Toyota Tundra Owner Experiences

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  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    what 4wd buttons are available on the tundra? 4hi and 4lo?

    Silverados have
    auto 4wd (i use this when the ground is wet)
    4wd hi - snow (more than a few inches)
    4wd lo - mud sand (havent had to use this yet)
  • controlgodcontrolgod Member Posts: 14
    My new Tundra has the following items: RC,AB,CK,DZ,LD,OF,PX,VP,DH,CF - the color is Sunfire Red Pearl with oak cloth interior. I asked the Internet sales person if they would rap it in a red ribbon if it arrived before Christmas - he smiled, chuckled and said "Sure". I'm going to see if he remembers.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    almost sounds like those car commercials

    lady gives her husband a toy car and takes his pic. The real one is in the driveway with a bow

    perfect timing
  • controlgodcontrolgod Member Posts: 14
    The main difference is that I'm buying this one for myself.

    Who knows, maybe if I put on the Santa suit that I have in storage I might be able to find a Mrs. Santa.

    Or better yet, I can get the picture taken and sent into Toyota and get them to put in a commercial. (Yeah right, not in this life time.)

    Happy Holidays Everyone. I'll be thinking of all of you while I'm chasing Santa and his reindeer in my new ride.

    Tony K. aka Controlgod
  • hutch7hutch7 Member Posts: 88
    The Tundra has 4HI and 4LOW, no auto feature. The owners manual is kind of vague on when to use 4HI,
    just says not to use on dry pavement.
  • kg11kg11 Member Posts: 530
    On my std cab taco I use 4HI in town on wet pavement,otherwise with the V6 I can't keep the rear wheels hooked up.On my Sierra 2500HD I use 4HI to beach luanch my boat.I use it on both trucks in the snow.
    kip
  • duckshooterduckshooter Member Posts: 156
    Thanks Ryan and Quad. Quad you're closer on the mark, but I don't believe it was that serious. There has been no indication in either the coolant or on the dipstick - and the oil has been changed once already since that incident.

    Having lived everywhere in the world (nearly) I know cold weather water vapor... and this wasn't it.

    The truck was in my garage and like I said, I had driven through pouring rain the night before and then it got really cold that night (below freezing) The loud sound was like a very rough diesel, but louder. And the truck was vibrating bad. I turned the key off immediately - like after less than five seconds. I didn't want to push my luck by letting it run. When I got out to check under the hood, I noticed the garage had a lot of white smoke that stank of oil in it - like fog oil.

    After checking under the hood, checking the dipstick and coolant - I gave it another try. Flawless, normal start. The problem hasn't recurred, and like I said, there was no indication of oil in the coolant or coolant in the oil. I sort of forgot all about it until I read someone else's post - and was wondering if anybody else had ever experienced the same thing.

    What I'm wondering is, did the weather have something to do with it? From my 4Runner days (I had the V6) the starting procedure said you're supposed to press the accelerator down all the way once before turning the ignition - this sets engine temperature sensing and configures the electronic fuel injection I guess. I don't normally do that in the Tundra and I suppose I need to get the book out and check it out. Anyway, would it have possibly resulted in the white smoke scenario? I don't know, but the temperature and humidity had changed a lot between when the engine last ran and when I started it the next morning.

    Any other ideas along this line?

    Jeff
  • dch0300dch0300 Member Posts: 472
    After reading your more detailed white smoke, rough diesel scenario, it reminded me of a similar incident with my wife's 1997 Saturn SW2 a few years ago. I went to start it one morning and during the first attempt at it I was too quick with releasing the key so the starter didn't run long enough to get the engine running. I immediately turned the key on again to start the engine, however on this second attempt the engine started running but the darn thing started coughing and sounding rough like a diesel, and I too got the large puff of white smoke coming out of the exhaust. It almost acted like it was flooded.....but with fuel injection?
    I immediately shut if off, and based on some previous knowledge I went and pressed the gas pedal all the way to the floor and held it there while I proceeded to try starting it again. It turned over for about 10 seconds and then it started up just fine. Haven't had the problem since.
    I don't remember much about the weather, temperature, or humidity since the car is always parked in the garage and there always seems to be high humidity here in the Seattle area. 18 inches of rain since Oct 1.
  • duckshooterduckshooter Member Posts: 156
    Glad to hear I'm not the only person this has happened to.

    We could really use some of that rain here in DC (we're way behind on average annual).

    Jeff
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    That's really hard to fathom. But I agree, a headgasket doesn't sound like a rough diesel, it's a bang. It makes me want to guess that possibly there was some water or moisture in airbox or intake tract, but I doubt it.

