagon, sedan or coupe! Just like my next door neighbor, his wife and their 3-yr.old son (lovely people, BTW) who "need" that nine-seat Suburban for their "camping trips" to the lake. Hint: if it's graded and has signs, it's NOT off-road! Duh!

Then there's the guy around the corner with his Exclusion or Excavation or whatever, who takes his dogs everywhere. Hint: the ex-large canine cages fit two side-by-side in a Taurus wagon just as well.

No, I don't want to drive around in an Echo either, but there's plenty of middle ground out there that makes a LOT more sense than a stinkin' SUV!

Unless I'm mistaken, we pay a lot less at the pumps than most other countries in this world, regardless of who's getting the profits...

mykem · May 2001

Not as cheap as a fellow from Saudi Arabia..

I think it was actually on the 300M-LHS mailing list (not Edmunds) he posted he fills up his 17-gallon tank for less than US$10.

Must be nice to sell oil to your own countrymen. Must be that country-pride I hear so much about and never see locally.

-m

October 2000 pricing table worldwide:
http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/100200.asp

April 2000:
http://www.runzheimer.com/corpc/news/scripts/040300.asp

sp01 · May 2001

mykem, it's THEIR damn oil in the first place!...;-)

carguy5000 · May 2001

"Yeah, me too. I'd be a lot happier if they'd buy some brains and a wagon, sedan or coupe!"
Nice one.....you drive what you want and I will stick to what I drive. I drive an SUV for no other reason than I want to. No excuses.

According to the NY Times this morning, imported oil was trading at $24.82 per bbl. The price increase that we are experiencing, for the fourth time on this board, is artificial. It is not directly tied to demand, rather it is tied to idiotic thinking that the rest of the world pays too much, so I guess we should too.
Again, notice the price of diesel, it isn't rising. What did the truckers do last summer when diesel raised at the same rate as gas?
Big oil learned not to do that again.
What does gas have that diesel does not have? Extra additives....big oil says "lets say that additives (that we have been using for 10+ years) cost more, therefore we can raise the price of gas"

kkollwitz · May 2001

the cheapest selfserve regular leaded gas I could buy in Greenville, SC cost $1.249/ gal. Today selfserve regular unleaded costs $1.459/ gal., including higher state & federal taxes.....yawn....fill 'er up!

mykem · May 2001

I could buy selfserve unleaded 87 gas for 1.29

The day after that gas was up to 1.41.

Today selfserve unleaded 87 gas is 2.15

Welcome to Illinois.

These are the things that make me wish the good old fashioned Mafia was still in charge around here. There would be some concerned businessmen making sure their neighbors weren't being taken advantage of.

-m

sp01 · May 2001

from May to August, prices usually rise.

They do that because, as a country, that's when we tend to get in our vehicles and travel more.

Seems truckers truck all the time.

I acknowledged that there is manipulation by manufacturers and distributors, but you can't charge expanding green in a shrinking market.

"I drive an SUV for no other reason than I want to..." Sums it up fairly well!

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