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Earlier today, a link was posted to the article below. Basically out of 4 catagories, the Frontier won 3 three of them over the Tacoma. Now, granted, its the Detroit News, not Motor Trend, but word is already out that the Frontier is going to be THE hottest truck on the market over the next year. That engine is the best V6 in any truck on the planet.
If you have to buy now, rest assured paying a few dollars extra today will just give you more smile time then those of us who wait.
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosconsumer/0412/29/G01-44377.htm
centralcal...you were offered $1000 under MSRP? when did you order it?
if you didnt order it, then i can smell the smoke that was blown my way. a deal like that on a hot new product before it even comes out??? if you dont take that deal, then send me the dealer info. so i can buy 3 or 4 of them.
I deleted his name and number from the email, but if you are interested I will send it.
I think that with the $3000 I save, I can get a great trip to Seattle and a one day drive home. Not too bad, I guess you can give this extra $3000 to the dealer. Also, the pleasure of not having to haggle over the cost, priceless.
agree: do your research before buying anything.
disagree: holdback is not a fixed number...go to "questions for a dealer" and ask terry, driftracer, or anyone else exactly how holdback works compared to floorplan interest, and your eyes will be opened.
secondly, dealers dont WANT you sitting there for hours...if they can get the deal done and get you out, they will...its people that dont know better who are willing to SIT THERE for hours...dealers just go at their own pace as long as you are still sticking around. why rush it when you dont have to?
last, out of the millions af new vehicles sold every year, if you thing someone is deluded enough to try to sell cars or increase profits on a site like this, then its you who are being deluded.
Deluded
It's pretty obvious to me. If you have to have the frontier right now, you're gonna pay more for it than you will if you wait a short time. I think this is pretty obvious, but maybe not.
I'll admit, I'm not ready to make the jump into the dealership and start negotiating over price, because the dealers have a distinct advantage right now, and will try and maximize profits NOW, while the demand is high and the supply is scarce. I don't blame them. Car sales is a cut throat business, not only between makes, but between sales guys on the same floor.
Some see this give and take as a matching of the wills, and take the bargaining jousting as a fun part of the game. I'd rather avoid confrontation and let someone more hard nosed do that work for me. And for a small fee, there are plenty of services willing to go to war on my behalf.
I made the drive down to Long Beach today, from the rains of the SF bay area to be with family for New Years. Coming down the 710 toward the 405, I saw at least 5 car carriers with a mix of Nissans (yeah - Frontiers) coming out of the port of Long Beach.
They are coming into the dealers in force now buyers, lets see someone pop up as the first 05 owner.
05 Frontier Crew Cab LE Auto 4x4 (Loaded)
Smoke Gray / Steel Leather
ALBS
Sunroof Pkg
Leather Pkg
Traction Pkg
Side Air Bag Pkg
Rockford Fosgate Pkg
Floormats
(Buying sliding Bed Extender and chrome bumpers later.)
Fortunately, I was able to get in on the Nissan VPP program for Friends and Family which sells me the Nissan of my choice for 2.87% under INVOICE (not just MSRP), however there is a 2.5% dealer charge on the under invoice figure. Long story short I'm getting the above truck which has a:
Total MSRP of $31,690
With Invoice of $29,010
My Grand Total $28,953
I figure getting about $2737 off MSRP, ($60 under invoice) for a new 05 this early in the game is a great deal. Especially since dealers dont HAVE to honor the Nissan VPP; it is up to each individual dealer if they choose to honor it.
As a side note, I could have gotten my choice of 05 Frontiers through a dealer in Seattle that will sell all Nissans for $500 under invoice. However after shipping and travel costs to me, it ended up being a bit more than VPP.
In any event, it is NOT impossible to get a deal on the 05s. When I was first interested in the 05 Tacomas I called about 20 dealers and had some of them fighting for my business quoting up to $2000 off before even hitting lots. If everyone did their homework, called plenty of dealers, and just let dealers know that you are willing to buy, but will go elsewhere if need be, then deals are there to be had. Since the 05 Frontier is late to the game, one also has to take into account there is already built in competition.
Anyways, Good Luck and Happy New Year!
THANKS FROM FLORIDA
Man, I feel the same way. I drove a KC V-6 on Wednesday, and really love the handling, and quiet ride. I'm now leaning to the Tacoma Access Cab 2.7L 5-speed with SR5, just to get the stuff I want. I've had 3 Nissans before, but they sure aren't impressing me with their option lineup.
Nissan has changed their Options availability a couple of times in he last month, so maybe they'll add more stuff to the XE. They don't even have the Auto Trans available for the XE yet (website says "Late Availability). So, let's hope...
Have a great New Years.
Mods I have planned are: I will be adding the Kenwood DDX7015 Monitor and 4100 NAV package with Satellite Radio on Monday along with Chroming the facoty wheels and swapping out the general grabber tires for a little bit bigger Revo AT Dueler Tires. I will also be swapping out the colored coded bumpers for chrome ones next week as well. In any event I LOVE the truck... kicks the pants off the Tacoma in everyway, shape and form. It is also BEAUTIFUL and Tough looking all at once!
The dealer did indeed honor the VPP, and I had a few other dealers in the SoCal area say they would too as well... some wouldn't though. It is all based on dealer discretion since all they have to do is plug the VPP claim number into the system to give the price. I think I was lucky in the sense that they wanted to move as many vehicles as they could by the end of the year (today) so they were willing to move it! I'm happy as I got a really sweet truck for a great price. I know I am a guinea pig for Nissan, but I trust the VQ engine (one of the best for 10 years now) and my 01 Frontier was great for me as well.
I'm very excited... Love this truck! Good Luck to everyone and Happy New Year!
the '05 altima was never on it, and the maxima and murano were only on the list for a couple months.
after the VPP hold is released, the dealer can still deny it, but they can potentially lose allocation from nissan...but the penalties are not all that severe.
It sounds like you ordered exactly what you wanted and had it built. Is this true?
If so, what process did you go through to do this? We know you got the VPP deal, but for those of us who don't qualify, are we able to sit down with someone and "build" the Frontier of our dreams at a dealer?
Thanks, I am so pleased with the vehicle it's not even funny
Actually, I didn't order the truck at all. The second official configurations and option packages were released I figured out what I definitely wanted for sure, and if other things came with it, it was fine. Because I wanted a fully loaded 4x4, I think it helped a little.
Anyway, once I figured out what I wanted, I contacted several dealers' fleet / internet managers (Important!) and found the one or 2 that would be most honest with me and do a full inventory search on what would be available in my region (So. Cal.) in the next few months. It just so happened there were 2 exact ones available that came in this past wekk. Of course the other obstacle I had to deal with was finding a dealer to do the VPP as well. I think I had timing on my side for the VPP as it was the last day of the year, and a slow rain day, so the dealer took the VPP claim, although not without hesitating at first.
If you can't track down the exact Fronty you want, you can infact have one prebuilt with what you want... within the guidelines of Nissan's build configurator. As someone mentioned above
a place that starts with New- and ends with Nissans and a .com will can custom order one for you $750 UNDER invoice! Great deal if delivery charges dont cost too much for you.
Hope this helps!
Love the truck.
One thing missing though...
Brochures and internet specs list auto headlights as a feature.
Mine has the sensor on the dash but no auto position on the lever.
Do you have auto lights?
Yes, my light lever has 3 positions: Auto, Fog Lights, and Headlights. I have the sensor too, and it works fine. In fact it was dark and raining this morning, I put it on Auto and lights went on automatically
Strange that you don't have the word Auto on your lever. Did you get a loaded LE? The only thing I can think of, it might be part of a package that you didn't get. (like Side Air Bags, or ALBS) Not sure, would have to look into it further.
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I am going to talk to the dealer about the Auto headlights but just wanted to see if others did or didn't have them.
Oddly enough my windshield wiper control lever has a control for a rear wiper which is not available on the truck. Maybe they borrowed some Pathfinder levers when they built mine.
Ill let you know what the dealer says about all this.
Thanks.
Bob
Anybody got any more info on prices/discounts? I have had 2 dealers say they want full MSRP and then call me back and offer $750 off that. Had another say he thought he could sell a not fully loaded LE for $1500 off, but I had already told him it wasn't the one I was looking for so I think he was just fishing.