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Also, if you try to look up 2006 vehicles, you'll only get about six manufacturers to choose from... Subaru's not included there.
-juice
Its got a cushioned top as a seat, built in cup holder nad zip pouch. got an adapter to plug in normal outlet free. It fits underneath the cargo cover unlike the subaru igloo one and the coleman walmart had but didn't seem as nice as the vector and same height problem as the igloo.
Done right that vehicle though not a high volume product would open the door for SOA to begin to recognized as a supplier of high quality, high enf performance vehicles that still maintain all basics that Subaru have come to be known for."
I like your thinking. And after all I was a Nissan/Infiniti loyalist who came over to Subaru because I liked the B9 better then the competition in almost every aspect including surprisingly style and esthetic features(ie. puddle lights, signal mirrors). So scooping up more new customers in any way is great.
I am excited about Toyota buying the interest in Subaru from GM and hope this will improve Subaru models including in the the performance and hybrid depts. as well as more models hopefully. For Toyota it can't hurt their AWD technology.
The main thing that all the articles copied was that the price you were paying extra for the hybrid you wouldn't make up on gas until 10 yrs of normal use. Of course this was before the high gas prices so I'm sure that time frame went down significantly plus for ppl that may put more miles on their car then the avg person especially in a city like philadelphia measured to have residents with one of the longest avg. commutes.
Plus you would drive more when you have a hybrid. We have 2 in my fam so when we travel together of course we always take the hybrid. Also you are helping the environment with less emissions. And the biggest thing that ppl still seem to be unaware of is the higher performance, hp, tourque, speed etc. Toyota/Lexus is getting with their hybrids. This would definately be the way to go for the B9 Tribeca. Imagine V8 power with a V6, higher performance, more hp, and higher gas mileage on our Tribecas. Its an improvement in every way and would be amazing.
Also look at the bottom line. The Toyota Highlander Hybrid and the Lexus RX 400h are the #1 and 2 highest overall scoring recommended mid-size SUV's above even their non hybrid versions Rx 330 and regular Highlander so more expensive or not they are the best. Of course the non hybrid versions of both are still in the top 5 so it doesnt' hurt to start with a good model.
Believe me, if I like the redesign of the highlander in 2007 and the Tribeca doesnt' have a hybrid iteration, I will be ditching it for a hybrid version of the new highlander early.
Also as far as the CR recommended mid size suvs performance in snow that is a good point and maybe the one thing CR doesn't take into consideration (hard to believe considering they are so thorough). anyway I know for a fact that the Infiniti FX35 does not perform well in teh snow and that has a higher overall score then the Tribeca in CR as far as the recommended models. So good point, but i doubt its much better then the others or top 5. AWD is AWD right? I know Subaru was first but is it really better then Toyota/Lexus's, Honda's, Nissan's BMW's?
I have heard that only Audis quattro awd rivals Subarus though, is this true?
I'd argue the Outback, simple because that is where the highest volume would be.
According to CR, you'd save about a grand a year on gas with one of those two hybrids over any of the other SUVs tested in that issue.
-juice
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Though I love my satin pearl white, I admitt looks very luxury on the road in black surprisingly and I''ve seen this black one coming the other way when leaving work a couple times now and for some reason the front end (especially in black i guess) coming at you on the road, looks like or gives you the feeling of a locomotive. I know they were going for airplane so its kind of funny it ends up looking like a train. I guess its because its on wheels and gain in black and maybe the front grille is reminding me of he "cattle pusher?" or whatever that wedged piece is on the front of old locomotives that were used to push stuff out of the way on the tracks I dunno.
Also, I parked next to an FX 35 at a concert (both backed in) as I like to compare and contrast and have done so with the Murano. The main thing about the FX is that it is the same height in the front and the back so it has a very straight line. Basically the B9 looks more significant and "higher up" more suv like so to speak in the back while the FX being the most sporty and car like mid size suv is actually higher up in the front (something I didn't originally like about the B9 but have gottent used to though I think what I didn't like is that it reminded me of a minivan as I noticed many have a sloping front end but its all how you look at it)
Bottom line was I was liking how the B9 stacked up against the FX side by side and though i do like the front end of the B9 and never had a problem with the grill, the Fx didn't have a higher up and wider look from the front.
I can't believe the SRX receives high marks for overall styling.
Murano:
" It also scores well among women, who are likely to view it as a vehicle
that can be "shown off," and is perceived to be high tech, modern and
flashy."
Tribeca:
"However, men react much more favorably to the model than do women,
perceiving it as an exciting, sporty and trendsetting new design."
That does seem off because they are very similiar but I thought the Tribeca was actually a tad more feminine then the Murano and thought it would be opposite with women liking the Tribeca more. I know most girls/women I have asked love the styling and more then the Murano including my wife.
the brand recognition part doesn't bother me because if anything I think that is a good thing. It means ppl dont' associate it with Subaru at first right? or know what it is (prob doens't help that a lot of us took off the Subaru lettering) not that Subaru isn't a brand to be proud of, though I used to be a Nissan loyalist I would say its along the same lines as Nissan and among its Japanese coutnerparts (Toyota, Honda) like Nissan but even more so Subaru has more character and is smaller with less models (and more unique) which can sometimes be a good thing.
I'll take the "exciting, sporty, and trendsetting new design" any day though.
Yes, gas price went up since but so is the premium you have to pay for the Hybrid if you want one now because of high demand. Besides, the batteries need to be replaced after a few years (just like another rechargeable battery). And I heard it is very expensive. One figure I read from a car mag is $8,000 for Ford Escape Hybrid battery.
On the trip to Flagstaff last weekend (BIG Subie market up there, lots of snow and skiing), we were stopped numerous times (maybe five or six?) by a variety of folks wanting to know "what is that?". My mom even asked the question, do you get more male inquiries or more female ones? I would guestimate that about half were probably women, half were men. This has happened to me several times this summer as well, especially when I was up in the Northern Rockies. Not a very scientific poll, but an interesting observation, FWIW.
-Karen in AZ-
popped it into the B9. the base was dramatically stronger for MP3 version vs when I convert the MP3s to standard Music CDs. or even comparing to the Store bought Music CDs. the songs played back in MP3 format has much more base punch. I wonder if there is a problem in the way they designed the reader for standard music CDs.
I thought the stereo system on the Limited sucked at first. I had the BASE turned up and it still lacked punch. until I played MP3s :surprise:
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I ordered 20" wheels for the Tribeca :shades: in a grey metal finish (should match the titanium silver on my suv hopefully)... Pics to come once they arrive next week...
Mark
-juice
I have been using 87 regular since day one due to fuel prices but found I get 1 more mpg with plus 89 octane. since it is 10 cents more then 87 octane it actually works out better to run 89 octane. Its cheaper to run 89 octane plus it has better pickup with 89 octane. but not sure if thats due to the temp getting colder... plus I picked up about 1/2 mpg without the AC running. so almost just short of 20 mpg with 50/50 mix of highway and city.
During the summer I was 18 mpg
I am looking to purchase a in car hands-free bluetooth unit for my cell phone.
Some units are capable of muting the stereo automatically when an incoming call arrives.
I am happy to pay the higher price for such a unit but only if I know I can use the muting feature.
Anyone know how and where the muting circuit has to be attached to the head unit?
Failing that do you know where I could get the info.
Thanks in advance
John - Chicago
Note also that the VDC that plays MP3's may have a different head unit from yours.
Got home and my dad was smiling about the fact the article showed up while we were out shopping for one! See for yourself what he says.
www.jsonline.com/wheels/test/oct05/364977.asp
(Tried to insert link, but was unsuccessful!)
Do what I did - get an in-ear Bluetooth Headset. Then it works with your phone on the go, regardless of what car you're in.
-juice
Do the dome light or hatch-open dash indicator ever come on?
Craig
AKA
www.portlandtribune.com/adxl8.cgi?id=F102105
-Karen in AZ-
Quick shot of a blue Tribeca backing up (caught it at the rear quarter panel, knew right away), then they showed the hatch area just before opening it up. (They were delivering flowers to plant.). I don't know if this is a regular vehicle on this show or not...
Christina
1. Add a backup camera. All 2006 SE and SL Muranos will have a standard backup camera. With Honda Pilot it is included if you buy the NAV ioption. It's not even an option on the Tribeca.
2. Make the Atlantic Blue and graphite leather color combo available on the 5 passenger version as well as the 7 passenger. Right now the only option in the Atlantic blue 5 seater is beige leather.
Normally a traditionalist
Yeah, right. Ever seen a BRAT? XT? SVX? Baja? Very non-traditional. Hello, anyone home?
vehicle draws a much larger audience than Subaru ever expected
Not quite. They are selling about 2/3rds the amount hoped for, so the opposite is true.
rear tailgate is nearly vertical.
Not at all. The glass portion curves forward significantly.
tailgate is split horizontally
Now I'm curious. Did he actually drive a Tribeca? Or an Element?
17-inch wheels
Try 18.
concept vehicle was first shown in 2003
Way, way off. Much later than that. January 05 IIRC.
bouncy ride quality
He's the first to make that claim? Not surprising given the number of mistakes, plus I feel like he never actually drove it.
rebodied Forester and Outback
Aye, aye, aye. It's loosely based on a stretch Legacy. Completely unrelated to Forester.
17-inch wheels
That's twice.
So, Karen, which mistake were you referring to? I have almost too many to choose from, but I'll guess it was the 18"s.
-juice
There was never a concept vehicle let alone showing it. Maybe he is confused with B9 Scrambler concept which is a roadster.
There was a artist concept drawing released by SOA in late 2004. That's all the information released before Jan 2005 debut of the vehicle in NAIAS.
-juice
with these Tires from Nitto (45 profile) keeps the tire diameter the same as OEM...
That's a nice, aggressive tread pattern, too. Both directional and asymmetrical.
-juice
mfg tire webpage
-juice
So, does that mean that all new seven passengers are limiteds?
This does not bode well for me as my wife has ruled out leather seats.
That tailgate is split horizontally so that the lower half can be used as a seating surface for tailgating.
Don’t know about the rest of you, but my derriere won’t fit on that little lower bumper for any length of time :-)
The rear seats are roomy, as well, and raised a couple of inches higher than the front seats, allowing for greater passenger visibility from the rear.
I swear I had measured this from the first time I saw one in person. I remember the front and rear seats being exactly the same, and about an inch and a half closer to the ground than the Highlander I was considering at the time.
As long as the standard-automatic shifts at a respectable rpm, the engine provides plenty of power. I found that leaving the automatic transmission in standard mode wasn’t much fun, as it reduces the rpm shift points and the potential sporty side of the driving feel.
Did he REALLY drive one? On any kind of angled grade at all? Wasn’t much fun in Sport mode? Hmmm...
However, it has a bouncy ride quality.
Check the tire pressure...dealers often send them out with 40+ psi...mine did, and I went back and made them check it in the middle of the test drive. Made a huge difference (maybe he DID drive one, or just ride in it???).
Just my $.02's worth....
-Karen in AZ-
That tailgate is split horizontally
It's not split at all. It's one piece. They just a factual error, plain and simple.
Good catch on the tire pressure. At 40+psi they probably feel like rocks.
I'll take a guess at the cost of the wheels and tires - $1800 mounted, balanced, and delivered. Am I close?
-juice
as far as TPMS. they cost about $90 from the dealer list. I figure for the short term I will ignore the light unless the dealer has a way to turn if off. and then wait for a wrecked B9 or Baja to show up. they both have the same sensor