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Mackabee
its the little things that
break on the damn things
like switches, plastics,bearings
clutches, but they are damn expensive
to fix. My fathers 4runner is good,
dependable, but every month or so he
is putting another $500 into it.
I think a full size toyota would not fit
in the market paced by the big 3.
if im gonna tow I want that v10 or
D.I. deisel and years of experience
that comes with american. sport ute's
maybe toyota, but trucks, american.
The new Tundra still does not have towing capabilities, engine choices, and chassis variations to compete with the domestics. My guess is that the Tundra will garner sales mostly from the Dakota and current Toyota owners. Who knows. Later, Wes.
4 cyl. engine, forget it.
I feel the Tundra should do well, but based on Toyotas passed performance no one really knows what will happen. My only disappointment is the extremely limited number of choices when purchasing a Tundra. With the exception of one Cadillac, the only company I have bought from is Ford. I like the idea that whatever car or truck I want Ford will probably have for me to purchase. If I have an F-150 but my needs change Ford has plenty of other options to choose from. Customer loyalty with trucks is something Toyota is ignoring with the one flavor only Tundra. Later, Wes.
Quality and Industry-Leading Features
TORRANCE, Calif., March 10 /PRNewswire/ -- When it
goes on sale in early June, the all-new 2000
model-year Toyota Tundra will enter the full-size
pickup truck market with an impressive resume of
value, quality and industry- leading features.
The Tundra will be built exclusively at Toyota
Motor Manufacturing, Indiana (TMMI), an all-new
$1.2-billion facility located in Gibson County,
near the city of Princeton. It will ride on an
all-new chassis that will help set a full-size
pickup benchmark for handling, ride comfort and
interior noise isolation.
Featuring the most sophisticated powerplant ever
offered in a full-size pickup, Tundra's optional
i-Force 245 horsepower 4.7-liter engine will be the
first double-overhead cam, 32-valve V8 ever
offered in the segment. Derived from the powerful
engine used in the legendary Toyota Land Cruiser,
it will provide a high level of smoothness and
quietness. It also will be one of the first V8
engines in the segment to achieve an L.E.V.
(low-emission vehicle) emissions classification
from the EPA, and will achieve good fuel
efficiency.
Tundra will be available in three grades -- base,
SR5 and Limited. It will be powered by either a V8
or V6 engine, including two- or four-wheel drive,
two-door regular cab with an eight-foot bed or
four-door Access Cab with a six and-a-half-foot
bed.
The new Access Cab features large double-doors and
one of the most expansive entry areas in the
segment. It also is the only four-door pickup to
feature an exterior handle on each door providing
easier operation from the outside than the commonly
used door-jam mechanism.
The Access Cab's 60/40 rear split-bench seat
provides seating for three passengers, dual
adjustable outboard headrests and a fold-down
center armrest with cup holders. Valuables can be
hidden out of sight in a storage compartment under
the rear seat cushion or the cushion can be folded
up to handle cargo, instead of passengers. On
models equipped with a standard front bench seat,
the Access Cab will accommodate six passengers --
three in the front and three in the rear.
Standard equipment on Tundra will include driver-
and passenger-side airbags (with passenger air bag
cutoff switch), all-new sound systems, dual 12-volt
power outlets, high solar energy-absorbing glass
and driver- and passenger-side dual sun visors with
pull-out extensions.
In anticipation of Tundra's summer launch, Toyota
has announced prices on the new full-size entry.
Manufacturers Suggested Retail Prices (MSRP) will
range from $14,995 for a base 4x2 model to $27,830
for a top-of-the-line Limited 4x4.
The company said an SR5 4x2 Access Cab powered by
the high-tech i-Force V8 will be priced at $22,250.
The price includes 4-speed ECT automatic
transmission, CFC-free air conditioning, ETR radio
with cassette and four speakers, tachometer, cruise
control and 16-inch styled steel wheels.
A base-model 4x2 regular cab V6 with five-speed
manual transmission will have a price of $14,995.
The price includes cloth seats, cut-pile carpeting,
AM/FM cassette, dual outside mirrors and P245/70
R16 tires. SOURCE Toyota Motor Sales USA, Inc.
The truck is just too small. It is almost exactly the same size as the mid-sized Dodge Dakota. The backseat in the extended cab is a joke, and the bed on the extended cab is only 6 feet long.
The truck will be a hit with current Tacoma owners who can't wedge their middle-aged spread into their current seats. People who don't really need a full-size truck, but who wouldn't think of driving a Dakota will go gaga.
Maybe in a few years Toyota will find a way to build a real full size truck and leave the mid-size market to Dodge.
