Why not? A lot of people found those topics very interesting as well as entertaining. A lot was learned by both sides.
The people who want to turn it into a Jerry Springer Show just need to be shut down quickly. Most of the troublemakers are long gone but sadly, a lot of the people who contributed so much have lost interest and left.
And, the people who complained don't have to visit these forums in the first place!
A lot of people DID find those discussions to be interesting. A couple of bad apples caused the death of those two topics that certainly generated a lot of traffic.
Kind of like throwing out the baby with the bath water?
ok, i thought of one today. I don't know how much action it would get, or if its been tried before, but here goes.
How bout a topic like "Current best new car deals"? And I'm not talking about "msrp is a great deal on this car" kind of thing, but I'd like one place where folks can post specials like $10k off msrp or invoice minus $4k rebates kind of deals. I'm always willing to consider a great deal, but it might be for a car I don't necessarily track in the Prices Paid discussions.
Seems like the topic about Rebates and Incentives would cover it, but the only action there is when people ask about rebates available for a specific car ... if nobody asks, it doesn't get posted there. PLUS, a great deal might not involve currently published rebates. Someone might be out there right now getting a screaming deal on a leftover '05 something or other, but we wouldn't know about it because the '05 rebates/incentives are no longer easily found.
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Of course I would believe it. Look on the bright side. If my wifes spare key only opened the door, then I always get to take the car and don't get stuck driving her Envoy. Sounds good to me. Thanks for the idea.
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... when initially denied. I read and heard a lot of complaints of denying a coverage for more or less bogus reasons. Looks like some dealer guys could explain why and advise on possible steps to take to get it reconsidered.
More on the subject - is it possible that some dealers "double dip", i.e. tell the customer the claim had been denied and charge them, while also collecting warranty money? Why I come with this is, when e.g somebody has 40K timing belt failure, which causes failures of other elements, the dealer would say "shoudn't have cracked the engine" - the biggest load of BS I could hear (so I am on the highway, my car just shut of the engine, I don't know why, I try to crank it couple of times and you tell me that is the reason to deny the coverage :mad: )
Dealers can deny warranty claims. However, most of the OEMs have an appeals procedure that will reevaluate the claim. Generally, dealers tend to be MORE helpful in trying to get someone a warranty clain as they want you to come back to them for your next purchase.
As for warranty **FRAUD**, sure it happens. Locally, one GM dealer was billing GM for warranty work that was NOT performed. I do not know what the final resolution of the court case BUT ... they are NO LONGER selling GM products.
Sorry for the repost but I'm not getting any answers on any of the boards. I was looking at a 03 CTS and it is priced on-line at $22,770 and it has only 23,988 miles on it. It has the (I beleive) the Bose speakers, it has two-toned black and gray interior, and has the wood package. I am trading in a 02 TL (72,466 miles) and was appraised by both Carmax and another dealership. Carmax was willing to give me $11000 and the dealership where the CTS is located will give me $12000. I was only able to get them down to $22,200 and after that they wouldn't budge a bit. Does anyone think this a good deal? I have a pre-approved loan and I'm at 5.7%.
does the caddy have the moonroof? if so, fair price for you would be around $21k. If no open sky, that's a $750 penalty.
Your TL is, in fact, worth a bit under $11k as a trade ... SO, given they are offering you $1k more on your trade, but taking $1k more on the Caddy (again, only if it has the moonroof), it sounds like the deal is fine. Nobody is getting rich on it, and you aren't killing anyone. So its fair for both parties, IMO.
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Hello...Im glad I found this site there is alot of info I am interested in here thanks. I am preparing to start a new career as an auto salesman and would love the opportunity to here the pro's and con's of auto sales as a career from other salesman on the site. I have 12 years experience as a self employed owner operator in 2 different service oriented businesses and every dollar I earned was the result of my selling a service to a customer. I am hoping that this sales experience will translate to auto sales and that I will find success in that line of work and would love to here others experience. If not a new thread then if you could direct me to similar topics that would be great. I have search on a few related keywords and been unable to come up with related discussions...thanks in advance for your help
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With the '07s out and coming out, there are deals to be made on the '06s and especially on any '05s that might be around. If there are any special negotiating techniques for these cars, or anything special to be aware of, it'd be good to know.
Everyone says "You should be able to get a great deal" but nobody really wants to say what qualifies as that. Should I be able to get under invoice? How far? Do I get dealership extras?
Hi tsgeisel. Generally speaking, a good deal on a leftover vehicle, i.e. one where the next model year is already available, is dealer invoice minus any available customer or dealer incentives. You can find the dealer invoice of the car or truck that you are interested in by visiting the following section of this site: Edmunds.com New Vehicle Prices. If you let me know exactly which model you want I can tell you what incentives are available on it right now.
You may be able to find out more information on what a good deal would be on the vehicle that you want by visiting the following discussion: "Just what is a good deal?". You may also want to check out the following informative article that is available here at Edmunds.com: 10 Steps to Buying a New Car.
