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good choice and good luck with your new Bimmer
Is anyone doing Euro Delivery on the '06? I'd be curious about what sorts of deals people are getting relative to Euro invoice. We bought a 2001 330i at $1300 over (Euro invoice), and would like to know if similar deals are available today on the E60. BTW, we're shopping for a 530xiT with 6-spd manual. Possible options would be sport package, leather, and rear window shades. Will be looking to take delivery in Germany next summer to coincide with WC2006! Thanks.
of the titanium gray for me is the fact that it is unique. I've never seen one
on the road. In my area there are only two colors on the road, silver and black.
I saw a new 6 at the dealership in a beautiful gray, I forget the name.
When I told the salesman, that's the color I want, he pointed out that it too,
had some other funky tints in the sunlight. I guess it's good advice to all
considering any of the metallic, make sure you see the car in all lighting
before deciding.
This is my first BMW so I'll stop obsessing and focus on being out-of-my-mind
excited to get it! Wishing you good luck and good deal on your next one.
I decided to nix the leasing deal I was considering and buy/order a new (my first BMW) 530 2006 with a MSRP of ~$50,000. So I asked the dealer what his invoice was and he said, what does that have to do with anything? I knew the invoice but I wanted to confirm it with him to make sure he would not throw on some junk prep cost.
I asked him then how much he wanted for the car? he said $50,000 - or MSRP!!
I did a double take and looked around to make sure I was in the BMW dealership and not a Ferrari dealership. If it was a Ferrari, I would have been ecstatic at that offer.
I then got up and starting to walk out. Then the sales manager came out and got me back to the salesman's desk. "What can I do to make you happy and get this deal done?". I said $1500 over invoice.
Needless to say, I ended up leaving and now I am wondering if all BMW dealers are like this one.
It appears that these 530 BMW's are as hot as Internet stocks in 1999.
How long before these dealers start asking for MSRP +++ ??
2006 - 530i w/ sports package with Navigation. The tax and dmv fees come out around 9% of the value so the price of around 52,200.
I like to know if anyone else got a better deal??
Thanks.
This was the first time I'd heard that.
Have my numbers been wrong all this time?
Here are the numbers Edmunds shows:
Base: 46500
Auto Trans: 1275
Sports: 2300
Navigation: 1800
Premium: 1800
Destination: 695
MSRP = 54370 (Invoice: 49845)
(I'm assuming it had the premium package, because I've been told and it seems logical that there aren't any 530i coming off the boat without it.)
scottlow; i had heard there are no discounts given yet to the 06 models. but 2 dealers that i had been negotiating with for an 05 a few weeks back, sent me emails last week out of the blue, saying if i wanted i can get an 06 for 1500 over invoice. again; this was totally unsolicited by me, they were the ones that offered it.
depends where youre located i guess. if youre in the nyc area, i can recommend dealers for both of you. difeo and rallye both offered 1500 over invoice on any 06 that i wanted without me even asking. and manhattan and westchester both didnt mark up the MF...maybe because they are owned by BMWNA.
good luck to both of you.
It is always a better deal to make the security deposit and keep the base rate..
regards,
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MSRP was 52665. I paid 49720 + tax, or 52703 out the door. All other fees and MACO were included in final price. I got this price because I am in the new car dealership business - so he did me a favor as I would do for him if he was buying a car from me.
I would say you got an EXCELLENT deal on an 06. Most of the dealers around here are selling them for MSRP - remember, this is an 06 and they just came out.
Enjoy your new 530i - I sure am!
I am certain that the car did not included Premium Package or Prmium Sound Package or Satellite Radio....only thing I was getting was Sports Package, Navigation and Automatic Transmission. 58K out the door.
hihomike enjoy your ride...i know mine was awesome for that 10mins of test drive. Maybe I'll wait little longer until I can get a deal like yours or maybe your buddy can offer me the same deal.
Thanks.