The Tundra still does not offer the packages that Ford/GM/Dodge can offer in their full size trucks. How many engines are there between the three? How many cabs? How many suspensions? How many transmissions? The Tundra will be a " I wanna play with the big boys truck".
Here is a short text I saw on the Tundra's state-of-the-Art engine "Finally, a full-size truck that can get out of its own way. We recommend that the competition get out of its way, too- from 0-60, the Tundra V8 4x2 is the fastest in it's class.* Its available 4.7L, 245hp i-Force engine is the only double overhead cam (DOHC), 32-valve V8 offered in a full-size pickup. The unique shape of its pentroof combustion chamber produces maximum fuel efficiency and increased power. There's no lag time with this powerplant- when you get on it, you're gone. What's more, the i-Force V8's advanced design helped the Tundra become one of the first full-size pickups to achieve low emission vehicle (LEV) status."
So to conclude I think the Tundra will be a great personal use vehicle, that really can haul something, with a maximum towing capability of 3.5 tons. This truck I believe will sell it's goal of 100,000 a year without a problem
*- Based on AMCI-certified performance tests conducted using a model-year 2000 Toyota Tundra V8 4x2 Access Cab SR5 against comparably equipped 1999 4x2 4.6-liter Ford F-150, 4x2 4.8-liter Chevrolet Silverado and 4x2 5.2-liter Dodge Ram half-ton full-size pickup trucks.
That's an interesting point - that the 4.7 takes premium fuel. But, where did you find that info?
I've read a few articles on the Tundra and haven't come across that. Does the same 4.7 in the LandCruiser/Lexus 470 take premium?
I just test drove a new 2000 Tundra and checked out the owners manual in the truck. It lists a minimum required pump octane rating of 87 (regular unleaded), just like the Ford and Chevy.
The Tundra that I just test drove stopped much much better (quicker stop, less peddle effort, less vibration) than either the Ford or Chevy that I drove (all comparable trucks, brand new 4X4 extended cab pickups). Industry testing done so far tends to back this up.
You are in denial. They are D R U M S. Are they even anti-lock in rear? Doubt it.
Not saying there is anything wrong with your preference for Toyotas, but there is no compelling reason than I can see to switch from big-3 at this time. Industry testing just means 'from the manufacturer'. Wait for the independent tests to come out.
Any Landcruiser drivers out there with the 4.7 who can shed some light on this?
broke down and ordered a F150.
I was looking at the Toyota Tundra, but didn't
like Toyota's attitude with regards to discounting
off the sticker or building to a customer's wishes.
So....on April 29 I ordered an F150 in Harvest
Gold Metallic with a Wedgewood blue lower with the
4.6 V8, automatic transmission, cloth captain's
chairs, premium sound with CD, P255 LT tires with
aluminum alloty wheels, keyless entry, sliding rear window, AC, cruise, power door locks, windows, mirrors, so on and so forth.
As soon as it arrives, it's getting a Leonard 1200 series fibergalss cover to match the body and Line-X will be applied to the bed up to the rails.
I really want to thank you all for your comments.
By reading your comments, I felt I made the right
decision.
How many more they did not put in to cut a few
ponds so that the accelaration can look good?
What a joke.
A lock up automatic transmission has a clutch which locks the torque convertor into 100% direct drive during light acceleration and cruising, which completely eliminates slippage. The reason for this is to provide better mileage, since RPMs will be lower.
I think that Toyota has developed a pickup for the city dweller who does not mind getting dirty for fun.
Toyota may at some point expand the line to even larger, heavier trucks, or offer more possible configurations. Right now they are concentrating on getting their foot in this lucrative market. The Tundra is no T-100. The Big Three had better take this one seriously.
And thats crap about GM and profits!! Toyota is out to MAKE MONEY just the same. When it comes to unethical business practice, Japanese companies lead the way with price-dumping and other creative schemes to drive out the competition.
Toyota fans are always championing quality and reliability. They may have a point when compared to some domestic make cars, but I own a Ford truck and these are execellent vehicles. Ford has earned it's top market share and I woulden't trade my F150 for anything. Super Truck!
Or are they only referring to the Camry?
Greg Hoppes
And you are right. Much has been written about quality issues in the different conferences. There is a large body of knowledge and opinion on Silverados. Yes, Chevy still needs to get better on quality control. And Chevy is still a notch or two below Toyota in your mind, at least.
But at this point, there are no quality/reliability issues concerning the Tundra because there are so few owners to share knowledge with. Give it some time. You can be one of the first, as I'm sure this banter is securing your order for Toyota.
But remember this, when a Toyota actually delivers tangible benefits, not perceived ones over the domestic brands, they will achieve the market share they deserve, just as they did in the '70s for producing fuel efficient cars when American drivers needed them.
Greg Hoppes