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2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan
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I once took Honda to arbitration for a squeak near the moonroof that they couldn't get rid of. I believe they gave me a $800 credit or something like that. I moved on after I got the credit . . I guess the ratttle didn't bother me as much afterward, or I thought, that is life.
I have heard the new Accords don't rattle like the older ones used to. Is that true?
The front pass. seat squeaks/rattles over pavement that isn't glass smooth if someone's not in it, and the seat is adjusted all the way back. Put someone in it, or scoot it forward, and it goes away.
I've got a new (admittedly minor) rattle in my 06 coming from either the driver's door, or the back driver's-side door, but I haven't figured it out yet. May have something in a door pocket I don't remember.
phrase like "Hello" or "Are you ready?". Most of the time, the words or phrases
happen when I first open the door, but they also occur while I am driving. At first,
I thought my wife and friend were crazy, then I thought I was crazy, now many
have heard it. It sounds like it comes from right under the radio in the center.
I have everything but the navigator system and I was wondering if maybe it "talks"
and a microchip is somehow being activated. I assure you I am sane and this is
a serious question.
Would crank but not start. Towed to dealership and checked out. Timing belt "shredded". The cause was not exactly determined, but a series of failures led to the timing belt and, of course, to the valves being destroyed. A repair is underway. :confuse:
Anyone hear of such a potentially dangerous (good thing we had pulled off of I-95) mechanical failure on a car with less than 34,000 miles?
By the way -- no warning lights, no sounds out of the ordinary. In fact, it was running like a top, as usual, until it stopped.
Is the tension on the belt maintained by oil pressure? If so, and if you haven't kept records of oil changes, then the dealership and/or the manufacturer may claim neglect, and decline to cover the cost of your repairs.
One more thought--could malfunctioning VCM have triggered this failure?
A timing belt made out of some flawed process/material could also fall apart on its own under normal use.
Oil pressure, driving fast/slow has no effect on timing belt. Too hot or too cold climate could make the belt go sooner than its 105K mile service interval but not at 34K miles.
Just make sure this repair is well documented. If it happens again, it is clearly a case of an engine put together not quite right. Make sure service manager puts down on your service order as when the next timin belt change is due and stick to it.
Joe
Thanks.
the service dept has reservations about whether they can fully restore the motor to its proper compression. This afternoon we'll find out.
I'll try to get a straight answer about the sequence of failures and pass it on. Thanks.
The dealership was directed by Honda to repair the works and they did. Runs like a top again.
No explanation why a year-and-a-half old water pump would go, except, "Fluke."
Glad it didn't Fluke-up at 80mph.
Meow. That's catty.
The current Accord is a very nice car. So is the current Camry. Unfortunately for Honda and Toyota, they are up against quite a few other very nice cars. Very nice is no longer good enough to guarantee continued domination of the market.
For several years running, the Accord's reliability has been matched or exceeded by the Ford Fusion and Hyundai Sonata, according to CR. Have these cars (built in Mexico and Alabama, respectively) been taking on too many Japanese vendors?
The truth of the matter is that reliability is a non-issue for most midsize cars now. Aside from the real bottom of the barrel (Chrysler), the current crop of Accord-class cars is an extraordinary group. This makes it harder for the Accord and Camry to differentiate themselves from competitors (Ford, Hyundai, GM) that wouldn't have been taken seriously five years ago.
Although we sold our 2008 Accord EX due to seat comfort issue, the car was well built. What Fusion, Sonata, and Malibu can NOT match is resale value of Accord or Camry. We sold the Accord $2K less than what I paid for 9K miles and 15 months later.
I sold my 1994 Accord (bought new) two year, 30K miles later $1000 less than what I bought it for.
Everyone is catching up with the reliability part, they still have a long way to go for the resale value part.
If you want to change cars every 2-3 years, Accords and Camrys are the best choices. If you keep the car 10-12 years, Fusion, Sonata, Malibu should be fine.
Joe
As Catbert says "PURRR -"
Lets give the new competitors a bit more time and see what they look like after 5 years and 60K. I hope you're right, but several times before I've heard this D3 is much better now, bought their products and been burned down the road. Its interesting how the new Mazda based Fusion looks good, while the Volvo based Taurus/500 has been mediocre. Shows there is no correlation between vehicle price and quality/reliability. The Opel based new GM offerings are a bit tight, but show promise. I think Hyundai needs a bit more work on suspension.
As for differentiating, I was waiting for a rental car awhile back at PHX and the Hertz person told me they actually got a few Accord's. Despite everyone dissing them as fugly, she said they never sit around long before someone rents them. Actually, you don't seem to get Fusions or Malibu's much as rentals any more. The rental hangar queens seem to be Hyundai/Kia and Nissan these days.
It might be a regional thing...most of the Ford rental cars have SYNC, which gives you the legally required hands-free interface for phone in most places. As a bonus, it has a USB iPod connection, something Honda still can't seem to get right (although at least they have a connection now, my '07 doesn't and no decent provision to add one).
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Honda-adds-437000-cars-to-apf-2428558261.html?x=0<b
I am probably going to by a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe that I have been leasing for 3 years (lease is up in July). I put $2 grand down and have been paying about $330 a month. Most sites I search say the value should be about $16 grand and that's what the dealership is offering me as well. Anyone have any differing opinions?
Thanks for the help.
I am probably going to by a 2008 Honda Accord Coupe that I have been leasing for 3 years (lease is up in July). I put $2 grand down and have been paying about $330 a month. Most sites I search say the value should be about $16 grand and that's what the dealership is offering me as well. Anyone have any differing opinions?
Thanks for the help.
$330/month x 36 months = $11,880 +$2000 down = $13,880 that you have paid so far.
What is the residual value written into the lease? Compare that with what you are interested in paying.
And do the math. $13,880 + $16,000 = $29,880. It better be some loaded Accord at that price.