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The first two designate the general model
18xx is a Corolla
19xx is a Matrix
25xx is a Camry
The last two designate the trim level and transmission
1838 is an LE 4AT
1840 is an XLE 4AT
1835 is an XRS 5MT
Some of the options codes cut across all models
CK is the priorly discussed Cold Weather Package ( on every model in NA )
CL is Cruise Control
LA is Leather seating
HD is Heaters for the seats
NV is Navi
EJ is the 6 CD JBL + BT system
SR is SunRoof
PO is the Power Package
VS is VSC + Trac
AW is Alloy Wheels
KE is Keyless Entry
Others are specific to each model
EM is the heated color keyed mirrors
LE is the LE power package
SX is the Corolla Sport Pckge
Sometimes the packages incorporate several of the individual options. The Sport Package includes ( AW, KE, SR and the lower cladding )
In the Color schemes...
04xx is a gold
08xx is a blue
03xx is a red
02xx is a black
01xx is a silver
L = 178.7"
W= 69.3"
H= 57.7"
9th Generation Corolla (2003-2008):
L=178.3"
W=66.9"
H=58.5"
For comparison purposes here are dimensions for various generation Camry's:
3rd Generation Camry (1992-1996):
L=187.8"
W=69.7"
H=55.1"
4th Generation Camry (1997-2001):
L=188.5"
W=70.1"
H=55.4"
5th Generation Camry (2002-2006):
L=189.2
W=70.7"
H=57.9"
6th Generation Camry (2007 to ???):
L=189.2"
W=71.7"
H=57.9"
The all new 2009 10th generation Corolla does look a bit larger than the 9th generation Corolla but as someone stated in a recent test drive review of the car that is just an illusion. It is definitely wider.
I read review of the 2009 Corolla that made a comment about the steering being non communicative.
I don't know what's Toyota's problem with steering. I test drove a Camry several weeks ago and was in shock at how weightless and limp-wristed the steering was. It felt as if the steering wheel wasn't physically connected to anything. I thought steer-with-your-pinkie-finger steering went away with 1970's Buicks. Even a modern Buick has steering dialed in a bit better than the Toyota's I've seen.
Hondas have very smooth steering with just enough weight and steering feel and Toyota should be able to do better than they are with this.
* It's not possible to get VSC on the base Corolla or LE. In order to get it on the S, you have to get the AT and order package A, $2,985, which includes All Weather Guard, CD changer with 6 speakers, moonroof, and sport package. VSC is not in the package A on the S with MT. In order to get VSC on the XLE, you have to order package C, $2,600, which includes equipment similar to package A on the S (except some of what is in that package comes standard on the XLE). So it looks like VSC could be hard to find, and rather pricey, since it has to be purchased in a package. The XLE with VSC is $20,810, and the S is $20,795.
* If you want nav and VSC, it looks like you're out of luck, at least on the S and XLE. Looks like the only way to get VSC and nav together is to get the XLS 5AT (see next note).
* If you want VSC on the XLS, it looks like you have to get the 5AT, as the configurator says VSC is standard on the 5AT and optional on the MT, but there's only one options package on the MT and it doesn't include VSC.
* If you want nav and Bluetooth, it looks like you're out of luck, as no package seems to have both (XLS may offer that combo though, I didn't check).
* LE and XLE are 4AT only--no MT on those.
These limitations may not apply everywhere, but it appears to hold true for MN. Maybe other regions allow options like VSC to be purchased individually. That would be real nice, e.g. make VSC an easy-to-get option on the LE, and don't make people choose between VSC and nav. If I have to pay nearly $21k MSRP to get a Corolla with VSC, I don't think it's worth my time to even take a look at one, let alone drive one.
Mack
Why they do that I have no idea. We get customers coming in asking for a Camry with package A and all they get is a blank stare. It'll be the same with the Corolla. "A, B, or C" " Huh?" I wouldn't waste a lot of time figuring out one comparison or another. When it comes time to order the vehicles the ones that turn over the fastest with the equipment that sells is what gets ordered.
Also the 'Build your own function' is something that's controlled at the regional level it's not set up by Toyota Corporate. SET and GST and CAT and SoCal all have different pricing schemes. It's like this on every new vehicle that's launched,,,, mass confusion on pricing at first. Then it becomes clear what the public wants after 5-6 months. In the end it's the buyers that actually take the vehicles off the lot that determine what equipment is ordered on the replacement units.
