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  • chrickchrick Posts: 2
    Thank you for your honesty. Chrick
  • iowabigguyiowabigguy Posts: 552
    We have 2 1999 Neons and a 2000 Quad. Had to have Computer flashed in both Neons right after we got them. No other problems to report. Neons have 17,000 and 19000 miles and the Quad has 9000 miles. We also have a 1995 Nissan Altima SE that has only required an Oxygen sensor in 43000 miles. By the way all the vehicles are manual transmissions. Rick
  • gregp5gregp5 Posts: 51
    Took the plunge last night. I went to Freehold Dodge and ordered up a
    Bright Silver 2001 QC 4x4 with the following :
    4.7 V8
    45 rfe mission
    anti-spin miff.
    ad service group
    radio w/the equalizer
    power drivers seat
    skid plates
    sports plus group
    leather wrapped steering wheel
    towing group
    r. defroster
    power overhead conv. group
    bucket seats
    p/time 4wd
    3.55 axle
    power conv. group
    radio controls on wheel
    Think that's about it....Geez, I don't think my blood pressure
    has returned to normal yet.
    Now, if I could only figure how to pay for it...............

    Sorry for the long post regarding options, but I just HAD to tell someone !
    One question though, while typing this post I hit the tab key and
    it appears to have horizontally expanded the box I'm typing in,
    anybody know how to bring it back to normal size ? I dont want the posts
    to be too wide.

    Thanks for yor help guys
  • biglucybiglucy Posts: 140

    Sit back and take a deep breathe. Now, exhale gently and continue to take deep breaths until you feel better! Hemoglobin is a wonderful thing!!!
    Don't worry - You Done Good!!! Sounds like a fantastic purchase. Know what your bottom line $Price$ will be, Keep to your guns, and Keep your fingers crossed (the last two require alittle dexterity).
    The best advice I'd like to share with you is to get your truck paid off as quickly as possible, double up on payments whenever you can. If you haven't purchased a house yet then this is probably the biggest investment you have made, so make that investment work in your favor (and enjoy a great ride at the same time)!

    Good Luck!
  • I've looked everywhere for slip on tow mirrors for my QC. There are plenty for the stock smaller mirrors and full size Rams. I have the optional 5x7 inch mirrors that came with my tow package. They still don't reach far enough out see around my RV trailer. Anybody? Thanks.

    I tried the strap on mirrors and they stink. They vibrate too much and bend in the wind.
  • rfruthrfruth Posts: 630
    I saw this in my local paper today, $ 8000 thousand to repair a RAM !? A new one is about twice that, insurance companies must love this ...

                        Rob Fruth - Houston, Tx


    1981 Raleigh for commuting, errands & fun

    1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !

    2000 Honda Civic hatchback

    - snip - April 9, 2001, 1:28PM

     Some truck bumpers not as strong as they look

    DETROIT -- When the going gets tough .. the tough get bent out of shape. That's the conclusion that might be drawn from results released today of low-speed crash tests on the bumpers of rugged-

    looking pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

    Of the seven 2001 models tested, only one, Ford Motor Co.'s small Escape SUV, earned an acceptable rating for crash-worthiness,

    according to the safety institute.

    It said the other vehicles, subjected to four separate crash tests at 5 miles an hour, sustained extensive damage that would require

    costly repairs.

    The pickups tested were the Chevrolet Silverado, the Ford F-150, the Toyota (7203.T) Tundra and Dodge Ram. In addition to the Escape, the SUVs were Hyundai Motor's (05380.KS) Santa Fe and Toyota's RAV4.

    "The performance of the four large pickups ranged from poor to awful," said Adrian Lund, the institute's chief operating officer.

    "None of these vehicles sustained less than $4,000 total damage in the four tests, and the Dodge Ram sustained more than $8,000 damage.

    There's no excuse for such poor performance."

