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I meant no offense to baron, unless, of course, he is a poseur.
If you would be so kind, challenge my information by all means, but not me. And no I was not offended in anway, nor am I a poseur.
I'm in my second year of secondary school that's not secret, and whether by primary or secondary sources I do get a lot of information on the happenings at Cadillac before others. Whether or not you believe me is simply your choice. And no I was not "opining" either. Opining implies stating an opinion or a fallacy. I can assure you it was neither.
As for SRXs actually being sold at near invoice prices, I assure you it is happening; we were offered a V8 AWD at $1500 over invoice. The wheeling and dealing is taking place now, not six months from now as normally happens with a new product.
Lexus as a whole wouldn't exist if it wasn't for women and rich guys in bad pants who play a lot of golf.
if the guys had their way, we'd all be standing around in the service departments while our BMWs and Porshces were being fixed, as we watched our kids' college funds being slowly drained
if your dad was a GM exec, then your info is good (though there would be other credibility concerns, of course)
glad to hear you are not a poseur
the faxct that you are in secondary school really isn't all that relevant to my questioning your credibility (though I did, wrongly, raise it), as I have known many kids your age (including myself) who knew a lot more than folks twice my age ever did or ever will - so more power to you, and keep up the good work
tidester, host
I thought the exterior was beautifully done, though I could do without that third row seat and thus be happier if the vehicle were somewhat shorter - but that's minor. The extended sunroof was terrific. I'm going to trust that the dynamics are great and that most of the good things I've read are true.
However, the interior is disappointing. I've read countless times that GM is going to put more emphasis and $ into quality interiors, but I haven't seen any evidence of it. Who wants to be surrounded by cheap materials in a $50K+ machine? And if you don't believe the interior of the SRX falls WAY short, take a look at any competitor. The interior, in part, comes right out of the CTS, which continues to suffer this same complaint from owners, admirers and detractors. Admittedly, this particular vehicle came without the wood dash trim (shouldn't make a difference)and was in gray (may make a difference).
I still hope it's successful, and that mine is a very minority opinion. I wanted to love this car.
The interior materials in the vehicle aren't actually cheap. They just somehow conspire to make it look cheap. For instance, what appears to be plastic with that weird grain pattern on the dash and door panels is actually a new synthetic material, that's essentially a fabric. Still, I think something more like the XLR's interior treatment would be a big step in the right direction.
That said, the leather, wood, switchgear, etc., in SRX is still of better quality than anything else GM has (with the exception of XLR). And it doesn't rattle! Thank god. Our '01 DTS hasn't had a single quality problem, except that after about two years the dash above the gauges started rattling on bumpy roads.
Nevertheless, I think the functionality and excellent and efficient use of space in the SRX, as well as UltraView, more than makes up for the interior's "fashionability" shortfalls.
it is actually very attractive.
not as aggressive looking as I had hoped
but not feminine looking at all.
it will look terrific in black.
When i looked in the backseat i thought
to myself that it didn't look like there
was that much legroom.
When I actually sat in the seat it was great.
The backseat is high off the floor for theater seating.
And my knees didn't touch the back fo the front seat. And I am 6'8"!!
Much more legroom than a Tahoe.
The SRX i sat in had the the big moonroof and the right side of my head touched the roof.
A vehicle without the big roof would give me
more headroom.
Very nice vehicle.
They will start getting the V6's in November.
craig
At 34, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Cadillac CTS or SRX. I've never been one to follow the crowd though.
Plus it's had lots of problems.
Cadillac is on a roll -- eventually others will jump on the band wagon, but for now enjoy being unique!
Ultraview was out of this world. My wife came home and said, "I want one". The problem is it replaces my car! Only disappointment was that the third row only fits people less than 5 foot 2 comfortably. However, that second row fits giants. I had the drivers seat all the way back yet I fit behind it (6'3" all legs).
V8 was very powerful, but will wait to try a V6 in an effort to not use all the hydrocarbons left on the planet. Also debating AWD vs RWD. While we live in suburban NYC, we don't drive to work and the Saab with traction control has worked admirably in all our snow. ( and yes gets 20mpg at 80mph!) Any thoughts on this?
1. Cadillac SRX V-8.......189 points
2. Porsche Cayenne........185
3. Infinit FX45...........184
4. Volkswagen Touareg.....171
They said the Cadillac artfully confined the ultimate in sport, interior functionality, utility, etc., etc. And that the reason it came in first is because it did everything well, and had no major flaw in any error that someone would look for. They went on to say that if it were a little cheaper, it would be one of the great automotive runaway sucess stories. Again, they were very impressed at the fact that this type of Cadillac existed, let alone stole the crown from the Porsche, being a recent arrival to the performance engineering scene.
Steve, Host
All good!
Come on, Consumer Reports, help me out here before JD Power goes and blows it for me !!!
2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav
Regardless, winning a C/D test is huge since Cadillac historically never done very well with this publication (or any of the others). Hopefully, they won't rest on their laurels and work on the interior upgrades that Bob Lutz promised.
The spokesperson said it would be there all this week, and that they should be in the showrooms at the end of the month. Brochures will be available mid-month.
It is not a long vehicle.
195".
A few inches longer than the CTS. 3" inches longer than a Trailblazer.
To put it into perspective, the Chevy Camaro was a 193".
The Olds Intrigue 195". The Chevy Impala 200".
The SRX is 20" shorter than a full size GM wagon of the 70's and 80's.
With the same 116" long wheelbase.
I think the fact that the SRX is not tall makes it appear longer. It is also a fairly narrow vehicle.
Full Test: 2004 Cadillac SRX
Steve, Host
VW wagons, Audi wagons, Subarus - all are up (especially when you correct the stats for the impact of the recession)
Volvo went crossover
Daimler-Chrysler went crossover
maybe what you are saying is you wish Cadillac had gone more the direction of Nissan with the Infiniti FXs or Porsche and VW with the Cayenne/Touraeg. I can't disagree with you. I guess the market will tell us what people want.
I know the SRX is more what I want than the Cayenne/Touraeg, and more what I want than the Audi/VW wagons or the Subies or the Volvo XC wagon.
I like the edginess of the Cadillac, and the performance. And I don't want something that drives like a truck.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a station wagon, only our culture's need to elevate ourselves by trashing others. Housewife image hurt wagons, Soccer mom image did it to minivans, soon there will be an SUV equivalent. People do want station wagons, its just the image problem many are stuck with. It is too bad that vehicle choices get muddied with society's image of who drives what. It's the old saying, "You are what you drive."
(FYI I have two station wagons, an American luxoboat and a european sport wagon. Together they meet every need I have. I am not a mom, housewife, soccer parent or anything close to the above.)