I live in Salt Lake City and today pricing for a A6 Quatro were about $10,00 to $12,000 below MSRP-should I stick with this when I go and try and purchase the vehicle this weekend? I am paying cash-is this a fair deal??? gecko1
Why does anyone ever talk about MSRP? Start with the invoice and work your way down (or, if absolutely necessary, up) from there. MSRP is basically a car maker telling you that this is what they would like to make on the car. Who the hell cares what they would like to make. For the time being at least, we're still in a capitalistic society. The car's worth what the market says it's worth. And that generally has far more to do with how much the dealer had to pay for it than what the manufacturer would like the world to think its cars are worth.
It will probably depend on the model and what options you want. With the '09s eventually hitting the market, the more inventory on the '08, the lower the price. Especially with gas prices, my guess is that the quattros will be priced lower than the CVTs. At least that's been my experience in sunny CA, where there's really no need for the quattro.
For what it's worth, after reviewing the posts on this board I'm starting to think that people talk about MSRP because they like to think the car's worth more. As in "I have a $65k car that I got for $54k." No you don't. You have a $54k car.
Get invoice off of Edmunds or KBB.. then, head to your dealer and have them show you their invoice..
Invoice is whatever the dealer wants it to be... MSRP is MSRP..
Negotiation is a different matter.. but, when someone posts that they got ABC car for $500 over invoice... you still can't be sure what that number means..
I know what the invoce for the car is. The reason I ask is that someone posted they got an offer from the dealer for $12K off MSRP, thats roughly $8000 below invoice. I am wonder if this is what 08 A6 are going for now, thats quite a discount. I know I can get that discount for a MB E350 right now, but I didnt think I can with A6 since there is no factory cash back like the E350 which have a $4000 back offer.
What are you guys getting for offer from dealer for the 08 A6. I was hoping for a 09 A6 with the supercharger, but if the 08 is going for so much less, I might just go for the 08.
The dealer wants 13,900. The car is in excelent shape one owner 56k miles on it. The bluebook value is about 14,450, but Edmunds TMV says only 11,320. How should i approach this situation in a means of negociating?
Paid 22,500. Threw on "Pot Hole Insurance." $500.00
Total was around 25,200 with all fees and tax.
Good Deal?
My Question is how much would the Nav cost to install? I saw some "Nav" kits on eBay, but my dealers head mechanic said they can't be installed, nor do they work. He said the nav job would cost 4,000 for them to install the nav, because the whole car needed to "Re-Wired" and I need a new "Shark-Fin" The dealers head mechanic also said that the Ipod adapter can't be installed either on the 2005.
Some Concerns with the Quality of the Car I'm Afraid
First Week Problems: Sunroof "Spring" came lose, was out a car 4 days to Fix and Order parts. Rear Seatbelt "Plug-in" got sucked up in the retracter. Rear Cupholders broken; Did not deploy. Front Passenger Seatbelt outlet broke.
I love the way the car drives, the look, the performance, and the AWD.
Doesn't sound to good of a deal. I bought a 2005 last weak from a very respected Audi dealer in Jersey, loaded. 51k miles, which may sound like a lot, but its not considering the CPO warranty.
I went to the dealer thinking I was going to lease an 09 A4 actually. To my surprise the deal was 399 a month, 4300 down, but a 21k buy out which is ridiculous, because when the lease is up in 3 years you could probably buy the car for 18 or 19. My dealer talked me into the A6, and honestly the 05 A6 drives better then the 09 A4 anyway.
Any recent deals 2008 A6 deals? I am not getting anywhere close to the deals people have reporting in Sep. Most I am seeing is 42+TTL for a premium package 3.2 Q
Ok, as of today 11/18, there are new incentives for old 2008 A6 inventory. It has to be sitting on the lot for at least 90 days.
2500 cash 3000 old inventory incentive
Plus any loyalty (1500 A4, 2500 A6)
Residual 46%, 12k, 36month, MF .00081
Don't forget most A6's were marked down with a "Value Enhancement Credit" of 5150
We just leased a car originally stickered at 54295 and sold today at 39804 including Audi Care. We paid 7k below current invoice near 46k. We turned in an expiring A4 lease.
The lease was less than 530 per month. A great car and FINALLY an amazing deal....We are BACK from our M35 to A6!
what was your total driveoff cost "a6 to m35"? Does that $530/mo include tax and if so which state are you in? Is that new incentive published anywhere?
