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Chevy TrailBlazer Transmission Problems
I have a 2002 Trailblazer 4WD. I'm having a problem with the transmission starting off in the wrong gear. This problem is very intermittent, and occurs usually on a cold start. When I start the car it revs extremely loud and fast, and even if I allow the car to warm up for over one minute, the revving goes on higher than normal. Then, when I put the vehicle in drive, it bogs down in a higher gear than first, and I can't get any power. I usually have to stop, put the car in park, and then back in drive once or twice to get first gear to engage. Also, when passing or accelerating on the freeway, I am losing power. When I first bought the vehicle it had lots of pep, now it is pretty much a dog. I've had it at the dealer four times, and they changed the transmission fluid pressure valve once. The service manager told us that this is a problem that GM is aware of, even though they will deny it, and they are trying to determine if the problem is one that they should recall or not. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, did you get it resolved? I am so frustrated I'm ready to call a lawyer and envoke the lemon law. I feel like the dealers and GM want me to believe this problem is all in my head, so I'll just go away. Overall, I really like my Trailblazer, but I feel this problem is a real safety hazard. HELP......
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tidester, host
Good luck let us know what happens.
Frank
Ryan
http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=17- 831&hl=transmission&s=40190f4c60df10059f6ed10318168ce0
Its the valve body that needs to be replaced
Hope this helps you out
P.S
As of 5/23/03, the dealer has not been responsive to GM.
I hope this info. helps!
Steve, Host
I was wondering if this is a generic weakness in this model? I had originally purchased the vehicle with hopes of buying a travel trailer, and using it for a tow vehicle, but have not done that yet. With the repeat transmission failures, I am skeptical about towing with it. Anyone have any experience with this? Any idea why the transmission keeps failing?
If I can find it in one of my desk drawers at the office, I will post the information a GM tech sent me regarding the most common causes of these transmissions failing. When my '02 TB's tranny failed on me about 3 three years ago, the tech that rebuilt mine faxed me a list of components that he had to replace. This fax also contained a list of GM vehicles that used the exact same transmission and it stated that they were experiencing failures in all of the models shown on the list. Unless I am mistaken, the transmission is the 4L60E. It had worked well in the past for GM in many of their other vehicles, but they started having problems with them in 2002. Not sure what changed about the part machining or assembly processes, but something did.
Mine just downshifted really, really hard at about 50 m.p.h. while traveling uphill on a trip to the mountains with my then fiancee. Then it would never shift into 3rd gear again after that. Ruined our trip--and we had to drive home the following morning in a Cavalier rental car. It shifted pretty smoothly for a while after it was rebuilt, then it started slipping again to some degree. Scared me enough to trade it in on something else. I was just always suspect of the SUV after that. Most likely I could have gotten over the tranny issues, but in my particular case there were too many other issues with the SUV that I had experienced. The transmission failure was just the final blow to me.
Ron M.
It happens when I am I put it in drive and when I am in park or just stopped at a stop sign. My front end will vibrate severly with a hmmm also.
It vibrates so much the steering wheel is vibrating. I get the feeling that the interior is affected by this more than the exterior because when I try to hear it from the outside I can't.
My trailblazer is a 2002 EXT LT.
Thanks for any help!
Corrina
What you have described sounds more indicative of bad engine mounts. When you have bad steering wheel vibration while sitting at a stoplight, for example, you could very well have engine/motor mounts that are fatigued. There are also transmission mounts and rear differential mounts. Based on what you have described in your post, most likely you aren't having transmission problems. However, I could be wrong about this.
Ron M.
Thanks. I think you might be right. I have been
saying that it sure sounds like something came loose and it causing the vibrating. I had a
different trailblazer before this current one. It was a 02' also but just a LT. In that one a transmission mount did fall of. This vibrating is simular to that but located in a different area. We live in a pretty rurual area down a lengthy dirt road. Re had flooding Mon. and Tue.
and I decided to have a little fun. I am starting to think perhaps I knocked something loose.
Thanks for the idea. I'll suggest that to my service guy.
Corrina
PLEASE HELP with any advice.
I have a 2000 Suburban with 50k. I had to have the trans rebuilt at 46k due to excessive slipping.
Get your truck in to a good trans shop ASAP. The longer you wait the more damage you are doing. If you can get buy with just a valve body rebuild/replacement it won't be to expensive. I ended up dropping about $1800 for a rebuild with updated components.
I just love GM quality, it keeps a lot of people employed :lemon:
This month, April 2005 the starter went out, the car shut down, my car had to be towed. After inspection the car was in need of a new starter and baterry, and now two weeks later my transmission went out, yes for the second time.
I'm still making car, insurance, and major repair payments.
Last night I was driving my 91 chevy sill 350 auto 4x4 when, while accelerating it would not shift into 3rd gear at aprox 40 m.p.h. It would come out of second but it would rev really high and not shift at all. I let it sit but would not shift could only drive about 30 mph and keep in in 2nd otherwise I would have to stop on side of road and start over keeping it in 2nd. This is huge problem for me because I am only sixteen and it would be hard handle the expense of rebuilding or even buying a new tranny any ideas of what could be done and how much to repair. not sure what style of tranny either.
Please Help :confuse:
Thanks A lot,
worried chevy fan
tidester, host
P.S. You should be posting this question in the Chevy Silverado: Problems & Solutions forum.
