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And in the 240 Volvo someone U-turned in front of me and I'll never forget the sound of four screeching tires independently locking and unlocking. Car stopped quicker than I would have believed possible.
For my heavy foot, ABS is the way to go.
BTW - is it true that waiting for your quad cab is 4 times as bad as waiting for the "other" trucks ;=)
Here's to a SHORT wait for us all!
cowtownaggie
He is now waiting for a SECOND one to arrive...
Bootkitty.... Your story must be known for all to remember... or as you put it "Caveat emptor!"
Yes I know that bookitty has waited MUCH too long for his new truck! But, I am trying to maintain a positive attitude about his situation. (who knows - it can't hurt & it might help!)
I firmly believe he has acted like a true gentleman throughout the whole ordeal.
I doubt that I would be as cordial as he has been with his dealer.
and yes, I have read EVERY post in this forum that I can find - the more info I have about this truck, the better!
Here's hoping the bookitty is driving his quad SOON!
cowtownaggie
I just re-read my previous post to you (#577) and wanted to let you know that the comment about:
"is it true that waiting for your quad cab is
4 times as bad as waiting for the "other" trucks"
was NOT intended to be a slur against you or the wait for your truck - it was supposed to be a "pun regarding the 4 doors.
(the "you/your" was intended to be all inclusive of anyone waiting on a truck)
Howsomever - it apparently fell flat on it's face(like most of my jokes). If it hit anyone wrong I appologize.
cowtownaggie
BTW do you TOW COWS?
(Is that Cow-Tow'n- aggie or Cow-Town-Aggie?)
I know several dairy farmers and hear that Tow'n cows is best done with a Dodge Ram with the Cummins turbo-diesel.... the Cows seem to like the Dodge best ;-) (The farmers prefer the effencancy of the diesel over gasoline powerplants.)
Bookitty
the moniker was supposed to be Cowtown Aggie (Cowtown as in Ft Worth Texas) Aggie as in Texas A&M '91.
Howsomever, the @#%&!! set up profiler here at the site would not accept cap letters or spaces from my 'puter.
Yes I do tow some cows at times, wuz all set to but a 4x4 quad diesel (financed and all). looked at the PAYMENTS, realized my daughter starts college in Sept., saw the quad dakota & said for the money, this one is IT! - (some of the cows can walk for now!).
Can't wait to see what the 4x4 w/the 4.7L will be able to do. I run about 40 -50K miles a year, so by the end of the year I will have a good idea of what the 4.7 will do.
Cowtown Aggie
bobemoto - Thanks as well, but I am confused, which, sad to say, is becoming more and more my usual state. My current truck has rear ABS and I think you said that was pretty much what you would recommend for light trucks. If I remember right, isn't rear ABS standard on QCs? Do you think that is enough on a QC or did you recommend full ABS?
Once again, folks, this forum is head and shoulders above others I visit. People actually try to help others out, and do so with grace and good humor. Even guys like bookitty, who has good reason to be really woofed, has retained his sense of humor.
marellano
Well here's hoping.
Mind you, isn't Edmunds doing a phenomenal job for us consumers.
By the way - I see both of the Dak topics are on the most active list today - including spot number 1 - doesn't that speak volumes.
All the more reason to put a FAQ section in the owners' group.
Beside a few little design issues (center console, no airbag cut-off switch) and gas mileage (which really isn't that bad for 4x4 v-8) I love this truck.
Bookitty
I think we all count as 'external personnel' - well maybe not bookitty - with his patience he CAN'T be human :-)
Congrats Ernie.
(spike50) I bought the running light kit from the Big K and I still can't get it to work. I think the relay is bad. If anybody has got it to work, please respond back, I would like to talk with you.
$1200 seems like aheckalota difference! Was the "CarOrder Price" different or the "Taxes and Fees"? My "Tax and Fees" section lists fees only applicable to California residents and of course sales tax rates are different state to state.
The price of my configured truck changed $357 in ONE DAY due to the insertion of a "Manufacturer Transfer Fee"(which they kindly backed out before I actually ordered).
Bookitty, just kidding about the wait. I think maybe you should get an award as well. Maybe the local dealer and DC could throw in an extended warranty for your patience and loyalty. Your thoughtful answers to questions that I posed during my shopping days help convince to go ahead and take the plunge and buy the Quad.
Scott
Will ernie be totally out of our ordering loop. When will he be moving up? we all owe him great thanx.. been very helpfull and extreamly nice..
I am also very happy to say that I picked up my QC yesterday. Ordered on 3/13 and it arrived on 5/3. Black 4x4 Sport, 4.7, 3.55, etc... No problems with bed alignment, door alignment or the door trim. I have been the happiest guy in the office all day. No buyer's remorse here either. One awesome truck.