If it was orginally a $54k msrp, I'm assuming it included tech and s line, right?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm looking at an a6 myself, and I'm also about to finish my a4 lease.
The 54k MSRP was BEFORE the "Value Enhancement Credit". Current MSRP is 49100...Drive off was Bank fee, Doc, MV, taxes.
The Dealer was in NJ but the car will be registered in a state that requires taxes to be paid upfront and on the total selling price of the vehicle. A really sucky state for motor vehicles!
NO tech or S line. Just Premium, Nav, Ipod, 18" wheels.
It DOES NOT include tax.
Interestingly enough, I have not seen this incentive posted anywhere. But my dealer went through 75% of his A6 stock by yesterday after this came across his desk...
I'm considering purchasing a 1999 A-6 with low miles from a private seller. The only problem is that the miles are low because the car was sitting for long periods without being driven and the Audi dealer had to do a whole power restore procedure to get the electronics to work properly. In doing a Carfax also found that the car had been in a previous accident (more than 1,000 in body work) and am not sure how to figure this into a fair offer price. I wanted to get the car checked with the local Audi service dept. first, but BEFORE I spend the money and time to do this would like to have an offer in mind. The guy is asking "DEALER RETAIL" price of 7,400 which is what comes up on Edmunds for a "clean" condition for this year and mileage. "Average" Condition on private party comes up about $5,600....but doesn't account for accident, sitting, or the fact that it will need about $2,400 in upcoming service for timing belt, water pump, thermostat, which need to be done soon.....What's a fair figure taking all this into account...I want to pay a price that accounts for the fact that if I need to resell...any buyer will have the same concerns about buying an accident car??? THANKS!!
I was planning to buy an A4 Avant Prestige but decided to get one of the remaining 08 A6 Avant. It has enhanced premium package with nav, tech, cold weather, AMI. Paid 14,6xx below original MSRP. Audicare and all season floor mats included. Dealer is in NJ.
Would offer the seller $2500.00 for the car, he would be fortunate to get that! Have had almost 9 years of Audi ownership experience.....believe me when I tell you to buy another brand! Much happier the last 3 years driving Toyota and Mazda.
I purchased an A6 last August. Since then, I have been driven a loaner car (A4) almost 9 weeks becasue my a6 has been kept by local audi dealer to fix a probelm.
Even if they have spent total 9 weeks to figure out and been trying to resolve the issue the car has, still they have not resolved the issue. Now what can i handle this situation?
I am very skeptical to keep that. In order to evade a lemon law, they have not wanted to release the car before they confirm that the issue is resolved.
This means that I may drive a4 several weeks more.
I am really regretting about purchasing a A6 instead of lexus GS series ( expected better reliability).
the best thing I want is to return and purchase another brand.
Any suggestion for this situation would be appreciated.
Problems with vehicle: 1.) air conditioning fitting replaced 2.) black paint peeled and repainted on side moldings 3.) alarm system failed and rebuilt 4.) driver/front passenger window crank assembly replaced 5.) climate control module replaced 6.) heater blower motor replaced 7.) valve cover/cam cover gaskets leaking and replaced 8.) secondary cooling fan motor burned out and replaced 9.) turbos cooked and replaced 10.) 4 sets of front brake rotors replaced 11.) heat shield broken from exhaust and taken off to prevent rattling 12.)air bag light sensor on...not repaired 13.) front bumper upgrade underneath, almost torn off parking under curb stop. 14.)air conditioning weak on hot summer days....not repaired 15.) heater motor blower weak on cold winter days.....no further repair` 16.) front fog light burned out....assembly replaced 17.) remote key fob has poor distance....battery replaced.....no change
Sold car in 2006 w/ 99,900 miles for $11,500.00.
Would definately return and purchase another brand , if possible. The Audi was a great driving car w/ a fantastic interior and just plain poor mechanics/electrical components. An incredibly complicated vehicle to repair which should not be owned w/o warranty protection. A 3 year lease and return example would be best case situation for this type of automobile.
2008 4.2 with following options Sport Suspension 1BE Shades 3Y5 Floor Mats 6MM Audi Ipod 7D3 Audi Lane Assist 7Y2 Navigation PND 19" Wheels PQ4
I made $1k deposit for dealer to ship car (he says cost him $400 for 120 miles ) from another out of state dealer and then "found out" it was test drive car with 350 miles! They dropped $1k on price and agree to pay shipping when I complained.
Dealer is quoting $62,330 MSRP Edmunds shows $63.800 Last offer from dealer $52,800 before tax, etc.