Actually, I have spent money on this vehicle ever since I bought it. My gear shift assembly fell apart 10mo. after I got it. I had to replace my head lights and tail lights, the circuit board that controls them (before the recall came out), I had fuel injection problems ($300), my batter literally split down the side after 2 yrs., I replaced the #4 coil due to misfiring. I just replaced the water pump. The only thing warranty paid for was the gear shift, headlights, tail lights.....I was told warranty did not cover the rest - not even my extended warranty (which I just found out was not a GM warranty).
I talked with GM Customer Assistance and got no help. I have now filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. I have a letter that is being sent to Mr. Richard Wagoner, CEO of General Motors Corp. Depending on what the BBB complaint brings about, I may be airing my complaint about this hunk of junk on my local TV station which airs a segment on the news called 7On Your Side. I have also retained an attorney incase I need to file a law suit. I was told that everyone that has had problems (covered by warranty or not) needs to get together and file a Class Action Suit against GM regarding the transmission problems.
Let me know what you did about your problems and how it turned out. Thanks!
I realize this is a tranny discussion, but would you mind telling at what mileage did the water pump go out?
I hope others speak up and tell me about their experiences.
Thanks for your input.
Under load, uphill 2nd to 3rd gear slips badly, sometimes all the way to 6000 RPM. There was never any warning lights or diagnostic messages on the test box that was plugged in during the demo.
The fix involved some valve/s rebuilt, which did make it totally fine......for a while!
At about 34,000 miles, the exact thing started all over again, after two trips back to the dealer who was "unable to reproduce the fault" I started to feel totally uneasy with the warranty getting close to the end. As I had loads of other issues during it's short two year life, I dumped it into the used market. (But not without getting a $3,500 loyalty certificate from the local GM rep.
So note, if you have problems, complain big time, offer a letter from your attorney.
:lemon:
As far as the other transmission problems, if you get things repaired when problems are first noticed, you generally don't need the whole transmission to be replaced. On the newer electronically controlled transmissions, the shifting is controlled via solenoids, which have generated numerous TSBs and changes over time. Also, what makes most of the transmissions go is lack of fluid pressure holding the clutches engaged. The solenoids and other parts of the valve body are responsible for this.
My own problems revolve around an S-10 that has a bad launch shudder and a shudder at times in other gears. I have found out from a TSB that a bad ground could be the problem, and from buying a transmission book, found out that there are literally 100 changes that GM has made to the same transmission in 6 or 7 years. I have also found out that most of these problems are cause by lack of fluid pressure.
If you get a transmission fixed or replaced, make sure that they are updating it with the latest fixes and that they have checked all applicable TSBs from GM. Also, as was my experience just yesterday, there are only a handful of service people who will take the time to help you and speak to you. The rest think you are dumb and don't want to waste their time. (I have several letters going to dealership GMs)
Need some expert advice. I was driving this weekend and had some issues.
On one occasion, I stepped on the gas to accelerate but only the RPM went high-there was no acceleration. I then tried again, and it began to accelerate. But from that moment on, I notice the vehicle is having problems shifting from 1st to 2nd and the biggest problem I have no reverse.
I checked some forums and noticed that other people have some similar problems, but I didn’t see any solutions. I tried adding 1 quart of transmission fluid since it was a bit low, but that didn’t work.
I noticed some people had parts replaced...can you tell me the parts, costs and if there were warranties?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
A) replace the tranny with a certified tranny warranty w/ 3yrs, 100,000mi ($3200)
Is there anyone out there with an option C that can make this problem a little less expensive? Please help...
It was the Sun Shell Spline. The dealership assumed that was the problem when we took it in, but wanted to charge us $455 just to pull the transmission to be sure. We took it to a local car repair shop and saved some money. However, when I got it back, it would "kick" into 2nd and 3rd gear, so the solenoids had to be replaced. After $1300 it's now running smoothly. Just got it back today, so not real comfortable with it, ESPECIALLY after reading these posts.
They definately need to reimburse us for these problems!
Good luck!!
Did the same thing this morning leaving work....Is my transmission starting to go?
It's an '03 LS with 19,100 miles. Never abused, or had anything towed. :lemon: ??
Short summary:
My tranny gave up at 44k.
Took it to the dealer, they gave me two options.
1- $3,100 new tranny 3yr/100k warranty or
2- tear into the tranny min $1,100 plus cost of parts to fix it.
I picked option two since I couldnt afford to replace it
After arguing about the tranny blowing at 44k miles with customer service they offered to pay for half of the rebuild $1,250 only after tearing down the tranny to see if I did anything to cause the failure and taking the chance of paying more than what I had to. I tried to get it lower than that, but they refused and said that I was lucky even to get the goodwill.
Are there any attorneys that would like to take this case? I'm sure you can gather a lot of other people on this forum to support the case.
I don't plan on keeping the car, but I would still like to collect the amount I'm paying to get this fixed.
Sorry GM- I am now a hater and will tell as many people as I can to stop purchasing your products. I'm waiting to get my envoy back from the dealer and plan on driving it with decals that say
"I'd rather be driving a Hyundai, or Kia, or anything that's not GM!"
Good luck to everyone else there with the same problem.
For everyone on this board who has had a transmission problem, please, please, please, please make sure to report it to the NHTSA website. If there are enough complaints of a serious nature, they will consider issuing a recall.
This is the link: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/Consumer.cfm
I cannot stress enough that you should report ANY problems you have. Please also cross post this message to any other board you can find that deals with this issue and encourage all to file a complaint. There are probably thousands or tens of thousands of us at this point....
thanks for the link. i have my complaint sent.
good luck with your situation.
i have the exact same problem, trailblazer on lease 40,144 miles any
solutions or results from your side.
thanks