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  • mikemillermikemiller Member Posts: 71
    I don't have my manual on the house, but I haven't been able to determine who makes the system. The remote says TDS (Theft-Deterrent-System) on it and the manual references Toyota in many places.
    I reread the manual. Sure enough right there in black and white it said that it auto locks BOTH doors when you start the engine and ONLY unlocks the driver's door when you turn off the engine. What kind of bone head thinking is that? I'm getting in the habit of manually unlocking the doors when I shut off the engine. It's either this or take the truck back and have them remove the security system.

    I love the power of this truck. I also love the rumble of the exhaust. You can't be near the truck without knowing it's a V8.

    I think the blue looks great and I agree that the black fender flares that come with the TRD package look really good on the SR5's! I also like the blue with the black trim on the SR5s.
  • berglund1berglund1 Member Posts: 9
    Regardless as to what it may say in the manual, when I turn off my tundra it unlocks both doors. Probably just depends on the install or the settings of some jumpers. This being the case it can be changed to unlock both doors if this is what you desire.

    Carl
  • atoyotatoyot Member Posts: 58
    Have to agree with berglund1 as it is just a relay that gets charged to unlock the doors, and it really shouldn't be that hard to change. I am unfamiliar with how they are installed, but when I but doorlocks on my 93 Toyota it was real simple to get them to work in tandem.
  • lchase1lchase1 Member Posts: 13
    Both my doors unlock when the key is turned off.
  • drymondrymon Member Posts: 2
    Did the aftermarket flares you purchased necessitate modifying/removing your mud flaps? And...where's the pictures you were going to post?
  • pchengpcheng Member Posts: 162
    I just checked. I have a 98 Camary and a Tundra. Both have the V3 alarm (one button works the Camary, the other works the Tundra). On both cars, when you turn off the engine both doors unlock.
  • bscheererbscheerer Member Posts: 1
    Has anyone actually pulled a camper (5000-6000 lbs) with the Tundra? In the mountains? If so, how did it perform? Thanks for comments. I might buy one and wanted to know from comsumers.
  • mikemillermikemiller Member Posts: 71
    What's up. Did everyone move to another message board?
    Tundra updatel; After 1500 miles I've been able to accurately track 3 tank. I've had two tanks at 16.5mpg and one at 15.5. I know it's how I'm driving and the speeds I'm driving that make the variations. I'm completely used to and comfortable with my truck now, and absolutely love it!
  • tp4unctp4unc Member Posts: 437
    Try topic #665(if you haven't already found it).
  • pchengpcheng Member Posts: 162
    Personally, I think topic #665 is getting to be quite a bore; too much bickering, beginning to sound like a bunch of old ladies over there.
  • rlmillerrlmiller Member Posts: 19
    I sure do agree with Pcheng about #665, a lot of activity, very little content. Initially entertaining but now more a waste of time.
    Roger's Tundra 1600 mile update(4x4 Limited):
    1st tank: 14.0 mpg
    2nd tank: 16.0 mpg
    3rd tank: 15.5 mpg
    All city driving except for a 150 mile trip for the Eagles home opener.(should have stayed home)
    I definately like the sound of the Tundra accelerating from a stop light so the mileage should get better after I get over that kick. This is the first V8 I've had since my first car in 1975.
    Problems to date:
    The dome light lens cap keeps falling off! Seems very intermittent too. Sometime it will stay up for days, other times it wont stay up for longer than 60 seconds. Maybe I'll use a little velcro. The other problem came about from the dealership installation of the V3000 alarm. They didn't reinstall the ductwork properly and the little crotch cooler under the steering wheel didn't blow.
    Ordered a Roll-N-Lock(non-vinyl)cover but after not recieving it in over 4 weeks I called the manufacturer and found they weren't making them for the Tundra. Then ordered a specialty cover electrically retractable cover. I hope I have better luck with this one.
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    The domelight housing may be broken. Mine was. I assumed the dealership did it when they preped the truck for me when I picked it up. I thought that the make ready guy smacked his head on it or something when he was vacuming. You might take it in and have the service dept. look at it. It took a couple days to get the housing in and a couple hours for them to replace it on mine.
  • sandman6sandman6 Member Posts: 11