Are the following dealer incentives still in effect from a Nov 18 post on this board? Nov 18 A6 incentives 2500 cash 3000 old inventory incentive 5150 value incentive credit If so, I calculate his costs (invoice-incentives) at $48,861
Should a test drive car get an additional discount? Should I pay any other compensation for him getting it from another dealer?
PS: Dealer is listing almost identical but <10 mile car ($2k fewer options but wrong color) for $49.9k Retail on Internet
I have no connection with the dealer, but a dealer posted on the Audiworld forum, of which I am a member, a 2008 A6 4.2 for more than $15,000 off of MSRP. Here is the link link title
I have a 2006 A6 lease that is expiring. Presently pay $567/mo incl taxes (basic model: 3.2 engine, 12k mi/yr, no navigation, no sat radio). My goal was to pay nothing down and same payment for a similar basic 2009 A6 lease. Given economy I thought this would be achievable, but dealer was unwilling to consider despite my offer to do the deal on the spot.
Any recent So FL A6 lease experiences anyone can share?
With around 25-40k Miles According to Edmunds with those options and clean condition Dealer Retail 25k Miles - $25,368, CPO - $27,855 40k Miles - $24,372, CPO - $26,825
What do you think though? This would be my first dealer purchased car so I don't want to get taken. I was thinking with 30k miles and CPO around $23,500?
I am considering to purchase a CPO 2006 Audi A6 (CVT). The dealer list it for just under $23K plus TTL. Its has just over 26K miles on the clock, was ex-lease vehicle (3 year). It has about 1 year left on the factory warranty plus the CPO warranty and also the balance of the free maintenance (about one year). The dealer emailed me the maintenance record for the vehicle that showed no major repairs as mentioned in some of the other posts. I need some input if this is a good deal since I am concerned about future repair issues with this car, hopefully they would have showed by now. Thank you.
Anyone buying a new A6 these days? My lease is up and I'd like to see what others are paying. I'm looking at the 3.0T Prestige. The one dealership by me has a few still on the lot, so I'm thinking they might be eager to make a deal.
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For what it's worth, after reviewing the posts on this board I'm starting to think that people talk about MSRP because they like to think the car's worth more. As in "I have a $65k car that I got for $54k." No you don't. You have a $54k car.
Get invoice off of Edmunds or KBB.. then, head to your dealer and have them show you their invoice..
Invoice is whatever the dealer wants it to be... MSRP is MSRP..
Negotiation is a different matter.. but, when someone posts that they got ABC car for $500 over invoice... you still can't be sure what that number means..
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What are you guys getting for offer from dealer for the 08 A6. I was hoping for a 09 A6 with the supercharger, but if the 08 is going for so much less, I might just go for the 08.
Thanks
some help please would be appreciated. hows this sound:
a6 3.2 quattro
premium
tech
sline
navigation
ipod
48000 pretax.
51k Miles.
Oyster Gray.
Prem Pkg.
18 Inch Wheels.
Cold Weather Pkg.
Rain Sensing Wipers.
XM Radio.
All Wheel Drive.
Ski Sack.
Xenons.
Paid 22,500.
Threw on "Pot Hole Insurance." $500.00
Total was around 25,200 with all fees and tax.
Good Deal?
My Question is how much would the Nav cost to install? I saw some "Nav" kits on eBay, but my dealers head mechanic said they can't be installed, nor do they work. He said the nav job would cost 4,000 for them to install the nav, because the whole car needed to "Re-Wired" and I need a new "Shark-Fin" The dealers head mechanic also said that the Ipod adapter can't be installed either on the 2005.
Some Concerns with the Quality of the Car I'm Afraid
First Week Problems:
Sunroof "Spring" came lose, was out a car 4 days to Fix and Order parts.
Rear Seatbelt "Plug-in" got sucked up in the retracter.
Rear Cupholders broken; Did not deploy.
Front Passenger Seatbelt outlet broke.
I love the way the car drives, the look, the performance, and the AWD.
I bought a 2005 last weak from a very respected Audi dealer in Jersey, loaded. 51k miles, which may sound like a lot, but its not considering the CPO warranty.
Paid $22,500
2500 cash
3000 old inventory incentive
Plus any loyalty (1500 A4, 2500 A6)
Residual 46%, 12k, 36month, MF .00081
Don't forget most A6's were marked down with a "Value Enhancement Credit" of 5150
We just leased a car originally stickered at 54295 and sold today at 39804 including Audi Care. We paid 7k below current invoice near 46k. We turned in an expiring A4 lease.