Have fun & be safe
Great truck, great forum, and if Ernie is training employees, the only weak link is sure to get better as well.
Ben
I'll keep you all posted.
BTW, can anyone tell me what are the advantages of ordering the Tire and Handling package (besides a break on the package price)?
Anyway, will most likely order my QC this Summer, and plan to order 4 wheel ABS.
I am still wondering if ANYONE has heard anything about the 2001 QC? May even wait till the 2001s start showing up before I make my deal.
Thanks.
tire package: Go with your needs/preferences. If you are younger and want the sportier looks and a little more height, it's probably a no brainer. In my case, this will be the family truckster. I wanted something all purpose that the wife won't have trouble loading the kids in and out of. The standard set is best for us.
ABS: gwizz - ever make a panic stop with 4 wheel ABS while hauling a 1.5 ton camper? Again, it all comes down to needs and preferences.
ABS based on the good performance from the car.
It's what I ordered (but I haven't received the
truck yet). But just having it on the rear solves
the biggest problem (rear sliding around). On the
down side of ABS, I've read that it can be
detrimental at high speed off road because stopping
in loose dirt or sand is quickest done by having a
locked (or nearly locked) wheel pushing a dam of
dirt in front of it. ABS prevents this. (At low
speeds there must be a cutoff to prevent you from
rolling forever at 1mph.) But this isn't a common
application and certainly not mine (I off road on
just two wheels).
But by now you've probably already got your truck.
Andy, hip hip for organization and faqs
Ernie, congratulations
gwizz, No clue on 2001. Is ABS better for the heavy camper?
I test drove a 98 Dakota with ABS, and liked it a lot. I just wasn't satisfied with the insurance discount(save $15 every 6 months) to justify the spending the extra money on ABS. I had a 94 Taurus with ABS, and I could still spin the car around (360 deg.) while braking if the roads were slick enough (glare ice). ABS probably saved me from one potential accident though.
Tire/handing package is probably worth it. Color match wheel flare with the larger tires really make the truck sharp. My salesman talked me into the Sport-Plus package. I just wanted a plain Jane with speed and air. It was $72 difference in configurations for the Sport-Plus package.
P.S. I have finally stopped thinking about my old 92 Dakota.
On most vehicles the speedometer reading is matched to the specific axle ratio through a little gear which is often in the transmission at the end of the speedometer cable. I have no clue how it is set up in the Quad. A roughly 10% difference in the axle ratio would probably mean our speedometers would be way off at highway speeds. After the swap I would be moving 10% faster than the speedometer says and you would be moving 10% slower.
RDuplechin@aol.com
Do want to congratulate Ernie on his well deserved move. Also many thanks for shepherding this order between the dealer and D/C "Central" and the calls keeping me up to date on each step.
Not too many people attain cult hero status and have awards named after them. That's the way to do it though, going out a winner. Thanks again and have a good "last day" today.
from the factory on 4/10 or 4/11.
Green two wheel drive QC Sport with 4.7L, auto, 3.55 rear, 4W ABS, HD cooling, Trailer Towing pack and Sport Plus pack. I plan on using it as a family vehicle for pulling a 900lb popup camper and also as a mountain bike/people mover. I also order the 4 wheel drive flares from the parts department that I want to put on myself. I didnt need a 4 wheel drive truckbecause I do not plan to go off road and I only travel 3 miles a day to work. I have not boughta new car/truck in 15 years and I am very excited.
I drove the truck on Wednesday less than an hour
after it came off the truck and had a blast.
Should I look for anything in particular when I
pick the truck up, I read something in the forum
about bed alignment, door alignment, are these
obvious problems? I did't notice them on Wednesday
but I was very excited.
Bookitty
ANYWAY I am not thinking of a soft Tonneau cover, and I NEED HELP! What kind is recommended??? Snaps or snapless?? I read about EXTANG here earlier ($209). Any experience imparted upon another Quadder would be much appreciated. Thanks!
ABS - hey you knew I was going to jump in.
OK, at the risk of maligning people's driving ability (not intended) here goes:
I think 4 wheel ABS is a help to the average driver in normal situations, I think it has a number of disadvantages (many of which have been discussed) and will never replace driving ability as a safety measure. There are some situations where 4 wheel ABS is undoubtedly better than 2 wheel ABS, but to my mind no driver should put themselves in that kind of position - they invariably involve marginal driving (road) conditions where ABS can help the car maintain traction.
There are situations where 4 wheel ABS is a positive disadvantage, in my case offroading for example. For my mind, if you use the car in average situations and can afford it then it won't hurt, but similarly don't worry if you don't have it.
Now the concept of a modern truck without ABS on the rear wheels is a wholly different, and very scary concept.