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The only mid-sizers that are significantly better are the LR3, Explorer, and Pilot.
Here is the album with pics of the competitors:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/index.html?id=2132270983
Looking through quickly, the SRX is much worse. XC90 is about the same, good head room but no space for your legs with the middle row all the way back (that's the case with almost all of them).
LR3 is the really dark interior, that's the roomiest one. Pilot is also good. MDX comes later and it's a squeeze. Highlander is worse than the Tribeca. Pacifica is actually not too bad for 6.
Pathfinder was bolt upright, extremely uncomfortable. Murano and RX didn't have a 3rd row (and shouldn't bother).
Go back because I narrarated each photo. Drove the people here crazy as a matter of fact. :P
-juice
My order is Mahogany Red with Grey interior... tired of beige!
Which images are of the Tribeca?. I'm looking at the XC90 or Tribeca as my next vehicle. My wife had a Pilot which had decent room in the third row, but she traded it in for a smaller car. I'd get another Pilot but it's not sporty enough. The Highlander and SRX third rows were terrible -knees hit your chest. The MDX was better but the cushions were not as firm as the Pilot and sank down to far. The XC90 is most comparable to Pilot -less leg room but more comfortable overall. Thanks, Jim
The Tribeca is the key to Subaru's future. I'd like to see them buy back their 20% from GM. Only time will tell.
Charlie
Do you ever buy shoes without trying them on first?
http://www.lafayettejc.com/news20050403/200504047local_news1112590878.shtml
http://www.lafayettejc.com/news20050405/200504050local_business1112677909.shtml
Yes, Subaru needs to get Tribeca in the hands of Edmunds and others ASAP to get the word out. We have two auto reviewers in our area's daily newspaper (a mid-size paper) and they haven't even received an '05 Outback or Legacy to review yet. And Subaru is really strong in our area. Tragic such an outstanding vehicle has to go without much-needed PR. Hope the same doesn't happen with Tribeca.
Craig
5 pass: MSRP $31,320 / INVOICE $29,132
5 pass Limited: MSRP $32,920 / INVOICE $30,603
7 pass: MSRP $33,020 / INVOICE $30,520
7 pass DVD: MSRP $34,820 / INVOICE $32,180
7 pass Limited: MSRP $34,520 / INVOICE $31,911
7 pass Limited DVD: MSRP $36,320 / INVOICE $33,567
7 pass Limited NAV: MSRP $36,520 / INVOICE $33,750
7 pass Limited DVD & NAV: MSRP $38,320 / INVOICE $35,411
Prices include $695 destination.
Seeing those invoice prices makes me salivate. Wish I were one of you lucky dogs ordering now! Make mine the 7-pass Ltd. in Atlantic Blue Pearl w/grey interior. That's a vehicle I could live with for a LONG time.
Just have to wait for a test drive...
Someone mentioned 28 mpg highway. NO WAY! My LLBan was stickered at 20 city /28 highway and I haven't gotten over 20 in a long time. Just did a fuel induction service - waiting to see if it improves. 28? NO WAY!
Also, comparison to FX is all wrong. It's a bouncy sports car, not a family hauler. I have yet to see an FX with anyone in the back - especially kids. Test drove the FX 4 times before buying an MDX - hoping it would soften up. My 8 yr. old daughter asked for me to stop her test drive so she could get out after my wife bounced over on top of her! Also read Edmunds posts of people who sold the FX after their kids kept getting sick. No joke...but it is really fun to drive if you are holding on to the steering wheel!
Ralph
http://www.imagestation.com/album/index.html?id=2132273475
Invoice prices look good, I bet by the end of the summer you can get one under $30 grand.
-juice
John
Been watching this board for a couple months, and am very interested in B9 Tribeca, after looking for nearly a year at ALL possible comparable vehicles.
Even without a test drive, I think I've found what we are looking for in this new Subuaru! I live about an hour from Lafayette, and am considering a tour of the factory, if possible soon, to see it being put together. Anyone ever done this?
