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  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Ah, obviously a Citroen of some model. I don't know it off the top of my head.

    Why/how does that VW Thing have Chevy S-10 wheels? :confuse:
  • scoopyexscoopyex Member Posts: 31
    because they have the same bolt pattern on the hubs and some lugnut put them on it.
  • karsickkarsick Member Posts: 312
    Because somebody got tired of VW's odd bolt pattern, bolted on some adapters, and then bought those 5x4.5 wheels off a Jeep Cherokee ;) .
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,022
    That's something that just hit me...wouldn't the VW Thing have the same bolt pattern as a Beetle? And I remember Beetles having those odd, old fashioned, hollowed-out wheels with a very wide bolt pattern.
  • karsickkarsick Member Posts: 312
    You're (mostly) right about the Thing's bolt pattern, although the Beetle switched to a more common narrow 4-bolt pattern around 1967 (to go to front disc brakes, I presume?).

    Every "Thing" I've ever seen, though, had that older, wide 5-bolt pattern, which I'm sure made the wheel adapters popular.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    This is the new Citroen C5...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    1948 (?) Chrysler - was this limo still known as the Imperial ?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    1948 (?) Chrysler - was this limo still known as the Imperial

    Yeah, it's a '49 Chrysler Crown Imperial..

    PS-Correcto as well on the Cit C5.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    Hyundai Genesis coupe, with the weird rear quarter window dip that I don't care for
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    I can take or leave the rear quarter window, but I do like that they kept the distinctive shape for production.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I agree and have mixed feelings.

    They took some risks, and it does look like the concept. So no watered down production version.

    But...did the headlights have to mimick Lexus? I just don't like that front-end much.

    The profile is neat. I like the C-pillar.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'm going to guess Mercury.

    One of those late 70s early 80s big-on-the-outside-but-small-on-the-inside coupes that made buying a Civic or Corolla a popular trend at the time. :D
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,105
    Nope, it's a Mopar - '75 Dodge Magnum? Ignoring the weight, etc, I thought the styling was OK for the time.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    Yeah the stretched headlights are pretty crap, but at least they are somewhat thin/narrow, not like on the ridiculous looking Solara or the prev gen ES.

    I think that rear window breaks the beltline, makes it look disjointed.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,105
    It also has some G37 coupe in the front end, along with lots of that bodywork scupting that Hundai seems to really like.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I know what you mean, but the window is bigger and actually looks functional from a visibility standpoint.

    Without that cue, it would be a G35 or Altima coupe clone.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I don't know how much visibility it actually adds...it's not a large window, and the dip is what, 1cm?

    I can see it as a differentiation tool - different for the sake of being different, if anything.

    And I'm not bashing the car, don't get me wrong...show that thing to the head of Hyundai USA 20 years ago, tell him it's a future Hyundai, and I am certain he wouldn't believe you. I just find the dip off-putting.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'd have to see it in person. Both outside (to get a close look at that rear window) and inside (to see if there is any effect on visibility.

    It does seem like there is a window there. Often times that's just an afterthought to the design.
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    Reminds me of an earlier generation of this thing, so 5000 SUX? :P

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,022
    1978-79 Magnum XE coupe. About the closest thing to a musclecar left in production by that time. You could get a 400-4bbl in the '78 that was still sorta quick, or a 360-4bbl in '79 that might've gotten it from 0-60 in just under 10 seconds. Most of them just had 318's or 360-2bbls though, I believe.

    There was still a 440-4bbl floating around in 1978, but I don't think you could get it in the Magnum, or its sister the Cordoba.

    They're horribly space-inefficient by today's standards, but pretty good compared to a '73-77 era GM coupe or a Ford LTD-II. However, GM's downsized '78-intermediates blew everything else out of the water when it came to getting a decent amount of interior room in a smaller package.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,022
    Considering what a low-budget movie RoboCop was, I always thought the 6000SUX came off pretty good. They used a '73-77 era Cutlass Supreme sedan as the basis. IIRC, they chose that platform because they wanted a big car, but they still wanted something that would lend itself to being molded over into a futuristic looking car. This generation of A-body sedan had an open, airy, almost futuristic looking greenhouse.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Andre nails it, it's a 1979 Magnum XE.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Looks like that of an early '50s Pontiac. Not sure exactly what year.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    I'll guess a 1954 Pontiac

    That color is somewhat unique.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Very pastel. Reminds me of a color Porsche used for a Boxster.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,022
    I think the biggest problem with that dip in the rear window is that it really messes up the way the beltline flows, and it makes it look like two totally different cars were joined at the B-pillar. If the bottom of the door window dropped down toward the back, instead of coming straight across, and they re-shaped the rear window to line up with it, it might have looked better. Otherwise though, the car's pretty attractive.

