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Toyota TACOMA vs Ford RANGER - IV



  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    Then you are blind. Any idiot can see the conditions are totally different.


    I don't have photos of my truck. I don't take photos of machines. Sorry.

    Now women...thats a whole different story.
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    Aren't the Ford Transmissions made by Renault in France? Anyone remember the Renault cars? lol.
  • reddogsreddogs Posts: 353
    we replaced the LTDII with a Corolla and Accord now we are a Toyota/Honda family....
  • reddogsreddogs Posts: 353
    hey "reddog" (my nickname is actually "bulldog" but you can see why I don't like it), why don't buy a Ford this year, my eyes kind of glaze over... You want stats/data/transmission facts...please I've lived the battle not counted the stats from the sidelines with a "win one for the team soldier" attitude from some people. You get out their and roll the dice with your hard earned money, I'll stick with quality/reliabilty and bulletproof Toyota's and Honda's....
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611
    Well, sorry for your problems, however, they do seem to be associated with the "Make" nameplate", not the Ranger "Model" nameplate. There is a big difference if you look at it that way. I do believe I offered a URL that shows the transmission refered to was offered in EARLYER Rangers, not the CURRENT Ranger.

    No one has answered my questions regarding Toyota transmissions.

    The Ranger in question went through the same place the Toyota did. The shot is from a greater distance. You accept as fact some pictures from a Tacoma site that have no text stating that the Tacoma was pulling out an F150, or visa/versa, yet do not accept these pictures. What gives?

    I will check with the guy and see what stopped the Toyota. I am a bit curious too.

    The Tacoma plant in Fremont is at least 30 years old. I also understand that it was first used to build Corolla's in a Chevy format, the newer Nova I believe. I would suspect that it was retooled to a degree for the Tacoma.

    I was wrong on the Jersey Ford plant. The one I remember is in Metuchen.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611
    spoog, as I understand it the Ranger automatic is Ford built and the 5 speed manual is Mazda built, Japanese.

    So where is the Toyota 5 speed automatic? Drawing board maybe. . .?
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    Like I said, any idiot can see that the Toyota puddle conditions were ALOT wetter than the pic of the Ranger driving through the same hole.
    The Tacoma was in a little pond, whereas the Ranger is just going through some slick mud. Open your eyes.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611
    Well I have the crop, however the Ranger one is in bitmap and is too large to upload right now.

    You can CLEARLY see that it is the same whole and the Ranger is plowing water. Also, the bushes by the Toy are the same as beside the Ranger.

    You will see tonight, had to lighten the Ranger and Toy one to show better definition. But they are the same place.

    The Ranger is dug in quite a bit in the rear grabbing what traction there is. I THINK the Ranger is lifted and at least 31" if not 33" tires. It is a pretty good close up crop of the existing picture.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    Just read some news about the new TAcoma's coming out in the next year or so. I guess Toyota is once again taking styling que's from Ford/Chevy. They are coming out with a stepside Tacoma, shortbed Tacoma and a 4door Tacoma. The article didn't say excatly when these were going to debut. Also rumors of a high perf 2wd Tacoma of some sort. This to compete with the popular Chevy S10 SS? or Extreme I guess.
    I wonder what Happened to Jim27 and his Tacoma that failed while offroad and left him stranded. Hope he comes back to let us know what happened.
  • I think everyone that has posted in this topic should get together for a big picnic and off-road adventure'd be fun
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    Toyota has been offering 4 door crew cab compact pickups for decades. They were the first company to offer such a thing.
  • wsnoblewsnoble Posts: 241
    Toyota is serious about 4wd unlike Ford...

    Click on start and check it out. also if you have Quicktime, click start and then the VTR icon.

    my .02
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,124
    OH COME ON! This is a HUMMER in disguise or a HUMMER clone! I guess Toyota will be credited with the engineering the HUMMER next huh? The HUMMER (American made no less) is the ultimate offroader, hands down. lets see how a Land Cruiser stands up to a Hummer, about the same price, LOL.
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Posts: 1,352
    I think I saw Godzilla in one of those forest scenes.
  • Now not only are you the spokesperson for Ford but all things that are not Toyota. Take a look at other vehicles in the Hummers class like the Unimog they are all very similar. I know several people who after driving the Hummer were less then impressed after getting several National Guard hummers stuck in a whopping 20" of snow. The same storm I was driving my Mazda 323 through.
  • I dont see any hummers crossing Anartica
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611
    Could you translate the previous page of your link? Hmm. perhaps I could find the translation in the Japanese version of the California Drivers test manual. . .
    In a country where the price of a gal. of gas is more than a gal. of milk, they build that?

    Now wonder we won WWII. . . per
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611
    Could you translate the previous page of your link? Hmm. perhaps I could find the translation in the Japanese version of the California Drivers test manual. . .
    In a country where the price of a gal. of gas is more than a gal. of milk, they build that?

    Now wonder we won WWII. . . per
  • wsnoblewsnoble Posts: 241
    My Point was that Toyota is more serios about 4wd based on all their offerings world wide. Did anybody else, who wasn't scared of by the japenese text, check out the other links. You would have see the other Landcruisers offered throughtout the world. also you would have seen the 4 door hilux/tacoma they offered long before anybody else.

    Vince my boy what was your point in bringing up the Hummer when i was comparing Ford and Toyota. Was that your way of avoiding the obvious? Yes it does look like the Hummer as do most vehicles in that class. As is my point. Does Ford offer something in this class? If so i would love to see it.


    "The HUMMER(American made no less) is the ultimate offroader,hands down."

