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This decision may very likely be in recognition of the number of problems / complaints to Suzuki. Since the next generation Verona will be a complete makeover, and before they launch a new vehicle, they will perform more testing over a variety of conditions; to make sure they get it right before it hits the streets, and before the consumer finds the fault!
Sorry if i caught any1's attention but it sounds like a seller to me . Gm, Suzuki, and opel should build it :mad: !! Any opinions
If they are smart they will also dump the name, with all the problems this car has had......
I took my 04 Verona to dealership last Thursday for loud ticking which got progressively louder the faster I drove (currently 55K miles). As a matter of act, a man at the gas station asked me if Suzuki was making a diesel car now. At any rate, they first tried the ole looks like you didn't have proper maintenance performed on your car and they would need me to provide all receipts of oil changes or else repairs may not be covered under warranty. Then I found this forum and was so excited to see so many others with the same problem. I immediately called the dealership with my great find and they were not happy with my new discovery. Within hours, I received a call that they were replacing the heads and everything would be covered under warranty, except cleaning the gunk off the engine and making adjustments to the timing chain. Well, needless to say I'm not happy that I have to pay that; especially since the gunk wouldn't be there if it weren't for the faulty equipment I bought. I placed a call to Suzuki about these charges, which are so far $250, but I don’t want to pay for it not my problem and they are checking and will return my call. PEOPLE don’t get in a hurry with Suzuki because they're not quick.
Today (Tuesday) I get a call from the dealership that they are going to have to replace the motor as still wasn't right after replacing the heads. In the meantime, since I'm past my 36,000 rental car warranty, I'm going broke paying for a rental car (2 weeks) way more than my car payment.
Thanks in advance for helping a first-time poster ;)CMC
If Suzuki calls it the "Verona" it will be a BIG MISTAKE based on the number of problems this car has had. As far as the "high end" version is concerned, you have to be CRAZY to pay $27,000.00 for anything made by GM/Daewoo. IT'S THE QUALITY!! (Or lack therof!)
The car body quality continues to impress with very small gaps between body panels. I still like the looks better than that of any competitors. The car cruises easily at any legal road speed. Nothing has fallen off or begun to rattle. This is noteworthy since we live on a rough gravel road.
The least likeable traits include high road noise from the tires, and the poorly programmed automatic transmission. In normal range, the engine revs too high under normal medium throttle before shifting up. To stop this, I press the "hold" button on the center floor console. This veers too far in the opposite direction. The engine then is limited to about 2500-3000 RPM top speed and the car loses most of its acceleration. Also, in "hold" position, first gear is locked out. Despite the disadvantages, I operate most of the time in "hold". In-town gas mileage may be a bit better also. The engine has always had a slight but noticeable steering wheel vibration when the engine is idling in neutral. The problem has not gotten worse or better over time.
The slight engine rattling noise I remarked on in an earlier post remains but has not worsened over time. Oil economy seems normal since I have never had to add oil between changes.
I would consider buying a new 2008 Suzuki Verona if one appears and the noted problems are corrected. For Verona buyers who like the inline cross-mounted six cylinder engine, and want to upgrade, consider the forthcoming 2007 Volvo S80. It has a 3.2 liter straight six, arranged as in the Verona, is only slightly larger, and may have stronger dealer support. Sadly, the cost will be far higher.
This "rattle" is your classic "head gasket/valves" going bad as in most other Veronas. It will get worse over time and require replacement!
Suzuki also reported the return of the Swift hatchback in 2010 (discontinued in '02). It will compete against the Honda Fit and Nissan Versa. A hybrid version of the Swift will also be available. Nissan will provide Suzuki with a small pickup truck version of the Frontier in 2008.
It's starting to look really bad.
I have used the remote to find my car in a parking lot once, but I was on the wrong level. Most of the time my car is easy to find. I just look behind the biggest, ugliest, gas guzzling-est SUV driven by the most self- absorbed person on the planet, blocking out the view of everything except the sun, and I can usually find my car, right behind it. The good thing about the Verona is there are never so many of them in the parking lot that you can't find yours. I've gone to the wrong Corolla, the wrong Concorde, even the wrong Sebring, but never the wrong Verona!