  • namfflownamfflow Posts: 202
    Repair costs are always high. If you were to build a vehicle from the parts department iot would cost 10 times what you pay for it MSRP.

    Modern manufacturing drives most of the costs out of it but building by parts as in a body shop is very loabor intensive and that is where the high cost come from. Heck, I just bent the hood on a car in a 25 MPH tap and it cost almost 2500.
  • astaasta Posts: 122
    no post, guys! Been off in work/home buying land (and I thought buying a truck was tough!) anyways, still love my 2001 Silver 4x4 QC since I took delivery last October. Sold my trusty Saturn wagon and got 500 bills below my asking, which was 10K. Not bad for a 4 year old car that I paid 16K for. have been religious with the oil changes so far, but have only put about 7100K on the truck since October. Just noticed (yesterday) a squeaking type sound when I release the brake pedal after stopping. Took it to a dealership (not my regular one) and they said this noise was normal with the semi-metallic brakes on the QC. He lessened the noise somewhat, but it's still there, still annoying, and will probably get worse with wear, according to the service guy. Anybody else have this issue and is there a fix? The sound only happens upon releasing the brake pedal - brakes work great. Like I said it's a sort of squeak or rub.

    thanks! Good to be back amongst old friends.
  • akula2akula2 Posts: 8

    A few months a friend of mine was in a slight fender bender in which his air bags deployed. When he went to the shop that was repairing his vehicle he was astonished to find out that half of the $2500 bill was for air bag replacement. For comparison purposes the owner of the body shop led him over to a 2000 Dodge Ram which had been in an accident. The actual body damage was $1500 but since all of the air bags deployed the total cost came to well over $8000! Just FYI...
  • mtrialsmmtrialsm Posts: 159
    I got my hood insulation installed yesterday.
    So all you 2001 Dakota SLT owners check under
    the hood for insulation, bet you don't have any.
    The dealer will install it for free(you already
    paid for it).
    I was also shocked at the 'crash tests' for
    the Dodge Dakota. The more I look under and
    around my truck, I can see how Dodge 'cuts' the
    weight! But others do it also.
  • namfflownamfflow Posts: 202
    As I posted under "Quad Cabs" The hood insulation has been discontinued by DC. You will notice on the website when you use "Build this vehicle" and look at the information for SLT Decor Group that Hood Insulation is no longer specified. I also called DC and they told me it is discontinued.

    Some dealers willl put it in since it doesn't cost much and if it keeps the customer happy, that is better for them. A small price to pay if you ask me.

    Since DC confirmed it is no longer installed I expect when I pick mine up Sat. it won't have any. Of course if the dealer starts to give me a hard time about my trade or whatever, I'll push them to install it just for the hell of it.

    I have a 97 with the insulation. I have driven a few Sports which don't have it. I cannot hear any difference so quieting the noise isn't a factor. I have not noticed the Sport being any hotter than the SLT so maybe in the end it doesn't really matter whether they install it or not.

    BTW, don't believe everything you read about the crash test. My 97 has been hit in the rear 2 times since it was new. Both times the bumper was tweaked about 1/2 inch. Just put a new bumper on it. The 1st time the other car was totaled, (a Miata) and the 2nd time (just yesterday) a T-bird has at least 2500 bucks of damage. Each time it was hit was about 15 MPH.
  • wantone2wantone2 Posts: 19
    My salesman called me today and said his Sales Manager has filed a missing part request to DC for my hood insulation on my SLT QC I took delivery on this week. I will let everyone know how it turns out. It was also missing the floor mats and a part for the Anti-lock brakes, but the dealer took care of those two items.
  • The dodge Dakota is the heaviest compact truck on the market . . . Plus its crash data suggests a "good" front collision rating and "excellent" side impact rating . . .?
    Mine weighs 4600lbs . . . that's almost more than I would want . . . so I'm not sure where exactly Dodge is cutting corners?
  • biglucybiglucy Posts: 140
    -must be the Quab Cab badge, could be made of lead... can someone pull it off their truck and weigh it?
  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    Guys, my 45RFe has been in class over a year and 14K miles and it still does not know how to shift. Its been exorcised 4 times (about every three months), still slams on the 2-3 upshift, acts surprised when it has to downshift from 4-3 or 3-2, and yes, it has a much more frequent service interval than the good old 727 or even the 46RE. Just look at at BOB sometime. I re read the section on the 45RFE five times and I still don't understand exactly how it works. I do know it has a funky shift schedule when its cold out. Why didn't the old TH400/350 or the 727 do that? Heck, even a C-6 has a simpler design than this. Had I but known, I would've gone with the five speed, but this is the first truck in my family that came with an automatic.