    I once had a rather embarrasing misdiagnosis. My nephew had a Maxima, that he said engine caught fire under the hood, towed to dealer. Dealer wanted too much money for a new engine so I went to an engine rebuild shop. They said it's too hard to properly rebuild a Maxima engine, easier and cheaper to just get a fresher one out of a wreck. He located one, put it in. Of course, on a short block, most of your old equipment gets reused. When he started the engine, it ran rough, the exhaust manifold began glowing RED HOT, stuff started to melt and burn away almost faster than we noticed it happening. Shut it down. Turns out the problem was the computer. Replaced it. Fixed it. But for whatever it doing or not doing with timing or fuel, I would never have guessed it could get so bad as to start a fire, but it did. Live and learn. Probably didn't even need the replacement short block we put in.
  • dch0300dch0300 Member Posts: 472
    I can sure see why some of you Tundra owners like having a bit smaller truck (when compared to the full size Big 3 trucks), especially when it comes to finding a parking spot at the shopping malls during the Christmas season. What a hassle!! I spent about 20 minutes last night driving around searching for a large enough parking spot to park in so that I could have enough room to open the drivers door for me to get out and to open the extra-cab doors so I could get my kids out.
    I swear they are making parking stalls smaller and smaller these days.

    Jeff,
    I'd love to send you as much rain as you need if I could.
    We've had over 37" of rain since Jan 1, and half of that has been since Oct 1.
    How has work at the Pentagon been?
    Have you ever eaten peacock before? A friend of mine at work has a problem with a neighbor having her 7 peacocks out all the time. They come over and shi* all over his deck. Next time they do that he is going to shoot them. I'm thinking that barbecued peacock might taste pretty good, sort of like pheasant maybe? I'll let you know.
  • duckshooterduckshooter Member Posts: 156
    I bet they'd be delicious though.

    Work at the pentagon is like it always was, always is, and always will be. Drudgery! The real action is happening elsewhere.

    But I do get to watch the progress on the rebuilding. Impressive to say the least. They will have first occupants in on 11 Sep 2002.

    The parking lot here has narrow spots as well. I like to watch this guy with a Ford F350 who pulls in some days around the same time I do. And you don't dare take two spots or they'll tow you. He takes a spot that's empty on both sides and just hopes that when he comes out at night the other cars are gone! He sticks out a good bit, too, but I don't think he'll ever have to worry about someone hitting his truck.
  • fischdafischda Member Posts: 272
    I was stationed there '96 to '00, and I had a Ford Ranger 4X4, manual. I got rid of it because of rush hour traffic and parking on the streets (truck was too long for so many spots). Now in Dayton, I was amazed at how much wider parking spots are! We're moving to Omaha and buying a house, so time to get another truck!

    Are you Tundra owners, or Ford/Chevy?
  • controlgodcontrolgod Member Posts: 14
    and can't wait to leave work today and have some time off to get to know my new steed.

    The weather forecasts here call for snow and all that fun stuff to start late tonight. With lows down to 0 and highs of maybe 20 by Christmas. The only snow we've had was about 10+ inches around Thanksgiving and it's all gone now.

    I want to see how much different the Tundra handles vs my '93 T100 SR5 4WD. With the V8, Off Road Package and LSD there's going to be a heck of a difference vs a 3 liter V6, & 5 spd. man.
    I guess that I'll need to watch that right foot of mine.

    Everyone including the Big 2 1/2 folks have a Happy and safe Holiday this extended weekend.

    Tony K. aka Controlgod
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    One question was the LSD (limited slip not the drug) standard from the factory or a dealer installed option?
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Member Posts: 235
    The LSD is an option from the factory for 2002 Tundras.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Do you have any specs on it? I am just curious. What brand is it

    Thanks for the info ND
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    It is made by Toyota's industrial truck division called Hino.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Hi hows it going thanks for the info.
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Member Posts: 235
    As cliffy mentioned it is made by Hino. I have heard that it is different from the TRD aftermarket LSD unit. But I cannot find out what the difference is. I do not know if the slip limiting ratio is the same on both units. We do know that the TRD unit is almost $800, but the Hino stock option unit costs $275. If anyone has info on the differences between both units please tell me.
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    is it a LSD or locking rear?
  • ratboy3ratboy3 Member Posts: 324
    I always thought the truck division of Toyota was M.A.N...

    ...in the Philippines... Hino, M.A.N and Isuzu are the trucks you see... MAC and the like must be very expensive there...
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    It is a limited slip. As to the differences? I have no idea.

    Things are going great by the way and thanks for asking. I'm no longer in sales but have moved into the finance office. More pay and less stress... what's not to like.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    That's what happend to my salesman Cliffy. Burnout!

    Fianance office? Let's see...that's the sale after the sale, fabric protection, undercoating, extended warranty plans...