Regarding jakethesnake's deal, if his car does only have SP, NAV, and AUTO, then at $52,200, it works out to $4,065 over invoice, or $370 below MSRP. While there are regional differences in pricing, I would be surprised if they amounted to this much, and each region in this case (NY vs. LA) is a major metropolis, making similarities more likely than differences. Finally, a car with NAV and AUTO that lacks PP would IMO be harder to move (meaning that a dealer could be more willing to discount). Most buyers who opt for these two features would pay the extra bucks and want leather.
No word yet though from anyone on Euro Delivery pricing relative to invoice?
As for the pricing of a new 530i, the first dealer I went to for my new 06 530i wanted me to pay MSRP! After all, it's a brand new vehicle - and an 06 for that matter. The second dealer I went to offered me 2500 over invoice. I finally found a dealer about 30 miles away willing to do me a favor - one sales manager to another. This is why I feel that jakethesnake's deal on a 530i is outstanding, assuming the 530i he is interested in has premium package along with the other goodies.
Good luck.
Not sure if I'am allowed to attach a link but here it is:
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/pricing.aspx?modelid=11608&src=GBT
An you get me the names/locations of those dealers that did the $1500 over invoice? I am in PA area only 90 min from NY.
Sounds good. I hope your right and there was no trade-in that allowed the dealer to do the +$1500 deal. I am buying with no trade. So I will be dealing on just the price of the car.
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I did not know all of this.
But petp was offerring to pass along some dealer names. I thought posting dealer names was a violation. So I thought sending them via email was allowed.
I do not care about spam. I like spam!! jUST KIDDING. It would be yahoo's problem anyway.
With the new forum rules, I cannot post my sales associate's name, which is unfortunate. Perhaps our host can shed some light on the reasons behind the new policy; it would be timely given his/her post about not e-mailing details in private. If the forum prohibits key information to be shared, such as a specific person to contact in order to get a deal without any runaround, then the rules are forcing people to go the private e-mail route. Back in 2001, I found my dealer and sales associate through an internet forum (not Edmunds). I was referred to him by name and was told to ask for the exact same deal (relative to price over invoice) he gave to his other customer. When I did this and told him how I found his contact info and what sorts of deals he was offering, he was pleasantly surprised and willingly offered the same terms to me. I then posted this info here on the Edmunds forum and I know that several users benefited from it and some people even bought cars from the same person. I had no vested interest in having that particular sales associate or dealer get any additional business, but was just trying to help out other prospective buyers in the same way that I was helped out. Isn't that the whole point?
I am heading to MD next week to work. I just called passport and asked them for 1500 over invoice. They took my request and are getting back to me in this afternoon.
I will soon see if they really did a 1500 over invoice.
I called another dealer and he said 1500 over HIS cost would be ok. His cost included 400 prep charge. JUNK! But 1900 over invoice in still better than the MSRP offers.
the passport info was a hoax.
They are pretty well known for reasonable deals... Patience is sometimes rewarded....
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No thanks. Looks like that was some bad info as well.
However, passport in MD will do $1500 over invoice. Spoke with sales manager. Will be going down next week. Have to order. Nothing on lot.
On what grounds are you basing your statement "the passport info was a hoax?" I said that I bought a car from a Maryland dealer 4 years ago for ED on a 3-series at $1300 over Euro invoice. You then asked me who that dealer was and I told you Passport. Then you call them today and ask for $1500 over invoice (you didn't say if it was for ED or not) on a 5-series I presume, they don't give an immediate reply to your inquiry, and you suggest that my original statement was a hoax??
Give some thought to what you write before posting.
Some honest dealers are saying that invoice prices of $47-48K on the internet are not realistic.
Wow!!!! and I thought I would never see the day when Dealers' are telling the truth... :P
So far only one dealer has confirmed that their invoice price is around $47K althought they want close to $4-5K over the invoice...
it came to about 54k w/tax title lic, the options i added are:
the ext warrenty (~2000 i think), nav, zenon (was an ~$800 option for '04s), HUD, auto,
I sometimes regret not getting the sports pkg, but it's fast as it is already; i wished they'd sell the dynamic drive separately. There's definitely room for negotiation, the sales rep treated us rudely, but i went back to speak directly with the manager and was able to leverage that and get a nice price.
If you want to save some money and dont need a lot of power, try the 05 525 (it has a 3.0 L 215hp engine now), pass on the premium to save $1800 and get navi and HUD instead. With HUD i don't ever look down at the meter anymore, it's all projected on to the windshield, even navi instructions!
Dealor tried to convince me that without prem pkg the car won't re-sell well, but i won't ever notice a diff between leather and letherette. I wanted navi and HUD because they're things that i can use.
A good feature with the bluetooth upgrade that i got was the ability to dial directly to restaurants that you find on your nav, it was a treat when i used it to make reservations.
Do you think if I walk in dealership with this paper and they'll still deny-it saying someone just made it up and it's not for real... :confuse:
Of course, when BMW released the prices (which matched the prices that you downloaded), my CA used different numbers. I confronted him and he initially claimed that I was using "made up" prices. Eventually, he realized I was correct but would not honor the deal. I, immediately, cancelled the purchase order and went with a more reputable dealer who told me my experience was VERY COMMON in So. Cal.
So, my advice: If you're having trouble with one particular CA, go somewhere else. It is extremely easy to negotiate over the phone or internet. Pick up or courtesy delivery is also easy. For some people, the spent time is not worth the effort, but I happen to enjoy it. Regardless, I will never purchase or service from dealer #1. I will ALWAYS purchase my BMW's through dealer #2, because of his honesty. Unfortunately, he is too far for servicing.
Good luck.
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2005 545i
Sports Package
Cold Weather
Premium Sound
Sirius Satellite
Split fold seats
Navigation
I got it for $60,770...has anybody done better than this?
Dealership #2 - Santa Barbara BMW; Santa Barbara, CA; the best.
I was offered the following for European Delivery:
2006 525Xi with ZPP, ZCW, AT for $42K. Is this a good deal?
I've seen several posts that refer to invoice prices. Where are the people getting these prices from|? I followed the suggestions of one of the posts and checked http://e60.net/ it indicates MSRP of $40,920 and Confidential Wholesale Price of $36, 830 this means that the dealer is making approx $600 on the base price of the car.
Also, what are the lead times for ED pickup these days? I'd love to hear from someone that has done this recently.
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Your car as configured has a Euro invoice price of $41,240. If your dealer is willing to sell it to you for $42,000, then I'd say you've got a smoking deal, at only $760 over Euro invoice! This is by far the best deal I have ever seen. Please let us know the dealer.
Just want to say that Shelly BMW is in Buena Park, CA near Knotts Berry Farm and not Buena Vista, CA.
I did speak with somone at Shelly BMW and they wanted around $58K+ out the door for 2006-530i with Prem Pkg, Prem Sound Pkg, Sports Pkg, and Navigation.
They were in no mood to negotiate and quickly hung-up the phone.
The general rule: Order car @ least 6 weeks ahead of time. (most people are getting early July dates for pickup) Your CA will give you a pickup date within 2-3 days of ordering the car. Search for plane tickets/ plan vacation. You will receive a production number - can track your car on owner's circle (although not very reliable website). 14 days before pickup - pay dealer. Picku - and have a rockin' time. Dropoff car at Harms dropoff locations throughout Europe. If leaving in Germany, expect 4 weeks till return stateside on the east coast and eight weeks if west coast.
For me, order 525i 3/1/05, pickup 5/2/05, dropoff 5/4/05 (short trip), awaiting redelivery, eta 7/1/05. (west coast)
I strongly suggest you search other bimmer forums. There is one excellent forum that has a devoted european delivery section. you will find all your answers there. The forum you referred to is wonderful especially for international flare, but there's a better one for ED. I'm not allowed to post it's name per hosts.
good luck and congratulations.
You will LOVE ED! It was the best European trip and best experience I ever had. I will always and only (unless I buy an x5) do ED. By the way, order the navigation system! It will make your ED trip much more pleasant.
good luck.
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BMW says 0-60 perf for 2006 525i is 7.6 secs for 525Xi it is 8.2 secs! What's the expert opinion out there on this? Isn't really slow? Is it worth the extra $4K to upgrade to the 530Xi?