It would be really helpful to me and i'm sure a few others to get some tips on negotiating tactics and strategy when buying a car from a dealer cash. How low can you really ask?
its no different from negotiating as if you weren't paying in cash. The dealer realistically doesn't care if you are paying them or the bank is paying them in your name. As a matter of fact, I suggest not letting them know you are paying cash, if you can, until its time to actually pay. Dealers can make money on the backend by getting you financed in-house. So they MAY give you a bit better deal up front if they think they will make money on you on the backend.
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Any thought about a place which lists current specials, like that killer Explorer lease deal they had a while back, 24 months, $0 down, $299/mo. It would cut down on visiting all the models of interest threads, having them centrally located... Thanks!
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The people who want to turn it into a Jerry Springer Show just need to be shut down quickly. Most of the troublemakers are long gone but sadly, a lot of the people who contributed so much have lost interest and left.
And, the people who complained don't have to visit these forums in the first place!
How about I send you a Lamborghini T-Shirt?
We'll see if we can't think of some new, interesting discussions, though.
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We'll see if we can't think of some new, interesting discussions, though.
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We'll see if we can't think of some new, interesting discussions, though.
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We'll see if we can't think of some new, interesting discussions, though.
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Kristie is holding out for the actual vehicle.
Then, old Lazurus will rise again. :P
A lot of people DID find those discussions to be interesting. A couple of bad apples caused the death of those two topics that certainly generated a lot of traffic.
Kind of like throwing out the baby with the bath water?
Would a Honda keychain help?
Thought the server was eating my post, but if it did, it came back up.
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2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
How bout a topic like "Current best new car deals"? And I'm not talking about "msrp is a great deal on this car" kind of thing, but I'd like one place where folks can post specials like $10k off msrp or invoice minus $4k rebates kind of deals. I'm always willing to consider a great deal, but it might be for a car I don't necessarily track in the Prices Paid discussions.
Seems like the topic about Rebates and Incentives would cover it, but the only action there is when people ask about rebates available for a specific car ... if nobody asks, it doesn't get posted there. PLUS, a great deal might not involve currently published rebates. Someone might be out there right now getting a screaming deal on a leftover '05 something or other, but we wouldn't know about it because the '05 rebates/incentives are no longer easily found.
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"can any of the good folks here inform if race has anything to do with deal one is likely to get ?"
Which topic should they post it under?
"Suppose a dirty, almost homeless-looking gent walks in and wants to check out an expensive car? Do you waste your time?"
What topic should he post it under?
Would you be happy with a spare key like that?
Yes, I do expect an answer.
Secondly, what about safety? How do you prevent against the wacko coming to your house and do you just let a stranger take off and do a test drive??
Help and insight needed!!
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As the E-Commerce Director of a large store I would like to know what people are thinking and I would like to share my thoughts too.
More on the subject - is it possible that some dealers "double dip", i.e. tell the customer the claim had been denied and charge them, while also collecting warranty money? Why I come with this is, when e.g somebody has 40K timing belt failure, which causes failures of other elements, the dealer would say "shoudn't have cracked the engine" - the biggest load of BS I could hear (so I am on the highway, my car just shut of the engine, I don't know why, I try to crank it couple of times and you tell me that is the reason to deny the coverage :mad: )
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As for warranty **FRAUD**, sure it happens. Locally, one GM dealer was billing GM for warranty work that was NOT performed. I do not know what the final resolution of the court case BUT ... they are NO LONGER selling GM products.
we've already got one - Internet vs. Traditional Car Buying
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2) How To Get The Best Price On A Preowned Vehilce.
(Purchasing strategies to vague and usually focused on new)
3) Ask Jipster (have your financial and personal problems solved by yours truely)
2) Purchasing Used Vehicles
3) Um....
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I was looking at a 03 CTS and it is priced on-line at $22,770 and it has only 23,988 miles on it. It has the (I beleive) the Bose speakers, it has two-toned black and gray interior, and has the wood package. I am trading in a 02 TL (72,466 miles) and was appraised by both Carmax and another dealership. Carmax was willing to give me $11000 and the dealership where the CTS is located will give me $12000. I was only able to get them down to $22,200 and after that they wouldn't budge a bit. Does anyone think this a good deal? I have a pre-approved loan and I'm at 5.7%.
Your TL is, in fact, worth a bit under $11k as a trade ... SO, given they are offering you $1k more on your trade, but taking $1k more on the Caddy (again, only if it has the moonroof), it sounds like the deal is fine. Nobody is getting rich on it, and you aren't killing anyone. So its fair for both parties, IMO.
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Everyone says "You should be able to get a great deal" but nobody really wants to say what qualifies as that. Should I be able to get under invoice? How far? Do I get dealership extras?
There are questions to be answered here.
You may be able to find out more information on what a good deal would be on the vehicle that you want by visiting the following discussion: "Just what is a good deal?". You may also want to check out the following informative article that is available here at Edmunds.com: 10 Steps to Buying a New Car.
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