    if someone who hsa the flares, could send me a pic in jpeg format it would be appreciated im thinking of purchasing a set, but would like to see them on a truck, i have a 4x2 black acess ,v8 and love it thanks in advance
  • sandman6sandman6 Member Posts: 11
    my email is outbrdmn@aol.com
  • pchengpcheng Member Posts: 162
    Did you go to the game this week (against Dallas). Just got back (great game!!). The Eagles actually won against Dallas (no kidding: I'm still in shock). I saw one other BLK Tundra in the lot (SR5). Was it yours?
  • rlmillerrlmiller Member Posts: 19
    Eusasc, Thanks for the tip. I examimed the light housing thoroughly trying to find damage, a crack, something to blame this on but I found nothing. What really bugs me is it's intermittency. I mean I had to pry the lens off to look at housing and it had a nice 'pop' when the lens came off, like it was seated om there very well but I know a couple of days from now I'll go over a little bump and it will fall again. I know, I should just use some velcro and forget about it but this little problem may be a symptom of another problem. Ideas anyone?
  • rlmillerrlmiller Member Posts: 19
    Always a great game when Dallas gets beat! No I wasn't there. Who would have thunk it, the Eagles finding an offense, albeit just for a quarter. Didn't even see it on TV! I watched 3 quarters of the game but had to leave for a family thing and missed the only quarter that was worth watching!
  • buzzman2buzzman2 Member Posts: 12
    Found Edmunds on Saturday and started with #665.
    Seems better here. My question on #665 is: Has anyone done any towing with a Tundra? I own (and love) my 98 4Runner, but it has limited towing capacity and I can't rent a travel trailer. Looked at and tested Sierra's, F150's and Silverado's. I'm now going to purchase a 2000 Tundra, because of my good experiences with my 4Runner, and the numerous comments and complaints in other forums about thes vehicles.
    Thank for any help and advice.
  • rtrrtr Member Posts: 3
    I placed an order for a 4X4 Tundra Ltd with numerous options. One VERY IMPORTANT feature to me is that it have the bench seat instead of the captain's chairs (I like the big flip-down console as an armrest much better than that wimpy little armrest and the bench seat is really much more practical, when you think about it). (I have read about the vibration problems and believe that, if I encounter that problem, I will complain to the dealer (incessantly, if necessary) until it is fixed.
    MY PROBLEM is that I am being told that Toyota is making very few LTDs with bench seats and that I may have to wait quite some time.
    I can't wait! Does anyone have any suggestions? Am I getting the runaround?
  • mad9mad9 Member Posts: 6
    I don't think your getting the run around. I ordered my LTD with Bench and TRD on 17 Sep. Was told today that the factory finally accepted the order and will be deliverd in a month or two. But, they said the problem with my order was trying to get a TRD package w/Bench. Good luck with yours.
  • mmarcummmarcum Member Posts: 16
    I also wanted a bench seat. Initially sr5's primarily with captains available I think because of demand. I haven't seen any limiteds with bench except the one I ordered. It took 6 weeks for delivery, about 3 weeks from the time toyota agreed to build it until it was built. It was delivered 2 days later but I live only 50 miles from the plant.
  • 1taxman1taxman Member Posts: 27
    I saw one today in El Cajon Ca. but it didn't have ABS so I passed on it. They are starting to come out. Keep your eyes open and be ready to move when you find the one you want.
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    I've done some towing with mine. Towed a trailer with 3 bikes on it and a 4th bike in the bed. Bikes and trailer combined probably weighed close to 4000 lbs. Didn't have any problems cruising 75 and 80 all the way (about 800 miles round trip). Even shredded a tire on the trailer and never felt it.
  • cymancyman Member Posts: 8
    Thanks for the note... sanity. Picking up my SR5 4x4 V8 TRD this afternooon. Yee haw!
  • grayman1grayman1 Member Posts: 2
    Why is noone concerned that the Tundra is not offered with a limited slip rear differential? Does this not seriously compromise Toyota's entrance into the field of full size domestics?
  • artpartp Member Posts: 156
    A agree, limited slip would be nice to have. But, is it really that much of an advantage, or necessary when one already has 4wd? In other words, it wasn't enough to make me buy a Chevy.

    This is not sarcastic, but who cares if they compromise their entry in fullsize-dom if you get what you want?
  • achiangoachiango Member Posts: 6
    Who makes that power retractable cover? Any info on the web?