    Unless dodge can build a better auto, it will also be the last.

    Funny thing, those old dinosaur designs sure lasted a lot longer than this so-called electronic stuff. Never had a problem with the 904/727 trans in my older mopars.
  • namfflownamfflow Posts: 202
    Yes, these Torqueflites were without a doubt the finest automatic transmissions ever made. What else can take the power of a 440 6 pack or a Hemi?

    What is interesting about those old torqueflights was they told you NOT to change the tranny fluid or else you have to change it all the time. I never changed mine and they ran for more than 100000 miles.

    Of course, I haven't had any trouble with my 4 speed auto in my 97 and I hope I have no trouble with the "multi-speed" in the one I'm picking up tomorrow.
  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    However, forget the 100K no fluid change on this puppy. The BOB service schedule states every 30K and the filter that goes in the darn thing does not look like the older filters. Whole new animal.
    Not to say mine doesn't shift at all, it just shifts LIKE it has 100K on it.
    My only hope is that the person who designed the 727 is still around, his/her spirit guiding the fellas in Kokomo as another 45 RFE comes down the line.
    On a related matter, the 2.2 was a darn good engine and one of the designers for that engine was plucked out of retirement when the K-cars were in development. Guess what he did in his earlier life at mother MOpar? He designed the slant six, quite possilby the best engine of all time. I had one in a Dart and it ran and ran and ran and ran and ran and ran. SO the did 904 behind it. 35,000 of teenager driving did not hurt the engine or tranny at all.
  • biglucybiglucy Posts: 140
    Hey Kids,

    I'm still trying to justify the muchos dineros it will cost to get a fiberglass tonneau cover. Does anyone have the stats on the MPG increase for a truck that is open vs. tonneau cover, versus riding without the tailgate? I haven't seen a leather tonneau that I really like, so I'm looking more toward the fiberglass ones.

    Beach - I can certainly agree with you concerning the idiosyncratic behaviour of the 45RFE. I have 2500 miles on the truck and I'm still getting used to the gear shifts while driving. I thought that the tranny was supposed to somehow "learn" from your driving style and come to a happy medium, but I still feel that my tranny is dictating the way I drive and not vice-versa.
  • mopar67mopar67 Posts: 728
    I used to teach school, and if the 45 RFE was a student in my class, it would get a DUNCE cap! Yes, I do think it dictates how YOU drive instead of the other way around.
    Shame too because MOPAR used to make the finest automatics in the world.
    Seems to me they should have stayed with what worked and let other companies venture out into electronic land.
    On the upside, Mopar can still design good looking trucks. If only they would upgrade some of the components (brake rotors, get rid of plastic intake, better shifting trans) they would be world beaters.

    Tonneau cover: try looking at extang, which is what I have. Nearly two years and nary a problem with it even with the nasty winters here in PA.
  • rm13rm13 Posts: 46
    Big Lucy,

    I would not buy a tonneau for mileage purposes. I have a fiberglass cover and love it for securing and keeping dry my "stuff" when travelling. It will not make a significant change in your mileage and certainly not enough to pay you back the $600 or so initial outlay. IF you don't need a way to secure your gear, vinyl or no tonneau is really the best bet. I find the fiberglass inconvenient at times. Good luck.
  • biglucy: my foldacover has already come in very handy (ie coming off in 2 minutes to haul tall stuff) in the week I've had it. Has kept the bed bone dry so far (lotsa rain lately) and locks everything up tight.

