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They compared it to Lexus in the ads, but it cannibalized it's big brother because of the similar styling.
Remember the Roy Rogers commercial? Nissan aped Lexus, then Roy's aped Nissan. It was hilarious.
Toyota is awesome.... but, yeah, I did a double take on that price!
'00 volvo looks totally unloved.
that generation firemaro just gives me bad high school flashbacks. no way.
The '98 could be a winner if it checks out. Seems to be half of what people on swedespeed think their cars are worth.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Beautiful dark grey. Drove and handled really good, and we got it at a great price of around $17,500...but so many electrical glitches it was hard to live with. I remember it was a hot day and the AC quit working before we got home. We turned around and went back to the dealer and it took them about 2 hours to get it working. Traded before warranty was up.
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This is the first I've heard about Volvo. The Chinese owners just announced a big investment to continue making cars in Sweden so I don't put much stock in that one. (Yahoo). Sales are definitely down though, especially in Europe. Got a link?
Every six months or so there's a rumor that Mitsubishi is leaving the US market. So far they haven't but I don't see how they can keep going with only half a line up.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I have not seen anything official, but you know how it goes. Management will deny up until the last second, because orphan cars lose value and become hard to sell.
Volvo would surprise me. A little.
I'm 34 and love my LaCrosse. Of course I also have a Grand Marquis and have owned Town Cars and Toyota Avalons, so maybe I just don't count.
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In my mind, I was thinking I don't give a HOOT or a damn about cache, status, or whatever intangible fake values people make up. I care about the horsepower, the FE, the handling and driving characteristics, and the price.
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For did the same thing to Mercury (which filled the same niche for them as Buick does for GM)... there was just no real identity there. Instead of trying to revive it, they squashed it to focus on other areas and simply absorbed the niche with high-level Ford-branded trims (or low-level Lincoln-branded trims, whichever).
Having intermediate marques means you need to have a corporate strategy to fit them into the family. GM's strategy was "gather all the brands we can!" It's not easy to turn that around.
Now the simply affluent...harder to define. Doesn't take a gigantic income to be able to swing the lease payments on a new 5er or E etc. Buick should chase those, and maybe not aim too high. And indeed, status is important. Gotta build it somehow first.
Well, Suzuki is actually a done deal, American unit filed Chapter 11 and said they're no longer selling cars in the US. Mitsu wouldn't be too surprising, but Volvo would surprise me. And I would be skittish about owning an orphan car... can't imagine how interesting it could be to get parts.
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The Saab dealer in Louisville bought a ton of vehicles out of the bankruptcy proceeding. I think they have around 100 new Saabs on their lot. They're packaging them with an aftermarket 50,000 mile warranty (of dubious value) and advertising them for $10k or so off MSRP. I have no idea what the actual transaction prices are. It's an interesting prospect, but I'm spoiled by easy parts availability for my E39, not to mention the availability of pictures and written instructions for almost every repair job on the BMW forums due to the number sold and the enthusiast following they have. On the new model Saab 9-5 or 9-4, there were only a few thousand ever made, so it's not like there will be some central reference for "common" problems, since there simply aren't enough vehicles in the field.
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That was the title of the e-mail that had the link to it... :P
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Not sure I'm brave enough to own that...
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The three strikes I see against it are: (1) VW reliability, (2) extremely rare engine, (3) AWD system. The purchase price would be insignificant compared to the repair costs.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
That's exactly what I said....
I barely remember that they had a W8... :surprise:
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That dealer is only about 5 miles away from the one that had that AWD V70 R wagon with stick, from a few months ago...
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I'd definitely be scared of owning that car. Think Porsche 928. You can't just bring it to any old hans independent Porsche mechanic, you have to bring it to a 928 specialist. I'd imagine these are IMPOSSIBLE.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
me: "What's that for?"
wife: "I was hoping to get the day off from driving the bus (Pilot) today. I haven't taken your BMW to work in a while."
me, thinking the operative word here is "your" as in MY BMW: "Sure sweetheart, go ahead. Enjoy!"
It was a gorgeous, sunny, late fall day. I had to drive back to The Bronx & had already done the 65 mile round trip in the Pilot. I looked in the garage and saw my Prelude sitting there as it has been for at least a month. I ran inside, grabbed the keys and TOOK OFF!
My Prelude just fits me perfectly. I really get so much joy out of driving a 3000 lb, 4cyl, 5 speed manual transmission car with a lofty redline. The shifts are crisp, the cable actuated throttle is direct. The car is just super responsive. I hit 148,000 miles on the way home & I swear it drives like it has 50,000 miles on it. Still on the ORIGINAL shocks, I'm wondering what a set of Bilsteins would do for it? Hmmmm.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
No picture of the lever = no stick shift.
Call me a doubting Thomas.
Far too many ads say "manual" and what they mean is "paddles."
I don't think that car was available with three pedals.
Ba humbug -Mathias
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- Ray
Interesting vehicle ....
With shifter pictures...
Here is one
Curb weight... 4100 lbs.. :surprise:
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At least you know the CEL light works.
If we could see the tach, we would know.
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I'm going to flush the coolant and replace the thermostat on my van next week, which will probably wind up costing as much as that Olds Silhouette is selling for.
That BMW would worry me, those window vent things + rear window sticker don't bode well.
That worked out pretty well, I'd say!
What year is your Prelude? A friend of mine had an '88, I want to say, and had over 400,000 miles on it the last time I heard. It wasn't a spring chicken any more, but I enjoyed the ride or two I took in it.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I know I'm in the minority, but I absolutely hate heated seats. My Buick has the heated steering wheel also, I'll never even try it. My wife OTOH loves both features!
I do like the ventilated seats, just wish they were a bit stronger.
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I have the same sort of "relationship" with my 69 Econoline van. I might drive it 100 miles per year, but every time my wife re-suggests that I get rid of it, I politely remind her of the first statement I ever made on the subject well over a decade ago. "Honey, I'll get rid of you before I get rid of that van." :shades: