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(1) Caravan. People who travel alot and carry alot of stuff love these things, especially older people. Why? They are easy to get in and out of. You sit up high and they are designed well for easy entry/exit. They are designed to minimize bending over. If you tend to have a sore beck, then you'll like the Caravan. You can get them with fully electric doors and shelves in the back. This auto is a favorite of retirees that I know. You can fit a ton of stuff in it.
(2) Durango. I have never driven the new model. It looks huge and offers some of the advantages of the Caravan, but is more "heavy duty" and optimized for towing and/or rougher terrain. It certainly will cost more to operate and maintain than a Caravan. I think the Durango is harder to drive and park than a Caravan.
(3) Magnum. (I own an Rt AWD.) Least roomy of the 3. It has very comfortable seats, but I suspect an arthritic type would prefer getting in and out the Caravan. You get the best performance, handling, from the Magnum. As you have discovered the Magnum has enough leg room for legs of your size.
Here's my assessment and I'd love to hear if you agree after renting all three.
A. Entry/Exit/Access: (1) Caravan, (2) Magnum, (3) Durango
B. Economics: (1) Magnum 3.5, (2) Caravan, (3) Durango
C. Utility: (1) Durango, (2) Caravan, (3) Magnum
D. Performance/Handling: (1) Magnum, (2) Caravan, (3) Durango
Enjoy
Of course, the problem does exist that the factory is walking the line between supply and demand. Customers can go cold while they are waiting for the car to arrive. If it happens too much...more supply than demand. I remember a 7 month wait for the early PT Cruiser.
What do you mean a 7 month wait for a PT Cruiser? That's simply unbelievable. It is not a mercedes, bmw, ferrarri or something. You are right I have gone somewhat cold waiting on the Dodge Magnum and started looking at a 2005 midsize suv from nissan. They wait too much longer I might be riding in a 2005 pathfinder with 7 seats fully loaded for the same price of a fully loaded Dodge Magnum RT. Jglacking, how long are you willing to wait for yours like until the end of time or something? That was supposed to be a joke. I was watching Monster Garage on Discovery Channel doing aftermarket add ons to a Rt Magnum. It was very impressive. They gave the magnum bigger tires with nicer rims, a designer paint job, and the engine growled instead purring like a kitten. I am deeply considering waiting till Dodge kicks in those down payment type rebates for the Magnum RT next year. I think by the fall or summer the magnum will probably have like 5000 dollars rebates on them like the trucks. That's just my opinion.
I agree, the Discovery Channel show was very cool. To answer your question about how long I would wait...I don't know. If I really wanted the car, I think that 6 months may be my threshold of tolerance - but everyone is different.
Well jglackin, I must say you are a very patient person. I am patiently waiting on a mineral gray until I found out they were not making that color anymore during discussions. I think I will go by the dealership and find out. There was a silver magnum rt at the dealership. I might just buy that one. It was loaded like the one I ordered except a different color. If I do get it I will probably wait a little while before I do aftermarket add ons. I will definitely want to put different tires on it and exhaust pipes to hear the roar of the engine. I wish they had gave a remote control trunk release. The silver r/t is rear wheel drive. In the south there is not much need for an all wheel drive. We normally use a truck or suv to go into the areas that aren't really meant for a car. If you get a chance check out the new pathfinder I still love the magnum r/t. I don't let it show when I am at dealership. They won't negotiate too much If I let them know I love the car.What kind of aftermarket add ons are you thinking about for the magnum? Maybe a spoiler, bigger speakers, bigger tires, or making it a convertible might be some ideas you are considering for after market add ons. You know somebody wrote in their post they boosted the power of the magnum r/t to 375 horses and getting 27 miles to a gallon. I would like some documentation on how they did it and maybe they should send it to Dodge.
You're right about the M.Gray being discontinued. Go to your dealer and check on the status of your Magnum. If it got pulled for build before the paint was dropped, you're okay. Once a paint or option gets dropped, you can't configured an order with it anymore.
Good Luck.
kcram
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I agree with earlier posters about seeting comfort - excellent, best ever for me. I also agree about ensitivity to crowns in the road. The car will veer due to road crowns or ruts probably more than any other car I've driven lately. I gotta admit I don't like that much.
I love the Hemi, ESP, and AWD. But I'm getting pathetic gas mileage so far. Worse than my 2001 4-wheel drive Dodge Dakota (4.7L V8). I'm getting about 13 city/17 hwy mpg and taking it easy. I'm in Colorado Springs at 6000 feet so I wasn't expecting to get 17/24, but I was hoping to do better than the truck, not worse. I'm wondering if the multi-displacement system even does anything at this altitude.
I love the looks. Mine is Mineral Gray. Just awsome. I have the luggage rack and the cross bars remove easily when not in use. The manual says removing them will reduce wind noise, but they cause very little wind noise so most people won't bother removing them like I do.
Back window get dirty easily, like most wagons. Back window wiper clears a small patch, but rear visibility is poor as most would agree. But I'm used to even worse after driving a truck with a cab on it for the last few years.
I had the Dodge dealer intall the Sirius radio kit right after I bought it and was pleasantly surprised that Sirius gave me 1 year free as if the Sirius kit had come with the car. But I'm unpleasantly surprised at the poor sound quality of Sirius. The culprit is probably Sirius because FM and CD, MP3's, WMA's sound fantastic. Sirius provides roughly AM quality in my book, though others claim "near CD quality". No way. So if you have to have CD quality don't bother getting Sirius radio.
Everything people are saying that is great about this car is true. It really is a dream car for me, exactly what I've been hoping for years DC would build. I love it.
As for the crappy mileage, I don't have a Magnum, but it's not uncommon for mileage to improve after a break-in period.
Anyway, anyone change out the mufflers yet to sound off the Hemi? If so, what did you use?
1. Does anyone have a link to a good picture showing the stock wheels on a AWD RT? From what I have seen on-line (dodge site which stinks) the wheels don't look as good.
2. Will the RWD RT wheels fit on the AWD? I am assuming so, but if anyone knows for sure that would be fantastic. Thanks.
I prefer the 18" AWD wheels as they resemble a more "machined" appearance. Our Magnum will be custom-painted to match a Milwaukee Road locomotive from the 1970s: black/orange/black with emblems, heralds and "number boards". Our pre-ordered California license plates read "MILW RR".
And definitely worth waiting for!
AWD for cross-country driving this Spring.
Damn ugly AWD wheels...
Deke
You can find the dealer on ebay they will even pick you up at the local airport.
ebayer is stevewhitemotors
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On a side note read on the FX forum where they were having trouble in snow even with AWD. All I've read about the RT AWD is that it will be superb in the inclement weather. I was considering the FX or the SRX. I couldn't get past the ride on the FX and I couldn't get past the exterior styling of the SRX.
The Shadow