I don't like this trend that began with the Prius and seems to be spreading: Toyota is copying GM's practice of listing things that are standard on step-up models but optional on lesser trims, and then writing "no charge" next to them. This is bogus and misleading: there is no charge on the LE, but you have paid more to get the LE so there was a charge, it is just magically hidden on the Monroney sticker you are reading. They comply with the law in letter but not in spirit.
Will VSC be as hard to find on '09s and '10s as ABS and side airbags were on pre-'08 Corollas? I suspect the answer is yes, although you would think Toyota would build a lot of them since it is going to be mandated in ALL new cars pretty soon.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
(And someone stated previously that VSC is a $250 option, I wonder if that is correct - the XLE option packing including VSC also includes cruise and the All-Weather pkg, but it is $650.)
I think the pricing is a little high on most models, but generally, it is appears acceptable.
An XLE as my mom might consider, for example, would be $21,009, which includes VSC, the JBL/Bluetooth/XM, alloys, cruise, floor and trunk mats, All-Weather.
I like the look and feel of Toyota's new site.
Re: the comment regarding Toyota's light steering (on the Camry) - drive the SE... it's significantly better, IMO.
Six months from now when discount wars are raging, will they still mostly be coming in with the optional VSC? I hope so, but that's not how Toyota was with side bags and ABS until the Corolla's '08 model run. And it's still two years (or more?) until VSC will be mandated by law in all cars...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Option package A includes VSC (VS) All weather guard package (CK) Cruise control (CL).
Heck, buyatoyota.com is one of my favorite tools to use with a customer in front of me at my desk.
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Of all of the Asian manufacturers, Toyota seems to like to play the option game similar to domestic manufacturers.
I've also found that option availability can vary widely over time. So for example, when I ordered my Prius, the package I ordered was in good supply. A few months later, Toyota cut back on shipments of that package to my region, so my wait got extended (to the point I had to buy something else). On the Yaris, initially ABS and side airbags were in very short supply, but then more recently Toyota started sending more cars with those options to my area. So what we see today on the Corolla re options may not be true a few months from now.
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I think in this segment, its all about sensible shoes, and its going to be up to the buyer to decide. Me, I'd gravitate to a Mazda 3, Saturn Astra (though I thought the interior was a big disappointment, and the rear seat tight), or even an XRS Corolla... but for the masses, this Corolla will likely remain solid, smooth-riding, efficient, and reliable transportation.
Pricing Example (re my Honda remark):
Corolla LE automatic + cruise, 6CD changer (non-JBL version), VSC, all-weather = $18,200
Civic LX auto = $18,395
The Civic gets 5A, 16 inch wheels, but does not offer cd changer or VSC.....
It's a bummer that the LE doesn't have the XLE's wood trim standard, IMO. At NAIAS, thought he vehicles were locked, the XLE's interior seemed very classy and the wood much more attractive than the 2003-2008 LE's plood.
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Reports are that the Civic will offer VSA across the lineup for 2009 MY. And of course, ESC (by whatever acronym) is available on other cars in this class, e.g. Elantra, Impreza, Mazda3, Rabbit, and SX4 Sport.
Standard =Standard
LE = LE
XLE = XLE
SE = S
V6 SE = XRS
Only the V6 XLE and hybrid trims are missing in the Corolla lineup.
BTW, Can our Canadian brothers confirm if SKS and Auto Climate Control and leather are available on the initial Corolla XLE launch in Canada? That trim would seem to be the equivalent of the V6 XLE Camry trim.
The answer to your question is that Toyota builds lower-priced models for areas with lower incomes. That's why lots of cars in stock in Virginia (with Richmond, and the whole DC metro area) have pricey options that cars in parts of the midwest do not.
It's a lousy practice, but like everything else Toyota does intentionally, I am sure it sells more cars.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Don't like it? Choose another ZIP. Buy out of region. There are a slew of Northeast buyers that take the Shuttle to DC and buy from Laurel/Carmax ( #2 in the US ) and Fitzmall. We get out share with buyers who dislike the structure of the SET pricing.
You're right it does sell more and make more money overall. Rather than have some monolithic department in Detroit or LA or Kentucky or NY make the decisions for the entire country that key decision is made on a regional level.
In addition nothing is set in stone. These pricing decisions are constantly being reviewed at regional meetings of the Sales Managers...if not monthly then at least quarterly. Then the stores themselves have a lot of latitude in deciding what sells for them. If one store is in an upscale neighborhood and one is in a blue collar neighborhood each might order its individual inventory entirely different.