    Also, if those rear windows are anything like the typical stationary flush-mounted window of today, the actual opening, what you can look out of, is probably about 1/3 the area of that outer glass.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    I'll guess a 1954 Pontiac

    Yep, it is a 1954 Pontiac Star Chief Catalina. Pastel colors of that sort were commonplace starting from the mid-'50's to the early '60s. I sure don't recall anything like that on the Boxster or any modern car.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,022
    I'm gonna guess a 1950 Chrysler New Yorker convertible?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,429
    That yelllow isn't too far off of the color they use on the Chrysler Crossfire... At least, that's the closest for any modern car...

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,671
    How 'bout a 1951 Chrysler. It's also a buttermilk cream color but not nearly as rich as the Pontiac was.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Good guess but it's a '50 Windsor, it looks like the top-of the-line with those Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels. I don't know the pecking order for Chryslers of that era.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Note the woman loading thru the window>

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I'll leave this one, but the artist has the perspective wrong - the bonnet looks as though it has been twisted off it's hinges.
  • karsickkarsick Member Posts: 312
    Hillman Imp? :confuse:

    I've seen a few used as rally cars in Finnish videos.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    Maybe rust already ate the hinge mount :P
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Hillman Imp?

    Yep, it's the Hillman/Riley/Singer/Sunbeam Imp, ca.id 60's, the heyday of British badge engineering and the end of the road for Rootes and BMC.

    I didn't notice the screwy angle of the hood. :lemon:

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,022
    Good guess but it's a '50 Windsor, it looks like the top-of the-line with those Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels. I don't know the pecking order for Chryslers of that era.

    Yeah, those Kelsey-Hayes wheels were what threw me off and made me think it was a higher-end model. Back in those days, the lineup pretty much went Windsor-New Yorker-Imperial, although sometimes they'd break the Windsor out into two sub-series, like Windsor and Windsor DeLuxe. Ditto the NYer. And some years, they slipped the Saratoga in there, which was kinda like a Buick Century...the bigger NYer engine in the lighter Windsor body.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,105
    "Yeah, those Kelsey-Hayes wheels were what threw me off "

    How many cars really came with the KHs, anyway? Seems to me like the fancy wheels you see on so many restored 60s Mustangs - I never remember seeing so many back in the the 60s!
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,022
    How many cars really came with the KHs, anyway? I'd imagine they were pretty rare back in the day. I have an old Chrysler history book that shows some factory pics of 1953-era Chryslers and DeSotos with them. I think there's a pic of one of those stubby '53-54 Plymouths or Dodges with 'em, too.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669

    How many cars really came with the KHs, anyway? Seems to me like the fancy wheels you see on so many restored 60s Mustangs - I never remember seeing so many back in the the 60s!

    Yep they were pretty rare, all right. Certain limited edition cars came with them from the factory, the '53 and '54 Buick Skylarks come to mind and I think they could be ordered on certain Eldorados and Thunderbirds. KH wires were available for almost any car via the aftermarket but were very expensive and rare.

    As ther 50s melted into the 60s and Euro Sports Cars became more commonplace
    the wire-wheel look became increasingly popular. Snap-On wire wheel covers could be and were ordered on everything from humble Falcons and Valiants to Rivieras and Galaxies. I'd estimate perhaps as many as 1/3 of all '65-'66 Mustangs wore them.

    By the mid-'60s the "Mag wheel" had supplanted the wire wheel as the wheel to
    have on sports cars and sporty cars. Naturally cheaper stamped steel wheels and wheel discs were often employed to mimic the look of magnesium and alloy racing wheels. By the turn of the decade the wire wheel, whether real or faux, had practically disappeared from new cars.

    Here's a late example of a fake wire cover on an unusual application>
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    Care to guess what this is on.?

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Looks almost like a DS - but surely not !
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I agree, that's a DS
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Looks almost like a DS - but surely not !

    You guys are sharp today, it's a DS20 Decapotable. I have no idea why anyone would put such a phony retro item on the most avant-garde automobile ever made. :lemon:

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    Wheels are not stock. ;)

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