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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Not Australian
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Chrysler Avenger AKA Plymouth Cricket (Rootes UK-built "Captive" Import)?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    I believe that's a Chrysler 180 from about 1975, give or take.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,674
    >Sorry if this is a stupid question,

    I was going to ask the same question, so you weren't alone in not having heard that term. :blush:

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  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Maybe it's a Canadian term not used down south much, eh? ;)

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Close enough - it's a Chrysler 2 litre, from 1973. The 2-litre was a development of the Chrysler 180, which had been introduced in late 1971, I think, and the later car was available until about 1977/8. It was built in France, by the Simca arm of Chrysler, and was a larger car than the Avenger/Cricket that you are familiar with over there. It was intended originally to badge it as a Humber in Britain, but that didn't happen... They are almost extinct and virtually forgotten now, and I've never seen one anywhere else in Europe although they must have sold it in France etc when new...This was at a car show in London a couple of months ago, and it's the first one I've seen for years.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,674
    >term not used down south

    At least not in Western Ohio. I find terms like that interesting. Friends of ours transplanted from Ohio to Central Tennessee were talking about buggies when she was shopping at the grocery store. Also new term, and sort of auto related since it has four wheels.Grin. :blush:

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    You mean you don't put it on toast?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    studebaker. 1960ish?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    studebaker. 1960ish?

    That's good as far as it goes, anybody know what Stude called their '60s pickup?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    Studebaker Champ, that's probably from 1962 or so.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Studebaker Champ, that's probably from 1962 or so.

    Yup!

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Lancia Flaminia Zagato?
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Mmm, IMO Lancia Flaminia Coupe, 1957. One of the three Flaminia versions (Coupe, Touring and Zagato) sculpted by Pininfarina.

    Regards,
    Jose
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I'm going to say Flaminia Supersport Zagato but later year, 59-62, around there. Hard to date these things. This may be an export model.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Shifty got the most correct answer, it's a 1962 Lancia Flaminia Sport Zagato

    Sorry, Jose but the Sport Zagato by definition couldn't have been styled by Pininfarina, a competitor of Carrozzeria Zagato.

    Elio Zagato, son of the founder of Zagato, Ugo Zagato, died recently.

    Elio Zagato 1921-2009.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Golf GTI VI and the new Scirocco.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Close Juice, it's not a GTI, it's the new 2010 Golf R, successor to the Golf R32.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Nice...still not STI/EVO numbers but it should at least be on par with the regular WRX and Ralliart models.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    '62 Chevy C10 stepside

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Did they use the same grille for both GMC and Chevy for a couple of years before differentiating? This one looks like it's made to handle the quad lights of the GMC.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Dodge Lancer, ~1961?
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Always thought those original Valiants and Lancers were nice looking cars for their time. The original 60 Valiant was not a Plymouth and could also be found at some Dodge dealers before the Lancer was introduced in 61. I prefered the trapezoidal grill on the Valiants.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The big buzz on them was that they had ALTERNATORS----wow! :surprise:
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Dodge Lancer, ~1961? Exactly!

    And speaking of the old slant six with an 'alternator' instead of a generator, when I was a kid we got a 1960 Plymouth 3-speed stick - - the first year for the Slant Six. It ended up being a great car after the bugs got worked out. At first it always stalled out during any rain - seems the distributor was kind of low and not very waterproof. I remember it getting 24 mpg on a long road trip...
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...had a white 1961 Plymouth Valiant with a red interior. I believe it was the car on which my Mom learned to drive. I thought they were pretty cool looking cars. I would've chosen the Valiant over the weird Corvair and the dull Falcon if I was shopping for a compact in 1960.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Didn't some of them have an aluminum-block version of the slant six?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yes they offered an aluminum block SL6 in both the 170 and 225 I believe. They didn't make many of them, maybe 40,000---50,000 or so, from 1961-63. They had cast iron cylinder liners and an iron head. This made for very tricky head gasket sealing. Also, "beefing up" this aluminum block for more power was not recommended for obvious reasons.

    Some historians think that this aluminum block was also installed in a few larger cars.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Just a quick guess: Alpha Romeo Giulietta, mid Fifties to mid Sixties, last Century, naturally! :)

    Regards,
    Jose
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Close, Jose and about right on the year. But upon closer inspection that car certainly looks like a Alfa 2600 Sprint Coupe, not a Giulletta....the 2600 is a bit of a porker, no faster than the Giulletta, even with the latter's much smaller engine. The 2600 is nose heavy and not much fun to drive other than a straight line.

    You can identify it by the grille and that little spear above the front tire.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Shifty, I'm not among the Alfisti but I thought the 2600 was lower and a lot wider than the Giulietta. The car pictured looks pretty tall and narrow to me--I really think it is a Giulietta.

    Oh, and I think there's a Fiat 600D on the left side of the picture.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Actually I think you might be right, because on second thought I don't think the 2600 Sprint has that grille.

    Now I'm thinkin' it's a Giulia Sprint, about a 1964.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Actually I think you might be right, because on second thought I don't think the 2600 Sprint has that grille.

    Now I'm thinkin' it's a Giulia Sprint, about a 1964.


    Alfa-Romeo nomenclature from that period is so confusing I don't think any one can keep it straight, even the esteemed Mr. Shifty is a little off. The pictured car is a
    1959 Alfa- Romeo Giulietta Sprint
    , if it has aluminum doors and hood as well as bigger carbs it's a Sprint Veloce. What's the Italian for very confusing? :confuse:

    What's the deal w justification on these posts? :mad: :sick:

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Pics bigger than, say 640x400 skew our margins.

    We've about given up on "training" y'all to keep them sized a bit small, and I don't think the software will ever get "fixed" to autosize them either.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The problem (not making excuses) is that the 101 Giulia Sprint and the 101 Giullietta Sprint are almost freakin' identical, and if you can't see the whole car, or the script on the fender, you'd have to be around Alfas all the time to spot the difference from just a head shot. Giulia Type 105s are easy to spot of course.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Lately it seems I'm always in a hurry, but it is really like that. I don't know the name of the beast, though I can say she is one of the few sport MB I've liked recently. Very nice car.

    Regards,
    Jose
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Don't know what it is other than that it's a Mercedes. Does it have gullwing doors?
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG?
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Yes, it's the MB SLS, and yes, it has gullwing doors.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I was at the Frankfurt motor show on Monday, and actually saw two of these on the M-B stand - both red, as it happens... In Autocar magazine on Wednesday they said it is not possible to reach the door once you are seated in the car, so to close it you have to sort of drag it down as you get in or do a sort of jump to get it - doesn't strike me as a brilliant feature, although I understand the significance of it historically.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    ...and the outer door handle is at about ankle height...huh?

    I hope it looks better in person. That's a serious disappointment. The car that inspired it was gorgeous.

    My biggest problem with it is the miniature-looking greenhouse, it's like they took a hardtop off a diminuitive S2000 and put it on a giant roadster, welded on.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    I was thinking MB if anyone could make an auto opening and closing door feature for that car. The original wasn't easy to get in and out of to begin with - you sit a ways inboard and very low. I can't imagine the new one is easy either.

    It would have looked better with a more 300SL greenhouse, with the rear quarter window.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Here's the thing - it's form over function, for sure.

    Those doors must be heavy, and the door handles are hard to reach, inside and out.

    What disappoints is that the form, which got priority, doesn't impress.

    That may be the only car that only looks good with the doors open!
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