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When I ordered my 04 Prius the sales person seemed a little hesitant about indicating a color on the order. (I selected the Salsa Red)
dupie61
battery weight - 38.7 kg
vehicle weight - 1257 kg
battery takes 3.0 % of vehicle's weight.
In Prius-2004
battery weight - 29.1 kg
vehicle weight - 1313 kg
battery takes 2.2 % of vehicle's weight.
That’s a significant reduction in battery weight while generating
the same amount of power.
The regular (dealer) orders are quite diverse for the 2004. For the 2001, factory order options (internet only, like the pre-order process) were literally limited to just color selection. Lots has changed since then.
JOHN
Now is the option available to everyone. The variety of packages to choose from is much wider too.
"Stealth" is available on all Prius. It's an inherit part of the design. When the emissions system is warm and the power demand is below 21kW, the engine will remain off. This allows you to drive up to 42 MPH using only electricity. When demands goes above the threshold, the engine will momentarily restart. If that was only to get up the a hill, the engine will quickly shut off once you get to the top.
The upper-limit of stealth is expected to increase with the 2004, since the motor and power available has increased. But I haven't heard what that limit is yet.
JOHN
in the home market (Japan), and maybe Europe.
EV Button would allow you to tell the car that you're
going a short distance, don't bother turning on the
engine, such as you're just parking the car in the
garage at night and don't wish to wake anyone...
(The Prius otherwise will go into EV whenever it
feels like it, based on power demand and emissions...)
The self-park feature that has been getting a lot
of press lately, would let the car reverse and
park itself (say, parallel park, like in the demo
footage available), while you set the marker points
from the rear-camera video footage, and you also
brake the car (you don't have to steer).
For all the press, it'd be nice if it was available
here in the US, but... Maybe later? (Sort of like
getting cruise control as an option on the 2002
Prius, as it wasn't available in the US on 2001s...
(but you can retrofit cruise to a 2001 - the
Toyota kit works great.))
Just make sure that IF you're asked for a deposit,
that it is refundable.
Dealers that have some clue about the 2004, are
taking orders. Some are just for right of first
refusal, while others are trying to order through
their region the specific color/option package
that you're looking for.
Call around. If the salesperson that you're talking
to isn't Prius-savvy, try another salesperson, or
go to another dealership. Usually the internet or
fleet or hybrid specialist is the person most likely
to know about what's going on with the 2004s.
You'll probably have better luck if you know that
your local dealership is Prius-certified (has a
Prius-trained mechanic on staff). There's a search
option on the Toyota dealer locator.
http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/dealers/dealers_prius/index.html
Unlike cruise control where the operator has the expectation of needing to override the control by tapping the brakes, and still needs to steer, this auto-park feature's expectations is no human intervention.
So say as the Prius is self-parking it has an accident. An example might be a child running from the side behind the car. Or one of the sensors is covered with snow or mud, or has an intermittent electrical problem. Is Toyota responsible or the driver, who really isn't driving?
I could see that being a very messy issue in the U.S.
> override the control by tapping the brakes
That would stop the parking attempt too.
> sensors is covered with snow or mud
A quick diagnostic check before beginning would sense that problem and prevent the option from even being used.
> child running from the side behind the car
Any movement detected in the danger area would cause an immediate abort, which should result in a virtually instant stop since movement is so slow anyway.
> Is Toyota responsible or the driver
The driver... just like with the Navigation system, you'd have to press "yes" to accept the liability before the system is allowed to proceed.
JOHN
I'd call that a "regular" order, since the package options are completely different now from those that were available before July 21.
And by the way, when you go to the dealer, ask for the special-effect handout on the Electrochromic mirror. It's one of those plastic-coated sheets that changes images when you move it back & forth. On the back you'll see that it is available for all of Toyota's vehicles in 2004. Having a mirror that dims automatically for you is really handy.
JOHN
Also, some video:
Movie Catalog - Advanced Equipment: Smart Entry, EV Mode, Intelligent Parking Assist, Interiors
(For EV mode "55km/h" displays amidst parenthetical Japanese text...any translators out there to explain the context?)
Most people if they have this option will be getting their bags together while it parks, and not paying attention. The parking system will not be checked.
And as far as trusting automation and technology, I work in Mfg. as an engineer, and I would never guarantee you that hardware and software is not foolproof. You can minimize the chances of something happening through such things as Failure Mode Analysis, but that only reduces probabilities of accidents.
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seriously
I'd like to get a sticker to put in my rear window, or maybe in the front, that says the same
might be helpful to keep my new Cadillac SRX from getting tagged by a single-issue environmentalist while it is parked and I am inside running a meeting trying to stop a commercial development from destroying 200 acres of sensitive wildlife habitat (seriously)
license plate frames), but there are a lot of
places that show up if you Google for
"custom license plate frame" ...
If I were a bumper sticker person, I'd probably
do a bulk order of "my other car is a Prius" and
resell them. (Whenever my husband's 2004 Prius
comes in, it'd be kinda neat to be a 2 Prius
household with those stickers (probably taped up
in the rear window)...)
I have been browsing this board for a few days now and would like to get your opinion on this:
Based on the options that I have picked out for the '04 Prius, If I added a couple of hundreds bucks, I can get a Mini Cooper S.
So there is my dilema...Cooper S or Prius? I love both cars...the Prius may be more practical but the Cooper S is such a fun car...
Any thoughts or input will be appreciated.
