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Hell, I was sure they weren't even going to offer an eight.
Convincing the other 99% of the world that CR is a good reason to buy Tundra is about as big a dream as thinking Tundra can compete with the big 3.
How many times have we had to put up with the words relaible and Tundra in the same sentence.
Now I know that I am a brain dead imbecile because I bought a Dodge, but please explain how a company that launched a completely new vehicle in June has proved its reliability.
Or is it just - its a Toyota, of course its reliable.
When your trucks have been around for a while then we will see how reliable they are - if you and others find it necessary to tell everyone how reliable their teuck is so often it doesn't say much for it does it - just listen to yourselves - I've got a Tundra, its 4 months old and you wouldn't believe how reliable it is.
Oh well, why am I even bothering to respond to you? You are the one with the Dodge! That's your problem, not mine. Enjoy it while it lasts. As for Tundra people mentioning reliability often. I believe it is done in the Tundra topics. It is not done on the Dodge or Chevy boards. I guess you haven't picked up on that yet because you LIVE in the Tundra topics. If you are tired of the Tundra....go to another topic. There are plenty to choose from that have absolutely nothing to do with the Tundra. Until then, get used to the Toyota's reliabilty. I know I have. It is wonderful. Maybe you can move up to a Tundra for you next vehicle instead of dreaming about that GM! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Let me ask you a question. If Toyota's drivetrain is so damn wonderful why did you let them rip you off with the cost of an extended warranty - the cost was part of the price of your truck - to use you words - surely you can even understand this.
The truck has a good engine, show me one place that I have denied this - though yes I would laugh if one of those "tweaks" went wrong, just to see your reaction.
Enjoying my Dodge, yes thank you I am. My truck is wonderful, couldn't be happier. As for not visiting and posting in other topics, well I think you have just told us a lot about you. Those people who, obviously unlike you, visit a wide range of topics here will recognise my name from any number of topics that have absolutely nothing to do with toy trucks.
If you don't believe me I can give you a list where my posts can be found, but its a long list and I don't want to bore all those other 'invaders' in this topic who don't realise that any topic that is vaguely related to Tundra is the exclusive property of owners of the wannabe truck.
I do frequent several topics. I just choose to let people enjoy the trucks they own and not spew moronic hatred towards Dodge in a Dodge topic or towards Chevy in a Chevy topic. The key is keeping my thoughts on the Tundra and other vehicles confined to the Tundra boards. I would never go to the Dodge board to berate the Dodge. However, I won't hesitate to do it here or in a "Tundra only" topic where "jerkish" Dodge or Chevy owners spew lies and garbage. I have owned those brands and they are only problems waiting to happen. That is my opinion...based on fact. I owned these vehicles in my younger days...fortunately, I grew out of it. Maybe you will, too.
As far as thinking this topic is exclusive to the Tundra, I don't think this one is. However, you don't confine your comments to this topic. You can be found in ALL Tundra topics. I think it is childish of you to do this. What purpose does it serve?
I have noticed that you tend to argue with lots of folks. This tells me alot about you! I just can't say it here. Don't want to violate any rules.
Remember, no matter what your response is, I win. See, you will still own the Dodge and I'll still own the Toyota. Give it up.
You are right I do visit some Tundra topics, not all, and I don't see that as the crime you do. Posted to one of them yesterday, and got the thanks of one of your less bigoted fellow Tundra owners for doing so.
If you look at some of the strings that I am involved in you will see I don't "spew lies", what invariably happens is what is happening here - I get accused (like with the engines bit), I respond perfectly reasonably (like I said - I've never knocked Toyota engines), and then the comeback forgets completely about that point and accuses me of something else entirely - just like your last post.
Your logic is infallible regarding buying a Toyota - you had problems with the big 3 so you don't buy them, I applaud you. No, I am not being sarcastic, if you have problems then you are less likely to buy again, agreed. I do have a hard time though with the extension of that logic - I had problems with (for instance) Dodge, therefore all Dodge trucks are crap.
You think that you 'win' (whatever that means), because you drive a Toyota, I am glad. I am happy with my choice and can not imagine a time where I would ever be happy with a Toyota truck. Not because it's a Toyota, because I don't perceive it to meet my needs.
If it meets your needs that's wonderful - its called choice. You and I will never agree, the difference is I avoid vitriolic statements like 'I win because I drive a Toyota'. This all started because you didn't like mys posts 388 and 390. These posts did not quote opinions, just facts - that the Tacoma is unsafe in side impact collisions. This has been proved by federally approved tests.
I never said your visits to the Tundra sites are crimes. I just have a problem with you bashing Tundras in the Tundra topic. Why do you feel the need to do that? It is childish...period.
As far as the engine comment goes. You questioned the Tundra's reliability because it's new. I said the biggest repair costs for a vehicle involves engines and trannies. I guess you were referring to the radio buttons when you were referring to the Tundra's reliability.
If you price Silverados, Rams, F150s, and Sierras, you'll find the prices are pretty much the same. The Tundra has a longer warranty for essentially the same money. I guess this escapes you. I've read alot of your posts and realize your logic doesn't always hold water. You are not always "reasonable" either.
As for the bigotry remark, that is absurd. I could never be mistaken for a bigot. You better try another name for me. Bigot doesn't fit.
I'll say it again, I own a Tundra. You own a Dodge. You can't win a truck argument with me. Plain and simple. Keep dreaming of that GMC!
I guess I too can't have an intelligent debate with you by your measure, since Toyota reliability has been "granted" to the Tundra, not earned. I wonder how many of those reliable Tacomas would still be on the road if the owners themselves had to pay for all those recalled, head gasket repairs. Something must be keeping the service department garage doors open. If it isn't broken cars and trucks, maybe free coffee?