$18,095 for an Elantra SE with automatic, sunroof and (includes heated seats and satellite radio not included on Corolla S above price)
Corolla is not worth $3,000 more to me. Hello Hyundai.
Mazda3 would be my choice at $20,000 plus.
Mack
Mack
Regarding the pricing difference of $2-$3000 it's intentional by both companies. Hyundai knows that it would never be able to move any metal if it priced it's key products at the CamCord / CorVic price levels. Toyota knows as the price leader knows that when it prices its vehicles that the otherw will key off these prices.
Toyota model is 'X'
Honda is X - $200
Nissan is X - $500
Mazda is X - $700
Hyundai is X - $2000
As long as these relationships are kept in line the world of auto pricing is in balance.
If you want an S trim you HAVE to take at least $3,000 worth of option pkgs..
That must be just in your region. In my region the least expensive Corolla S automatic is $18,595.
Is there a DIFFERENT Toyota Motor Company in each region?
The rest of the distributors also order their vehicles but don't always get what they want, these is the "preferencing" system Toyota has. Say they project 1000 Corollas will be sold in the month of March. Out of those 1000 there will be a mix of all trim levels, an allocation is sent to each dealer based on the previous months sales. The more you sell the more vehicles that will be on the allocation. On that allocation it will list the trim levels you will get, the options, and color.Based on what you preferenced the month before your allocation might be the same or it may change. That's why you see some dealers have a ton of silver Corollas while another dealer might be partial to the Desert sand, etc. etc.
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Not true kd, only the ones with the upgrade JBL EJ. The other sound systems are sat capable but you still need the receiver, although the antenna is standard on all trims.
Mack
Honda is X - $200
Nissan is X - $500
Mazda is X - $700
Hyundai is X - $2000
Two problems with your pricing "model".
First, Mazda is more expensive than Toyota when comparing the 3 to the Corolla. Mazda positioned the 3 as a "premium" compact when it replaced the Protege.
Second, regarding Honda a comparison of a Civic EX automatic at less the $20,000 vs. a Corolla S automatic pkg. B at $21,405 shows Toyota to be over $1400 more than comparable Honda.
Of course, you do get a 4 speed automatic for you extra $1400 for the Corolla compared to 5 speed automatic in the Civic.
Overall, the Corolla is a good car, it's just not the leader in features, technology or value as it has been many times in the past.
I've owned several Corollas over the years and each time I purchased one it was an easy decision as they offered the best product for the money, not anymore with Gen 10 or Gen 9.
Toyota sells optional receiver for Sirius or XM for the non-JBL radios in Corolla.
Optional is not standard.
From the respective websites...
The Civic EX AT is $20145 ( no Navi ) with essentially no options - but also no VSC/Trac and $21895 ( w/ Navi ).
The Corolla XLE AT has different levels of equipment at the customer's option - but all but one option include VSC/Trac
Pckg A @ $18860+
Pckg B @ $19750+
Pckg C @ $20119+
Pckg D @ $20509+
Pckg E @ $20810+
Pckg E @ $21629+
+Alloy wheels are extra
Add the AW extra and the Toyota ( Pckgs B & F ) is slightly higher than the two equivalent Honda models but with more equipment. The customer also has 4 other options if they so choose.
Also, the Civic EX is very well equipped as-is, including moonroof, cruise, remote locking, and 16" alloys. The only major missing feature is VSA, which is reported coming to the entire Civic lineup for the 2009 MY.
*Your Toyota Region May Vary
Adding alloy wheels will add least $500. VSC is NOT included for the $20,560.
So the Civic EX is a minimum of $1,000 less than XLE comparably equipped and an greater savings will be achieved based on actual market pricing.
Five speed automatic standard on Civic, not available on XLE Corolla.
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Would you prefer to compare it to 7030 series John Deere tractor? Jeez.
Perhaps some Toyota fanatics never consider ANY brand other than Toyota.
In order to determine the benchmark in the compact sedan segment there has to be some objective measure.
I would argue that Corolla no longer sets the standard.
Over the years I have owned 2 Civics and 2 Corollas, the only thing that impressed me about either one was mpg,reliability,and resale....the only 3 things that even matter in cars at this level.
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It appears that Canada is getting SKS and Auto Climate but the US is not. Can't confirm for sure but from other sites it appears that up North the options are different.