Tony.
At times, people land in this type of dilemma.
The similar features of the 2 vehicles are
* hatchback
* unique design
* ample luggage capacity when 2nd row seat folded
* fun vehicle than can be a head turner
differences
Prius-2004 outperforms MINI
* in mileage
* luggage capacity
* passenger comfort
* tech gimmicks
* 5 passenger capacity to Mini's 4
while Mini outpeforms Prius-2004
* in acceleration
* even more easier to park
* stick shift option is provided.
Overall, I will vote for Prius-2004 as it provides comfort for 5
while Mini is only for 2 comfortably and 4 uncomfortably.
After all comfort 1st.
I am planning on the 6 cylinder, but it is still more wasteful than I like, especially since I want AWD.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
than the Toyota for the mainland USA) doesn't
really know much on the 2004 Prius, beyond what's
on the toyota.ca website. (You may have to dig
through the press releases there to find info...)
Some dealers seem to have a clue, though, but
they're hard to find. Where in Canada are you
located?
Last I've heard the dealers will only get much of
their 2004 Prius information about 2 weeks before
the car arrives in Canada (which looks to be demos
in the mid-October timeframe). Although some
dealers do have pricing and option (only 1 Prius
in Canada, no options, doesn't come with navigation)
information, and that has been posted on some
internet sites. (Some people are thinking of importing a US 2004...)
From what I've heard, sales of the current 2001-2003
Prius in Canada has been about 1/10 of the sales
in the US.
(a little over 20,000 Prius were sold in the US in calendar
year 2002, while news reports put the Mini at around
30,000.)
The Prius would have far better MPG and lower
smog-forming emissions than the Mini during your
ownership.
Not having driven a Mini or a 2004 Prius (the 2004
isn't out in the US yet), I can't say what would
be better for you, or what the handling is like.
If you can wait until Oct./Nov. when dealers start
getting 2004 Prius for demo vehicles, I'd suggest
that you do a test-drive of the 2004 and also a
test drive of a Mini somewhere, and see how each
feels to you. How do you fit, how's your sight
lines, is it easy to handle for you, etc.
I do know that when I took a test drive of a 2001
Prius way back when (Sept. 2000, IIRC), it was a
surprisingly fun car to drive. Since I've had my
2001 Prius, the fun hasn't worn off. I'd suspect
that the improved 2004 Prius would still have the
neat fun factor.
Don't forget, the Prius does have the fun "stealth"
(engine shuts off, quiet, no vibration, driving on
electric) driving aspects. takes a bit of stress
out of a backed-up stop'n'go traffic situation.
some owners call it "Zen mode" driving.
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/mini/cooper/100330897/specs.html?- tid=edmunds.n.prices.leftsidenav..8.MINI*
In Prius-2004, it is 16.1 cu ft, but if you fold the rear seat, it should more than double.
Vehicles like Mini, Beetle, Golf are lovable, but they dont match Prius-2004 in comfort, utility, mileage, technology, etc.
But what about the Prius, or the MINI, in the snow? How do they go when it really starts to come down and stick?
Thanks!
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
http://www.mensjournal.com/agenda/0310/cars_prius.html
Enjoy,
Tony.
That sign won't "deceive, inveigle, obfuscate" your writing off the prius as a business expense, garaging it, and conducting business in your 18-mpg vehicle.
Granted it's not as bad as an Excursion or Suburban at approx. 13 mpg.
I have low-energy clothes washer and dryer. Photovoltaic electricity being generated on my roof. 90% of my home energy consumption is done at night (when more power is available and is cheaper). I recycle. I reuse. I remodeled my home in a very sustainable way.
But I KNOW if I buy an SRX someone is gonna key it because I am a PIG.
maybe if I put a Save the Whales logo in the window, along with a Save Mono Lake logo, Save the Redwoods logo, Nature Cosnervancy, Audobon, NRDC, and all the other Saves I belong to.
nah, I am still gonna get keyed
For a small fee, the 2004 Prius Navigation System manual PDFs are downloadable from Toyota's TIS (Technical Information System).
Main site for registering: Toyota TIS
Source of NAV files: 2004 Prius Navigation System Manual pdfs
"...the NAV manual covers Bluetooth, NAV, and Voice recognition."
only 2 adults can sit comfortably in
the front seat and backseat is mostly for kids. May be adults
in back seat can go for a short drive. Now if you buy Mini, it will
be just another MR-2.
But if you buy a Prius-2004, you are getting a proper 5-seater vehicle
which can be used to take your friends and also be a daily driver
(it gives 59 mpg in city driving).
adp3 : I can give 2 suggestions for you.
1. Keep your Cadillac SRX for 2 years and when Hybrid Sienna hits
the market in 2005, you can trade in your SRX for that.
2. If you can maintain 2 vehicles, then buy a Prius-2004 and a
used minivan, whenever you want to go with 7 persons, then you
can take out the minivan. Rest of the time, have fun in Prius.
I'll have to add the options to the Corolla to match the Prius I guess, and use the Invoice price and see how that looks. Then I can figure out the fuel savings. I think the Corolla still will be less though, AND of course it has a longer knwon history of reliability. The Prius though has the fascination of being ultra-modern.
> MSRP at all?
Right now, be grateful that you don't have to pay more than MSRP for such a high-demand, low-volume vehicle. Later next year, you'll likely see minor markdown like the classic had. (In my area, it was about $500 less.)
JOHN