As for your point about the Tundra engine and drivetrain being the same as the Lexus and Land Cruiser with some tweaks? Last time I drove one, the LS400 was completely different, with variable valve timing, 5 speed auto, different block, bores, etc.
You say we're missing your point on the Tacoma side impact ratings. I'm trying very hard to understand what your point is! Are you now saying that CR would lie about the Tacoma's safety unless our goverment beauracrats hadn't forced their hand?
But why not harp on the head gasket? I'm really very glad Toyota USA paid for those repairs.
But since they do, it's very fair to point out it's a very inferior engine design, unattended could leave you stranded in the Mojave within 60,000 miles.
And you have to wonder the same thing about the Tundra, what with a rubber belt all that's separating your 32 valve head from a very expensive collision with the piston tops. That belt isn't going to last as long as the rest of the engine, unless it breaks.
But one thing I can assure you, if customer service is the subject, I don't have to dream about it. I think it's fine the Toyota service department is open Saturdays to change your oil and serve you donuts. But the real service heros for Toyota are Federal Express and UPS next day Air, because parts distribution is a hoax compared to the local availability and multiple sources of Motorcraft, Mopar, AC Delco, Dana, Spicer, NAPA, Fed Mogul, etc.
This is not a tundra topic so let's not make like it is. The buyers of domestic trucks are in the majority on the road and on the boards. There are reasons for this. The general population is not all ignorant.
Speaking of this taken for granted toyota reliabilty, lets look at the tercel. If they wanted to have people associate toyota with reliability then they should never have marketed a car that cannot be repaired. The list of repairs on this car (my mothers') far exceeds the cost of the car and several independet mechanics as well as toyota admits that there is nothing that can be done about the carburators on these cars as they cannot be rebuilt and they are faulty by design. They have not made available any replacement. I guess just not as many people have this problem as the famous head gasket and a little bad press they can just put off as insignificant low end customers.
You must have been studying reading comprehension with Quadrunner(or is that RUBLUETOO? I always wondered.). I never said or indicated that THIS topic is a Tundra only topic. READ AGAIN!!!!!!
Thanks for the input on the Tercel. I won't be buying one now. I was so close, too! You are right. Nobody would ever associate Toyota with reliabilty. Dodge always comes to mind!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
70' T birds. Chrys. there whole line-up from 74 to 89 sucked. These are just a few of there problems I don't have the time to list them all. As for the rust problem with Toyota in the 80's Toyota like ALL OTHER MAKES used recycled metal to cut costs, hence the rust. In 1992 Toyota went to all new steel construction and pvc sealer over every weld and seam unlike gm, ford and chrys.. They still use junk metal and have no sealer around any of there welds or seams. Toyota also uses stainless steel exhaust, a built in safety cage in the roof and DOHC on all it's cars and truck's unlike the U.S three. Oh! Remember the Tundra is built in the states unlike the U.S auto makers trucks. They build most of there trucks in Canada and Mexico. So Americans give yourself a hand you build on heck of a quality truck, the Tundra that is. Thank you from every Canadian who owns one of these fine trucks.
I'm pretty sure the Tundra V8 does use a belt to drive the cam shafts. This is a good thing in my opinion, if they are properly maintained. In another post, I remember that someone checked their recommended timing belt replacement interval, and they stated that the manual recommended replacement every 90,000 miles.
teagan- There isn't a fix on the tercel carbs according to SEVERAL chicago area dealers. Replacement is the only option knowing full well that the part WILL fail again. I know that you are not interested in tercels. It was merely an example that toyota doesn't always make quality, reliable cars. Nor do they always make right by the customer.
Why are you bringing up cars from the '70s and '80s? Why are you talking about cars at all. My point on the tercel was only to make a point about toyota in general and I will freely admit that every one of the carmakers have produced bad cars. It seems that the toyota owners seem to have a problem admitting ANY shortcomings.
Now go climb in the back seat of your tundra and explain this again and give all a good laugh.
YOU brought up the car, not me.
And while I'm home with mommy this Thanksgiving, I'll be giving thanks that you bought a Dodge instead of me.
Here's a silver lining for you: As each day passes, you're closer to your next vehicle!! Next time, maybe you'll use some common sense and buy a Toyota, or a Chevy, or a Ford. Anything other than a Dodge. LOL!!!!!!!!!
18 months(at best) is pretty good for a compressor. You should be proud!
I too will be thankful this thanksgiving that I drive a doge instead of a toyota.
There have been a number of earlier posts that have been made that stated that this is a tundra topic. They did not say tundra only, but it sure was implied.
The toyota trucks of the 70s and 80s were well known for rusting out far faster than thier competion whether it be foregn or domestic. The toyota truck that I owned was purchased two years old and it had rust on it. By the time I sopld it I was thankful the body stayed on while the new owner drove away.
I've said it before on this topic and on others that the tundra isn't a bad truck just mis-classed. There is nothing wrong with that unless you paid for a full sized truck.
Two Dodge truck in two years....you da man!!!!
Until you have experienced it, you don't know what you're missing. You will learn sooner or later.
The Tundra engine does not have the variable valve timing. And since you erroneously reported that the overhead cams are driven by chains, not belts, I have to ask myself why I even bother.
Rwellbaum2,
Why don't you call your dealer, and get a quote, parts and labor, to replace the camshaft drive belt, and post the result here. I dare 'ya.
I Force = "I" wish it wasn't a Toyota!