    Not as pretty as fiberglass, but more practical IMHO
  • namfflownamfflow Posts: 202
    Biglucy, I know you didn't ask but I'll tell you anyway. I have a steel cover, GEM GT Classic and I find it looks better than the rest and I have not had any leaks in the 3 years I have had it on my 97 Dakota. As to gas mileage, I haven't noticed and substantial change one way or the other. What I have noticed is the truck rides better as it put another 100 lbs on the back end.
  • biglucybiglucy Posts: 140
    You guys rock! I really appreciate your replies.

    rm13- you're absolutely right, I've been known to blow some cash on my toys but I just can't justify 600 clams! And to think I wanted to get the sport wing too. No doubt, it would look awesome, but I rather spend the money on headers, exhaust, and intake mods.

    Ray, I'd like to look at that Gem cover, do you have a web-link?

    Eric, how much was the foldacover?

    I think I'll probably just ride barebacked and use my $4.99 tarp when I need to! Then I can buy everyone a drink with the money that I kept in my pocket
  • namfflownamfflow Posts: 202
  • gator72gator72 Posts: 115
    Hey Eric,

    I have the fold-a-cover, too; dealer installed on my '01 QC SLT+. I love it. I have not removed mine yet. But, I believe it has a "C" clamp holding it on each side.

    Do you have any tips on removing the cover?

    Is it difficult to re-position it when you put it back on, etc.?

    FYI: I put a marine-grade weatherstrip on the underside of the front lip and rear lip of my cover. Now, even in the heaviest downpour, I get only about a 1/2 cup of water!

    I also put in the rubber bed mat; instead of the bedliner. Removes easily and really protects the bed.

  • gregp5gregp5 Posts: 51
    After placing my order for a new QC I called the Farm Bureau and left a message re. joining up.
    A woman left me a message on my machine saying she had a "Few Questions" about my joining. Now I havent gotten back to her yet,but was wondering if you guys that have already joined were asked some questions about why you want to join or had farms or something along those lines?

    Thanks, Greg
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    Greg, they asked me the same type questions (PA) and I told them about interest in my niece's farm in MD and the member benefits particullary the Dodge discount. No problem. You do not have to be an active farmer.

  • wantone2wantone2 Posts: 19
    I also had no problems with the Farm Bureau. I told them up front why I was joining and they have been great to work with. I went in at the end of my 30 days of membership which was one day before I picked up my QC I ordered and it took about 5 minutes for them to fill out the certificate and get an approval number from Dodge. It was a very easy $465 after my $35 membership fee here in Florida.
  • Greg, joining the Farm Bureau was a piece of cake. Filled out a form and sent it in along with $40 for an associate membership. Called a week later to find out what day my membership was effective and counted out 30 days from then. My membership started about a week after I ordered my truck. My order was messed up (dealer ordered without limited slip) which turned out to be a blessing in disquise because that original order arrived in about 4 weeks - too soon for the Farm Bureau discount. The corrected order also arrived in about 4 weeks from ordering and 2 days after may 30 days were up for the Farm Bureau.
    I feel that your order too will arrive before you will be eligible for the discount. Maybe you can file for it after your purchase? I don't know. Good luck.

  • antonyantony Posts: 46
    The only reason the 45RFE exists is the same reason they
    developed the 4.7 to replace the 5.2 and 5.9:

    excessive goverment regulations regarding emissions, mpg,
    weight, etc. That is the reason for all the electronic/
    computer-controlled gadgets that infest vehicles today.
    A good old Torqueflite Trans with a nice V-8 would be
    solid, smooth, and reliable but wouldn't meet the damn
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