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Steve.
the diesel does not include the correct front suspension for plowing. The snow plow group includes different springs that are higher-rated than standard.
Rams come from one of four plants:
Warren Michigan
Fenton Missouri
Saltillo Mexico
Lago Alberto Mexico
There is no way to specify whcih plant will build your truuck - when an order is placed into the computer system by DaimlerChrysler ((or any manufacturer, for that matter), the next available plant that builds that model gets the job.
Ed
It's still amazing that Dodge is the smallest of the three and moved out half as many Fords. I wonder how small Dodge is compared to Ford. I don't think that we are anywhere near half their size.
Trex, I'm writing back to you tonight. I haven't had the time.
Matt D
If you add up all Ford sales, Dodge is much smaller than 1/2 of Ford. I think Dodge is making big stride on their cars and trucks, at least style-wise.
How long does it usually take to get a build date and delivery date on a truck order? The order was placed on 1/4. A friend of mine placed an order (Ford) on 12/29 and already has a definite delivery date.
You: save money on the starting price, they are not as noisy, gas mileage is lower but the gas is cheaper, the lifespan is less but how long were you going to keep the thing anyway.
To break even with a V-10 you have to drive the Diesel for at least 140 KMI.
Ladyblue, You put in the order just after Christmas break for the UAW. I would thing that 6-8 weeks is an average time for a big dealer, 8-10 for a smaller one. Chrysler does give an ESD (Estimated Ship Date), call up your salesperson and ask if he/she could run a function (94 or 84) on the dial network.
Matt D
The 3/4 ton equipped with the 24 valve cummins, and the 5 speed trans will pull 14,200 lbs
Tha 3/4 ton equipped with the v-10 and the 5 speed trans will pull 13,400 lbs....right outta the Dodge manual.......AND lets say for arguments sake that Gas is $1.00 a gallon and diesel is $1.25...you will get maybe between 10-14 mpg in the v-10 and will get 18-24 mpg in the diesel....so in the long run which is really cheaper???? and as far as breaking even?? when you do hit 140k miles your v-10 will be close to done and your diesel will be halfway to its FIRST rebuild..... and who is going to keep it that long anyways?...I'll tell ya...all the people who are buying cummins are......T REX
I've been around industrial service pickups my whole life and there are only 2 trucks that I can remember right now off the top of my head that needed motor rebuilds were both one ton Chevys in good shape with 350's that had between 250K and 300K miles on them. Most of the time the truck has fallen apart before the engines get ready to croak.
the industrial sector may see the need for a rebuild, but personal owners: practically never.
Also I found a 94' cummins diesel reg cab, 2500 4x4 SLT, with only 48000km, The used car dealer is asking $24,900cdn, for the truck, is it a good deal. I could probably talk him down to 22,23k.
The truck looks great, has running boards, and a very clean interior. It is a automatic.
The cummins diesel is great for snow plowing if your diesel fuel is in good shape for cold temperatures. That is, it flows like a liquid, not like a gel. Red flags are raised for me about that truck you describe. A '94 with only 30,000 miles seems very low. How do you think it ended up on a used car dealer lot? I dunno. I think I would try to get a title search. As for the price, about $15,000 US, well it could be okay, but it depends on the truck. I would look it over for frame damage from the bottom, if you can crawl under it. Look for crash damage around the seams and welds, or paint overspray. The seats and interior should be nearly new if things add up right. I don't know how you judge the condition of the diesal engine, except to look for other items that could be a clue to fraud elsewhere. On the other hand, if it checks out well mechanically, it could be a good deal even if it was overpriced a bit. (Not saying it is.)
How much power does the 94' cummins have. Are they as well insulated for noise in the cab as to more of a current one?
dodgeram...I dont know if this helps but we did an off-site sale day after christmas and we took in trade a 93 3500 dually ex-cab automatic, fully loaded up cummins that had 29k original miles on it and was immaculate and it sold for 16,999 so I can only say that there are a lot of diesels out there that are actually in good shape even for ones that are 6 or 7 years old so go check it out you just might score..... T REX
I'm surprised - you should know better!! The Cummins is detuned substantially with an automatic, while the V10 has the same power and torque ratings regardless of transmission.