I love this forum because you get to vent your joys and frustrations. Got my frustration on June 24th. When my '04 Verona failed to start, I anticipated it was the battery. Read the fine print for warranty in regards to the battery. It's only for 24 mos, or 24,000 whichever comes first. My car turned 36,008 when this happened. Took the car to my local mechanic, (instead of the dealer). I probably got "raped" as he charged me $40 to "diagnose" that I needed a new battery (uh duh - I knew that). Then, another $90 for the battery itself. Just goes to show, if Suzuki only warranted their battery for 2 years, it was an el-cheap-o to begin with. Be forewarned.
If you read my previous posts about all of the problems I have had with the GM/Daewoo built Verona, I finally got rid of it yesterday. The district service manager wanted to get me out of this car so he offered to do a deal with a dealer where they would take my verona(with wrong milage on odometer, because of the dealer screw up), and he would give up his demo for me to purchase. So I really before adding the negative equity back on, I bought this 06 Grand Vitara X-Sport for 16,500 with 7,000 miles on it. The kicker is that it has about $2000 worth of dealer installed accessories that I got for free because Suzuki picked up the tab because it was the manager that was driving it and therefore it was a manufacturer demo. I got the nice 16" rims that in the book at the dealer cost $325 dollars a piece and a bunch of other options. After the negative equity from my Verona :lemon: , I walked out about $500 above sticker price. I must thank the district manager as he wanted to keep me with Suzuki for a long time, as I have already been a customer for 6 years with them and 2 cars. After the verona episode, i bought the ESP with it just in case, but as the sticker states, parts content 100% Japan, and final assembly point of Iwata, Japan, not USA, not Korea, and definitly not GM/Daewoo. I wish all of the rest of you luck with your Veronas. I will miss the nice features of the car, but not the mechanical issues.
If Suzuki calls it the "Verona" it will be a BIG MISTAKE based on the number of problems this car has had. As far as the "high end" version is concerned, you have to be CRAZY to pay $27,000.00 for anything made by GM/Daewoo. IT'S THE QUALITY!! (Or lack therof!)
Isn't that what i said about it likely to be a rebadged Altima with a different name. That price range is sooo similat to the altima. In fact, it sounds like maxima.
I made a name for it if they do drop Verona:
The Suzuki Bonzai, a new midsized sedan!
As easy as I drive my Verona, I'm not even close to reaching 19mpg in the city. My last mileage check was under 17mpg without AC usage. Now it's hot and I'm using the AC. I can't even bear to check the mileage now.
For the mileage my Verona is getting, I should have just spent the $3,500 extra and purchased a new Dodge Charger SE with the 3.5 HO V6 (250HP). With the Charger being bigger, heavier, and having more horse power, I'd then at least have a reason why I wasn't getting good gas mileage.
By the way, anyone else notice a nice clunking and gear-grinding sound when you turn on your AC? The dealership told me that it was normal for it to clunk and grind. I've never owned a car that did this unless something was wrong with the compressor. :confuse:
Good luck with whatever car to end up with! :lemon:
Maybe you have something less obvious going on, like a stuck brake caliper or a bad plug wire or fuel injector. I'd take it to the dealer, tell them about the mileage, and ask them to look it over. I bet they'll find something like that. The Verona is no mileage champ, but it shouldn't be in the teens.
One more thing, when I check my mileage mid-tank, it is always far lower than a full-to-empty check. I can't figure out why, it just is.
When I drive constant speed between 30 - 40mph my Verona has a slight but continuous hesitation. Anyone else have this problem?
Thanks to this forum and recent news reports, I have sadly discovered that this is not the case. I'm almost sick to my stomach at the thought that I have purchased a rebadged Daewoo. :sick: I have driven Toyotas for over 11 years. I thought I was buying another Japanese car.
If I had known what I was really buying, I never would have purchased the Verona.
Yeah, I get that "hesitation" too, but at higher speeds - say between 50 - 60mph. I also randomly get what I call an "abrupt surge" when approaching zero mph (like approaching a stop sign or light). You'll find various complaints throughout this forum, on a variety of tranny issues. What I do is review the Technical Service Bullentins (aka TSB) at Suzuki's Pitstop website. Look for anything related to TCM, ECM, shift related, etc. My gripe, is that you have to PAY to download the damn bulletins. Another problem you'll run into is that the service shop is unable to replicate the problem. Good luck with that. :lemon:
If your wheels were out of balance for a long time, that along with hard braking from high speed can contribute to warped rotors on any vehicle.
The reason he does not see them in the shop is because no one is buying them based on their past issues. They (the Verona) are history after the '06 model year. Suzuki is dumping them. They gave Suzuki a very bad reputation it will take years to get over.