    Just yankin' you chain. Merry Christmas!
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    a little off topic sorry but what do you think of the new camrys.

    Are they better built than the 2000's? My gandpa thinks so. He wants to dump his 2000 already for a new one. Says his is built tinny and the new ones are more solid

    Ryan
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    No, I don't sell rust and dust. I do offer warranties and arrange financing. In the 8 years I've been in the business, I've been offered this job 6 times and turned it down. I thought it looked very boring. My boating accident over the summer required that I sit down. The finance office was to be temporary until I healed enough to chase customers down on the lot. It turns out I like this and am good at it, so here I'll stay.

    As to the Camry... I actually like it. Were I not a truck kind of person, I might even look at buying one. The SE is the first Camry I've ever seen that I can picture myself driving.
  • dustykdustyk Member Posts: 2,926
    .....Access Cab models, either in 2wd or 4wd.

    What are you folks getting highway and city?

    Thanks in advance,
    Dusty
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Member Posts: 235
    So far I am getting an AVERAGE of 17.4 mpg on my 4X2 in combined city/highway driving
  • capt2capt2 Member Posts: 57
    I have a very early 2000 V8 SR5 Access 4x4 that now has 32,000 miles. Except for the light recall and oil changes it has not seen the dealership since new. Probably a little above average. The only burning question is should I turn it in at lease's end for a new one or keep what has so far been perfect one? Mileage around 17 since new.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    Wouldn't that depend on what your residual value is? Some leases are front loaded, others where the manufacturer believes the vehicle will hold its value are not. Take a look at yours and compare with what the current Blue book value is.
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Member Posts: 235
    I have a 2002 4x2 and there are not many changes worth changing a truck over. Wait until the 2003-4 when the Tundra will be redesigned. There is talk of 4 real doors and a larger engine.
  • lariat1lariat1 Member Posts: 461
    More cab space and an engine that will tow!? I might have to look at the Tundra again in a couple of years. The main thing that kept me out of a Tundra last year was the inability to get my sons car seat in the back and I also wanted a little more torque than the 4.7 could offer.
  • ndahi12ndahi12 Member Posts: 235
    The engine can tow very well. It is not up to the towing capacity of the 5.3/5.4 engine on chevy and ford, but it can tow.


    Just read how much this guy towed with it http://www.tundrasolutions.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8890


    The rear seat for a family is an issue. But I beleive there will be a bigger 4 door Tundra in 2004 with more power as well.

  • natureboy1natureboy1 Member Posts: 55
    Funny thing is I also used to have a 93 T100 4X4 SR5 and now I have a 2001 Tundra TRD 4X4...

    Loved both trucks.

    Really liked that old T100 myself. It is a big jump going from a 150 horse 3.0 V6 to a 245 horse V8.
  • controlgodcontrolgod Member Posts: 14
    You're not kidding about the about the jump in power. I'm just trying to remember to take it easy. The Tundra runs so smooth and quiet that you hardly notice how fast you're going until you look at the speedo...or the people in your rearview mirror. ;)

    I'm still used to how much gas pedal and rpms it took to get the T100 going (not that it didn't go well). The same behavior in the Tundra will get me on a first name basis with the local law enforcement - if you know what I mean.
  • f1julesf1jules Member Posts: 288
    So, can you fit a childs seat in the back of the tundra? When I bought mine this was not an issue as we have no kids but I just found out two days ago that my wife is pregnent with our first child! So, I guess I need to start thinking about these things-hehehe.

    Jules passes cigars to all his fellow Tundra owners-ah hell, you Chevy, Ford and Dodge guys (and gals) can have one too.

    Happy Holiday's everyone!
  • ryanbabryanbab Member Posts: 7,240
    Congrats F1
  • controlgodcontrolgod Member Posts: 14
    I'll take a fine cup of freshly ground coffee to go with that cigar that you're passing out.

    To me, you can't beat having a good cup of coffee and a good cigar while sitting back and relaxing. Unfortunately, I haven't had time for either lately and am stuck working today.

    Congratulations on the happy news.
  • hutch7hutch7 Member Posts: 88
    Since it seems there are some informed individuals around these days I'll re-ask a question that has been ignored once b4. When are people using 4wd on their Tundra's? Only off road or on wet roads? My last set of wheels was an AWD Sube so I never had to think about it. The owners manual is pretty vague in this area.I don't want to overstress my powertrain...what's the consensus??
  • hillhoundhillhound Member Posts: 537
    Only use it when traction is poor enough for one of the front wheels to slip when you TURN. Never on dry pavement-very limited use on wet pavement. Any offroad area, gravel/dirt or ice/snow covered road is fine. Remember, the chance for damage exists only when you turn because that's when the front wheels turn at different speeds and one side needs to slip. As long as you travel in a straight line you won't hurt anything.