I pulled some other people in on this debate here at Melloy. It helped to break up the monotiny of the day.
P.S. Do you like dealing with back seat teckies
Matt D
Cummins w/ manual:
235hp@2700rpm, 460lb-ft@1600-2700rpm
Cummins w/ auto:
215hp@2700rpm, 420lb-ft@1600-2700rpm
the six speed manual transmission to the current generation ram trucks, however they are bringing a six speed automatic that is built by allison. It will be avaiable in the next two months or so. It's almost a done deal, just have to wait for the official announcment. Go to www.car-truck.com for more details.
This question goes to show how complicated our job can get at times. It's always good to check in a book to make sure that the unit can do what a customer demands. To say that a Diesel is better or worse than a V-10 depends on what trans. they want.
The best thing about this board is the fact that we talk about our product. Probably one out of 200 people would ever ask the question that I did. I posed it because I knew that it was a tough one to answer.
BTW: Someone wrote to me about a month ago, animate about the availability of the 6 spd. He swore that it would be out in Jan.
Matt D
My dealer says 6 speed manual and limited slip not on hold. WWW.Wheels.com says 6 speed on hold until Jan 25 and limited slip on hold until March. Do you have any info.
Thanks,
Ed
I another customer I ran into at a dealership said I would have trouble selling a 2x4. What do you think?
This will be my first new car/truck purchase. I'm leaning toward the 5.2L V8. I will only occasionally need to haul things. Can I get by w/ the 3.9L?
I'd appreciate your advice.
If you are leaning toward the 5.2L, go for it because I doubt you'll be happy if you don't. Sure you can get by with the 3.9L but sometime in the future, you will wish you had gotten the 5.2L. Where in CO do you live? The friends I have that live there have said they couldn't get by in the winter without 4x4 and won't as long as they live there. This is probably the reason you would have trouble selling a 2x4 later.
I live in Denver. I work about 9 blocks from work. Quite a few of the folks at work are urging the 4x4, but I'm feeling that if the roads are that bad, I don't need to be out.
The resale thing is less of an issue since I plan on keeping the truck until it dies.
I was quoted $19,400 for the 2x4, extended cab, automatic, w/ a/c this morning. I haven't had a chance to compare to the prices listed here, but will do so later.
Anyway, I appreciate your input.
You may also want to wait until late summer, when the 2000 dakota comes out with the all new 4.7l v8
mated to a 4spd tranny also all new. They maade this tranny just for this powerplant. it has many advantages, like 2 second gears, and a reverse gear that is just the same as first gear, so you get maximum reversing power. Also four full dorrs if you want it. It also gets better gas milage.
P.S Currently in the new grand cheroke. Go drive one of those to see if you like the 4.7lv8.
Didn't mean to confuse you. My only point was that if you were leaning toward the 5.2L V8, the less power of the 3.9L might someday make you wish you had gotten the 5.2L and then it will be too late. 99% of us could certainly get by with a smaller engine in our trucks, its simply a matter of desire. Living only 9 blocks from work in Denver, I would say go ahead for the 2 wheel drive also. If you don't leave Denver very often for driving in bad conditions, 4x4 really wouldn't be worth it. Dodgeram also had a good idea about waiting for the 4.7LV8.
First, thanks for taking the time to respond to all of these questions. Just about all of the dealers I've encountered couldn't tell the difference between a Dodge truck and a Tonka truck. I'm looking to buy my first truck, and I'm behind the power curve on trucks. This forum is really helping get smart.
I'm looking at buying a '99 Dakota, V6, manual. I test drove one this evening. I could sense the transmission slip a bit after the clutch was fully released. I also noticed a lot of vibration being translated to the stick. It just wasn't a very smooth ride. The dealer said that was common for new V6 engines and that after 5000 miles it would settle out. Well, I'm not dropping 20 grand on something like that without verification. So, your insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
DP