The lease was less than 530 per month. A great car and FINALLY an amazing deal....We are BACK from our M35 to A6!
But remember, it is for old inventory only!
If it was orginally a $54k msrp, I'm assuming it included tech and s line, right?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm looking at an a6 myself, and I'm also about to finish my a4 lease.
The Dealer was in NJ but the car will be registered in a state that requires taxes to be paid upfront and on the total selling price of the vehicle. A really sucky state for motor vehicles!
NO tech or S line. Just Premium, Nav, Ipod, 18" wheels.
It DOES NOT include tax.
Interestingly enough, I have not seen this incentive posted anywhere. But my dealer went through 75% of his A6 stock by yesterday after this came across his desk...
Would you please share the dealer's name and the price? I'm also looking for either the A4 or the A6 but didn't see any good deal so far...
Thanks a bunch!
I'm very close to buying this car, what was your final out the door price?
Thanks
Even if they have spent total 9 weeks to figure out and been trying to resolve the issue the car has, still they have not resolved the issue. Now what can i handle this situation?
I am very skeptical to keep that. In order to evade a lemon law, they have not wanted to release the car before they confirm that the issue is resolved.
This means that I may drive a4 several weeks more.
I am really regretting about purchasing a A6 instead of lexus GS series ( expected better reliability).
the best thing I want is to return and purchase another brand.
Any suggestion for this situation would be appreciated.
Thanks a ton.
thanks a bunch! :shades:
Sorry I was busy the past few days. I just sent you mail.
Problems with vehicle:
1.) air conditioning fitting replaced
2.) black paint peeled and repainted on side moldings
3.) alarm system failed and rebuilt
4.) driver/front passenger window crank assembly replaced
5.) climate control module replaced
6.) heater blower motor replaced
7.) valve cover/cam cover gaskets leaking and replaced
8.) secondary cooling fan motor burned out and replaced
9.) turbos cooked and replaced
10.) 4 sets of front brake rotors replaced
11.) heat shield broken from exhaust and taken off to prevent rattling
12.)air bag light sensor on...not repaired
13.) front bumper upgrade underneath, almost torn off parking under curb stop.
14.)air conditioning weak on hot summer days....not repaired
15.) heater motor blower weak on cold winter days.....no further repair`
16.) front fog light burned out....assembly replaced
17.) remote key fob has poor distance....battery replaced.....no change
Sold car in 2006 w/ 99,900 miles for $11,500.00.
Would definately return and purchase another brand , if possible. The Audi was a great driving car w/ a fantastic interior and just plain poor mechanics/electrical components. An incredibly complicated vehicle to repair which should not be owned w/o warranty protection. A 3 year lease and return example would be best case situation for this type of automobile.
Sport Suspension 1BE
Shades 3Y5
Floor Mats 6MM
Audi Ipod 7D3
Audi Lane Assist 7Y2
Navigation PND
19" Wheels PQ4
I made $1k deposit for dealer to ship car (he says cost him $400 for 120 miles ) from another out of state dealer and then "found out" it was test drive car with 350 miles! They dropped $1k on price and agree to pay shipping when I complained.
Dealer is quoting $62,330 MSRP Edmunds shows $63.800
Last offer from dealer $52,800 before tax, etc.
Are the following dealer incentives still in effect from a Nov 18 post on this board?
Nov 18 A6 incentives
2500 cash
3000 old inventory incentive
5150 value incentive credit
If so, I calculate his costs (invoice-incentives) at $48,861
Should a test drive car get an additional discount?
Should I pay any other compensation for him getting it from another dealer?
PS:
Dealer is listing almost identical but <10 mile car ($2k fewer options but wrong color) for $49.9k Retail on Internet
I would like to have drive off fee's only.
Please help
Any recent So FL A6 lease experiences anyone can share?
WB6 - Sunroof Package
PPX - Premium Package
PAW - Cold Weather Package
QU0 - XM Satellite Radio
2ZM - Heated steering wheel
With around 25-40k Miles
According to Edmunds with those options and clean condition
Dealer Retail
25k Miles - $25,368, CPO - $27,855
40k Miles - $24,372, CPO - $26,825
What do you think though? This would be my first dealer purchased car so I don't want to get taken. I was thinking with 30k miles and CPO around $23,500?
Thanks in advance!
We absolutely love the car!