    Pace-Edwards does make a vinyl-over-aluminum cover similar to the Roll-n-lock.

    Thanks,
  • greatzotgreatzot Member Posts: 11
    I ordered the tow hitch package. Does this include the higher output relay and wiring harness to a plug in on the bumper. Nothing to tow yet, but I'd rather have this equipment put in at the factory.
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    Don't need it, don't care they don't offer it.
  • atoyotatoyot Member Posts: 58
    I want a limited slip, or locking rear end on a PreRunner Tundra like the Tacoma's. I also want it to come with the Bilstien shocks. With that combo I wouldn't need the 4 wheel drive.
  • powercatpowercat Member Posts: 96
    Does anyone else have a slight rattle in the extended door behind the driver at about head level where the two doors meet? It only does it if you hit a pretty good bump.
  • mikemillermikemiller Member Posts: 71
    I have the rattle sometimes, when I hit a particularly nasty bump. I think I have figured out what it is and how to how to eliminate it. I think it's caused by the access and front door gaskets rubbing against each other where the two overlap when the cap flexes as you hit the bump. I also think water may have something to do with it. I think water (from rain, truck wash, or dew) can run off the roof into the gaskets when you open the door and causes the rubber to squeak at that particular rubber on rubber point, kind of like wet sneakers on a clean floor. I think it happens behind the drivers head because, for me at least, I'm the only one that opened a door to let the water in, and the water just gets to the top part of the door.
    I've made the sound go away by drying the gaskets with a towel and applying Armor-All. The Armor-All makes the gasket a little oily and slick and also makes the water bead up and roll off. I haven't heard the squeak since I've done this.
    Let me know if this works for you.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Some of them ones on #665 be askin on these ones
    occurin on them tindras now:

    Trannies shiftin hard on 1st to second.
    Noise and creakin on that cab.
    Hard startin and such.
    Vibration in the cab and on them seats.

    If anyone know why please post it back to that #665. Anyone here know why them limited ones not come with that factory hitch? Anyone get that class 4 hitch on them sr5 ones? Good luck on these ones here!
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    Yep, Buy one like mine. None of them problems. Got a hitch on mine too.

    How bout them noisy trannies on those shivys?? Good luck with that one now. You're gonna need it.
  • rubluetoorubluetoo Member Posts: 175
    Got these here ones right from the mouth of them
    tindras owners now eusasc! These be there tells not mine now! What class that hitch on that one of yours? Come on over to topic #1129 now, lets here what you got to say on this! Good luck on them tindras now!
  • rlmillerrlmiller Member Posts: 19
    achiango,
    The power retractable cover is made by specialty covers. The Pace-Edwards and the Roll-n-Lock do a vinyl over aluminum cover. The Roll-n-Lock also does a aluminum cover with a black power coat finish. I ordered the non-vinyl Roll-n-Lock and after not receiving it for a month I called the factory and found they were not making them for the Tundra(they will do the vinyl cover). I then canceled my order and ordered the Specialty cover from Dave's Tonneau. Should be in some time next week. I'll post details when(if?) I get it.
    Dave's Tonneau:
    http://www.quikpage.com/D/davetonneau/
    Specialty Covers:
    http://www.specialtycovers.com/electric.html
    BTW, I ordered the Roll-n-Lock through California Concepts. They charged my credit card as soon as I ordered it. Four weeks later, after getting bull from California Concepts about why my order had not shipped, I called the R-N-L factory and found they weren't making the cover for the Tundra. Had to call California Concepts many times to get a credit posted to my card.
    Moral : Don't deal with California Concepts!
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    These be the shivy owner tells not mine. Look at all those lemon law returns on them shivy's. Good luck with that one now.
  • medicbmedicb Member Posts: 3
    I need some help from any of you Electrical Buffs out there. I have configured my Tundra Limited 4x4 Access Cab with an eight strobe light bar, plus two strobes in each fog lamp, two red grille strobes, and an flashing system that alternately flashes the brake lights and the backup lights. The Tundra is well lit and motorist tend to pull over whenever I'm on an emergency run (I'm a volunteer paramedic). When I've engaged all the lights, the engine RPM fluctuates + or - 500 RPM (with the associated hesitation).
    I've narrowed the problem down to the brake lighting system, as the Engine Control Unit (ECU) is on the same circuit as the brake lights. So when the brake lights flash, the ECU senses I've put on the brakes, and (1) disengages the Cruise Control and (2) drops the RPM and tries to shift into a lower gear. I tied into the brake lighting system about 18" from the rear lights, so I have basically bypassed all the junction boxes and splices in the system. Someone told me I need to install a diode to prevent the current from the alternating flashing unit from "backflushing" back into the ECU. Can anyone tell me what kind of diode I should look for? I'm assuming I would install the diode between the splice I made and the ECU. I've disconnected the flashing system to prevent any damages to the truck.