    Is this based on something or just your OPINION?

    "lets see how a Land Cruiser stands up
    to a Hummer, about the same price"

    Again off the subject of my post, but i would love to see what a stock version of both could do. I'm not doubting the Hummer's ability, but lets also test it against a Ford, oh ya they don't have one...

    Spoog what did you think of that 4 wheel steering? Awsome huh?

    My .02
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    A 1997 Road and Track comparison test verse a Jeep Grand Cherokee, Jeep Wrangler, Hummer, Land Cruiser, and an Isuzu rodeo took place in the Mojave desert, amidst large sand dunes.

    Guess which vehicle finished first? The Land Cruiser. AND YES THEY SAID IT WAS BETTER ON THE DUNES THAN THE HUMMER, AND IN MOST OTHER OFFROAD APPLICATIONS. The Jeep Wrangler finished second.
    The Hummer was third. See, you couldn't drive the hummer past 55 MPH. IT got stuck in the sand, ect.

    They called the Land Cruiser " The clear winner, the DO-ALL of offroaders. We could roll up the windows, turn on the AC and not feel a bump or hear a single bit of noise as this BRAWLER offroader, disguised with a tuxedo ( the LC's appearance), drove straight up heaping sand dunes the other vehicles had trouble with in 125 degree heat as its passengers rode in the cool, comfortable, eerily silent cabin. A magnificent machine".
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    great post! that 4 wheel steering is BRILLIANT!!

    I had to check it out in the diagrams though as I couldn't get the video to work.
  • I own a V8 Tundra, man that was the smartest prcase my father ever made. We tow all we want, when we want, wherever we want. We fish for King Salmon up at Lake Ontario and we tow a 6700lbs boat for 3 hours and we do a constant 80 mph. It doesnt show any signs of strain what so ever.
    Toyota makes the best car, truck, and SUV of any other company. Even though I am only a 8th grader, I am very smart for my age. I hold a 94 average overall in my school, but yet I still get picked on because I own a "[non-permissible content removed]-car". The Tundra is fully 100% made in America. The Ford is only about 60% made in America. Most of my friends own Fords, but all of them are failing their classes, or are very stupid. This tells me that everyone who owns a Ford is stupid. I am the only one who owns a Tundra in my school but yet I am smarter that all of my friends. I admit, the Tundra has some flaws, but overall the Tundra is the best truck in its class.
    My Dad was once a Ford owner. He used to buy Rangers and F-150's and Windstars. But after 50,000 miles, they fell apart and not only that they lost half their value in 1 and a half years. You guys argue that you're Ford in the Newspaper, sells for $13,500. Its at that price because its value is worth a pile of dung.
    I hope that my following arguments have cleared up any misunderstandings. Toyota RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • reddogsreddogs Posts: 353
    I think it will allow your thoughts to become more lucid "readily understood, mentally clear, rational, consistent with reason", remember breath deep and type s l o w l y......
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611

    You can see that the bushes to the right and behind of the tire are the same. Also, the Ranger picture clearly shows the water splashing out of the way.

    Some would say the water "parted" once it was known a Ranger was coming. . .

    The story is that the Toy did suck water and lunched the engine. The Ranger went thru right after the Toy was pulled out.

    Toy man:
    Glad you liked the Toyota's, however consider this.
    The majority of my Ranger was American made, main component not American is the transmission. The Toyota is ASSEMBLED in the United States, not MADE. There is a difference.
  • At least think before saying something outrageous like that. All you do is make yourself look stupid.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611
    From CNN:

    Also, did anyone else see Leno last night? He went out into the street to ask Los Angelian's about their 4 wheel drives. Most had never had them off road other than parking lot bumps. One could not say what 4 wheel drive means. One guy got it cause its a cool car to dirve. . .

    Well, speaks for itself I guess.

    Also, anybody notice that the last two pro Toyota posters do not have verifiable email's?

    Things that make you go Hmmmm.
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611
    this was a Tacoma vs Ranger place.

    So how come Land Cruisers, Tundras, Chevy's and my own elk stories(would have counted if it was in the back of a Ranger)?

    Just things that make you go Hmmmm.

    So to take up the comments of a poster a while ago, do we have to meet in Kansas to all 4 Wheel drive together(sorry, I don't do humidity real well anymore)? Do we have to check the weapons at the gate to where ever we go?
  • cthompson21cthompson21 Posts: 1,102
    Sure, I'd go out for a truck meet. But, it had better be soon and far north where the snow's at. If I'm out on the trails, I'll be on my ski-doo.

    toyotaman4: Who is this, really? Your post sounds like some type of joke gone awry. Spoog? Hello?
  • cpousnrcpousnr Posts: 1,611
    Yeah if I had to bet, toyotaboy is a fake.
    Read the post real close and click on the screen name to view the persons stats. Looks obvious.
    Well, that happens here sometime.

    Sooo, no comments on the Ranger muddin?
    Don't see a grocery store near by. . .

    Looks like the guy was having fun but for the life of me I can never undersand why someone would put a perfectly good truck in that kind of mud. Course, some people see no fun in sliding down the hill backwards either. . .
  • spoogspoog Posts: 1,224
    Still different situations. Doesn't the ranger have it's lights on? Looks like a different day, different conditions, and obviously there was more water in it whe n the Tacoma went through.
    The Ranger would be splashing up some serious water if there was as much water when the Toyota went through.

    Tell your buddies over at the Redneck Rally homepage " Nice Try".

    Although I will say this, the 89 Rangers seemed to be a bit better in the trail department than the newer ones.
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