    If you want to see this in action-go find a level, dry grassy meadow. Put your truck in 4hi and make a few sharp turns at about 10mph then get out and take a look at the grass. You'll notice the grass will have been torn up under the front wheel which needs to slip. The grass allows slippage but dry pavement will hold the tire and put dangerous stress on the front diff and maybe the driveshaft/transfer case.

    The Tundra's front drivetrain is as strong as any 4wd pickup but it can be damaged if this happens too much.
  • madtruckermadtrucker Member Posts: 1
    I'm new to this forum, but I am not a new Toyota owner. I have a 1986 Toyota Extra-cab SR5 that I'm considering replacing. It's got about 150K miles on it, and is going to need some engine work in the near future. (it's using oil, and the timing chain is beginning to make noise.) It's also quite under-powered in the hills. (It did great while I was down in the lower 48 states, where there weren't too many hills, and it didn't get loaded too heavily!)
    I'm glad to hear that the new Toyotas are still as reliable as the old, and I'm wondering if some of you informed "new-Toyota" owners might be able to give me some advice!
    How do you think the Tundra rates in comparison with the Tacoma? I'm definitely going to buy a Toyota, but I'm not certain which one, yet. I'm leaning towards the Tundra because I'd really like to upgrade a bit on size, but I'm only familiar with Toyota's smaller SR5. How much useable "extra room" do you really get? Also, benefits of automatic vs. standard? My old Toyota is a standard, but at -60 degrees, hydraulic clutch slave cylinders sometimes get blown out. Is there any compromise on towing/hauling power with the automatic? Which option do you prefer?
  • f1julesf1jules Member Posts: 288
    The best way to evaluate the size difference between the Tundra and the Tacoma would be to drive down to your local Toyota dealership and compare them side by side. The Tundra is a much larger truck. I haven't driven the Tacoma but the interior in the Tundra is much more roomy. The back seat in the extended cab is large enough to seat two adults comfortably for short periods of time and with the seats folded up you can store a good amount of stuff back there also. I like the V8 engine in the Tundra also, in fact, the engine was probably the most determining factor when I bought my Tundra.
  • ratboy3ratboy3 Member Posts: 324
    In my Tacoma... I can reach and unlock the passenger door... and open the rear sliding window from the driver seat... in my Tundra... no can do... there.
  • duckshooterduckshooter Member Posts: 156
    I have a Tundra - V8 Limited. Parking is not a problem for me as the truck fits fine in my garage next to my wife's Sienna... and I park at the Pentagon each day (North parking has spots big enough for a truck). Yes, it is NOT what I wanted this truck for, but I am hoping and praying to God every day that I will one day be back in my environment!
  • duckshooterduckshooter Member Posts: 156
    Average about 15-16 normally. Got 21 on a long distance drive (650 miles). Get less when towing (average around 14).

    Jeff
  • duckshooterduckshooter Member Posts: 156
    Capt2 - I leased mine originally thinking the market would be a better place to put my cash. Bright idea, huh?

    I recently scraped some cash together and bought the lease out and am making payments for the next five years. Depending on your situation, this is what you might consider doing. I've decided this truck is going to be mine for the long haul.

    Jeff
  • duckshooterduckshooter Member Posts: 156
    The deal with the carseat isn't that it doesn't fit - it's that the back seats don't recline at all and they are straight verticle. Putting your kid in there for anything longer than that is like child abuse!

    But come to think of it, if you're talking about the infant car carrier - the thing you mount backward facing - it might NOT fit because of its length. That was a few years ago for me...

    Jeff
  • duckshooterduckshooter Member Posts: 156
    I'm finally going duck hunting this year - in Alabama! But I won't have the truck with me... we're taking my wife's Sienna for the long trip from here in DC. So picture this: infamous Duckshooter finally gets to go this year - in his wife's Sienna! Gotta take out those back seats for the shotguns, dog kennel, waders and decoy bags.

    Actually my bud in Bama is going to be doing the driving once we get there and he's got a Suburban. But it's still going to look goofy with all my gear in the back of that minivan on the way!

    Tell you how I did when I get back.

    Jeff
  • f1julesf1jules Member Posts: 288
    Well, I know the rear seatbacks in the Tundra are straight up and down but I don't think this will be an issue. I've sat back there for extended periods of time and I was perfectly comfortable (I'm 5'11") so your claim of child abuse is ridiculous. In looking at the rear seat further I think it should fit a child seat just fine.

    I cannot reach the passenger side door from the drivers seat or the rear slider.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    If you're going to test drive anyway, might as well take the car seat with you and try it for yourself. Only was I know of to be absolutely sure.
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