I have seen this eluded to a couple times now...near invoice prices for pre-orders. Is this just someone's fantasy, or are Suburu dealers offering this officially? The one dealer I visited mentioned the free towing package, etc., but that was before prices were released. Any feedback would be appreciated!
Nah, the wife would overrule and buy $500 worth of clothes at LL Bean.
-juice
The wifey wins the LL Bean certificate... she already had her eye on it so even if I wanted the XM, I'd still lose. ;-)
Based on my Legacy test drive, Subaru cut corners in the following areas:
* No auto up/down for passenger windows
* No stability control (Tribeca has it - VDC)
* Archaic separate key and remote, instead of the integrated fob the European models get
* Nail-breaker door handles (Tribeca has the right kind)
* No hill-holder, I thought all stick shift Subarus had it, but only the Forester does
The lack of VDC was a deal-breaker on the Legacy GT. It's otherwise a car I could be happy with.
Now, I am interested in the Tribeca, but I am also interested in the new Audi A3, FWD model. I have driven neither, but I suspect the actual selling prices for models with the same features will be comparable (the Audi selling at list, the Subaru with some discount). The Subaru obviously offers more square footage for the money, and while I don't expect it to drive like a small European car, if it doesn't have some sporty flair, I will remove it from my list. If it's not far off from the Legacy GT wagon, it may be a winner.
I know I'm comparing apples to oranges, and I also know the reliability will be much better with the Subaru.
Strange because the Baja has it, and it would be perfectly legal.
-juice
Must be in the same "missing feature box" as the Outback factory tint.
That's what they mean when they say "subject to change".
-juice
IIRC, it was mentioned as a reason for the Outback becoming a truck - it was a feature that customers wanted. That and a few other features "forced" them to go for the truck designation.
Still Mad About That.
-juice
"This vehicle also comes standard with seven-spoke, 18 x 8-inch aluminum
alloy wheels, and power-assisted four-wheel disc brakes with ventilated front
and rear discs. Standard safety features include dual front, side seat and
curtain airbags, and four-channel / four-sensor Anti-lock Brake System (ABS)
with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD). For added comfort and
convenience, the Subaru B9 Tribeca comes standard with dual-zone automatic
climate control, tilt/slide tinted-glass moon roof with sliding shade,
electroluminescent gauges, 100W single CD AM/FM stereo with six speakers and
MP3 audio file compatibility, power driver (eight-way), and passenger (four-
way) seat controls with lumbar support adjustment, leather-wrapped steering
wheel and shift knob, 40/20/40 folding rear seat backrest, deep-tinted privacy
glass on rear side and lift-gate, and HomeLink(R)."
While the pricing is very good the tribeca misses a few key features that some of the competition has.
the features that this car should have also had are back up sensors, memory seats, telescoping steering wheel and 8 way power passenger seat. These will probably show up mid-year or 2007. Is it worth the wait? the price will go up too.
charlie
Baja must have about a 20% tint, as in 20% of light gets through.
I have 35% on my Forester.
I'd say the Tribeca's is 50% or higher.
-juice
Are tinted windows illegal in Europe?
-juice
Charlie
I checked the brochure and it's clearly photochopped. In some of the pictures the windows are totally clear, in others they are slightly darker than the windshield, but not that much.
-juice
Anyway, it is what it is and if it's to light my wife crosses the tribeca off the list.
Charlie
Craig
But I didn't see too many (if any), "it looks great in person!"
Here ya go: It looks great in person, from the side, and from the rear! :P
In that context, that is relatively low-volume goals, the Tribeca should easily find enough buyers.
-juice
Dark grey seats and tan sides? Who came up with that idea. :mad:
I prefer the beige because the colors seem to match better, IMHO. But someone that wants some variety might prefer the gray, and I think more people here voted that way.
-juice