    Otherwise, I've had my Tundra Limited for 3 months now, and have over 4200 miles on it, with no other problems. I too am very pleased with the quite, comfortable ride, but I have not experienced any of the shimmey or rattles that others seem to have experienced. Mileage is what I sort of expected - 15.5 town, and 18.5 highway. Still get a lot of oohs and aahs in parking lots and a lot of looks while driving. I have the offroad package, and I find the ride comfortable and pleasing, not stiff and hard as I had expected.

    Anyway, if any of you Tundra Fans out there can help me out, I'd sure appreciate it.
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    You might try taking a trip to your local Radio Shack. I know it's a stretch, but every now and then they have somone working there that actually knows something about electronic componants. If you don't have any luck there, try a car audio shop.
  • h_bosih_bosi Member Posts: 9
    To MedicB

    Just an educated guess.

    Try this.

    Diodes can be 50-100A ( I doubt that your light draws anywhere near that much amperage, but in electrical circuits, you need margin) silicon retifiers. Look in the phone book for electronics suppliers. Often, there is a used parts supplier in you area to get these rectifiers cheap.



    flashing system diode
    --------------------|>|----
    |
    diode |
    ECU --------------------|>|----
    | |
    BRAKE SWITCH ____| [light]
    |
    (presumably gnd)


    /BOSI
  • dklossdkloss Member Posts: 22
    Has anyone located a good source for the Tundra step-ups ??? I am having a hard time lettin' up with $600+ for Tundra step-ups from my dealer. If anyone knows of a good source for step-ups please provide the link or phone number...
  • kentekente Member Posts: 28
    Any opinions on whether the ABS on a new TUNDRA is worth the cost??????
  • pchengpcheng Member Posts: 162
    It depends. If you are going Off-Road - no.
    Snow and slick roads - Yes

    Just my opinion. BTW I have ABS.
  • eusasceusasc Member Posts: 91
    Do you get a discount with your insurance company for having ABS? If so then you should get the ABS. Saves you money in the long run and gives you better resale value.
  • pchengpcheng Member Posts: 162
    I have Allstate, and they give me ~$30 discount for the ABS.
  • chilsonchilson Member Posts: 3
    First time poster, long time lurker....

    I'll try to keep this informative and short, my apologies if it runs long.

    I've been reading the Tundra posts for a few weeks now, and would like to thank everyone for the useful input.
    This summer I fell in love with the Dakota R/T, but woke up one morning wondering what it would be like to have one when it's 10 years old. Scratch the R/T.
    Having been a chevy man all my life, I liked the promise of the new Silverado. Truthfully, the behavior of a certain chevy loving poster to this group turned me off to some degree. I'd feel like these were my peers on the highway. And then I woke up one morning wondering what it would be like when it's 12 years old. Maybe O.K., but my experience suggests the interior, buttons and handles would be lying on the cab floor.
    So I looked at the Tundra: A little spartan compared to the goodie laden americans, and somewhat overpriced, but god, what a beautiful power train. (Oh yeah, nice ride too).

    My wife and I have been driving for 70 years between us and never owned a japanese car until this year. We did'nt want to start now and tried hard to "Buy American", but there is a limit to what we will suffer so Detriot can keep it's management layers in place. (O.K. enough politics).

    I just bought a black limited x2 yesterday 'n haven't slept since. I just keep going out and getting in the truck and driving. I LOVE IT!
    I would, however, like to toss my two cents in regarding a couple of issues raised in these discussions.

    The issues:

    1. Lexus Truck
    No way. I mentioned that point to my wife and she sniggered at me. If you have never gotten the chance to drive an LS400 or LX470 for a few days, then you may not know what luxury can be.
    The Tundra's a great truck. An Avalon Truck? But even a short trip in the wife's LS400 humbles me and my Limited. Of course, she declined to compete with carrying a half ton of rock in the back seat, so my male pride's intact.
    2. Price
    I don't know about the rest of the world, but the dealers are negotiating around the California Bay area. I grabbed my checkbook and headed down the freeway to every Toyota dealer along the way. the first two dealers did'nt have limiteds. The third dealer (25 miles away) accepted my first and final offer of $2200 off MSRP so fast that I think I screwed myself a bit. (I know some of you have done a lot better, but I haggle like s**t).
    3. Wheel Vibration
    I test drove the truck on the freeway. I drove it home on the freeway at 60 - 70. Then with 50 miles on the odometer I suddenly got a bad shimmey at 65 that does not stop until I'm down to 35 or so.
    This ain't wheel balance or tire pressure. Balance would have resonant frequencies at certain speeds and pressure's on the money.
    Maybe poor balance kick starts this problem, but I think there is an issue even if you don't feel it (yet).
    My humble theory is that the caster angle may be so small (these trucks sure steer light)that any play in the linkage may start a feedback loop. Maybe I could test this by turning sharp to break the oscillation, but I kinda don't want to try this at 65 MPH. I'll talk to service in a day or so. Do you have any thoughts?

    LOVE MY TRUCK! Thanks for all the good info.
  • jyarnoldjyarnold Member Posts: 50
    I was considering a bed cover but am now opting for a topper. I saw a post about the snugtop, any other suggestions on toppers? I'm concerned about adding rattles to ride with some of the junky toppers I've seen out there. Also wondering if the bubble tops create any probs with aerodynamics.
  • tp4unctp4unc Member Posts: 437
    A.R.E. www.4are.com They have a new "Z" series topper that sure is slick. They are presently working on the "Z" top for the Tundra application. I e-mailed A.R.E. and they responded by telling me to check back in a month or so. Their other lines are nice also but I really like the locking mechanism and other features of the Z series.
  • jyarnoldjyarnold Member Posts: 50
    thanks for the site tp4unc, looked at the z series and sure looks good. Have you slept back there? Is there enough room to situp? I plan on using the bed as a bed for two (when it's too wet to setup a tent) which is why the bubble toppers look good to me, though they don't do much for the truck, especially that a.r.e. k series: suuuweee. What about cost? How removable are toppers? As you can tell this is my firt PU and I'm using it more like a SUV so I'm looking for security, room and no loss to the Tundra ride in terms of noise and performance.
  • djhatterasdjhatteras Member Posts: 1
    Medicb:

    The problem that you are experiencing could possibly be solved with the strategic (and correct) installion of several diodes. I do not have a Tundra; (am searching for a new vehicle at this time) however, with all the additional electrical devices that you have added (even tho' strobes do generally use less current than conventional) have you done an analysis on the additional electrical demands that you have placed on your alternator/battery?

    How much juice are you using when all your emergency lights, regular lights, AC, windshield wipers etc. are operating and can your electrical system handle it without an upgraded alternator?

    You may be asking your electrical system to do too much for you and creating a voltage drop at the ECU which may cause the problem. You didn't say, but did you also install a 2-way radio as well, which also taxes the electrical system.

    In addition, strobes do radiate RF energy and may be getting into your ECU as well.

    Try contacting the strobe manufacturer for assistance (Whelen strobes had an excellent engineering department that helped me solve some unique problems with Chevy suburbans that we used for ems vehicles)

    To select the right diode, figure out how much current the load draws distal to the device that current flows through the diode, and then either double it and buy a single diode to handle that amount of current or place two of the same diodes in parallel of the current rating needed. If you match a diode near your rating, you may experience alot of heat dissapated by that device, which may break down or it could melt other wires if they are in close contact with it.

    For instance: In our suburban, the brake light circuit drew 6 amps at the point where the diode was to be installed. I installed 2 - 6 amp rated diodes in parallel at that point. The diodes were NOT available at radio shack; but, were easily obtained through an industrial electronic supplier. I believe the 6 amp diode was an ECG-5814....however, the supplier can easily cross reference his catalog for the right device. You just need to know what size. Cost per diode was < $5 each at that time (1990).

    h bosi is correct.....you do need margin, so don't skimp.

    Hope I didn't confuse the issue for you......good luck.
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