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Entertainment. My wife and I thoroughly enjoy going to Vegas or the occasional gambling boat. We go a few times a year (Vegas every few years), take a few hundred bucks and when it's gone we leave. Sometimes we're not there long or like the last time I left about $1k richer;)
If it wasn't gambling debts, that loser likely would have jacked someone for drug money or something else.
San Diego's runway is 9400' long, which is a little short for fully loaded heavies. The 747 is fading as the big twins are so much more energy efficient. I believe British Airways has a nonstop to London on a 777 out of SAN. Still, with only one runway, SAN is a fairly pathetic airport for a city of its size.
But, we all know that isn't how the world works. A gambler is going to find a way to gamble, just like a drug addict is going to find a way to get drugs, legally or otherwise.
At least casinos make a reasonable effort at following regulations, and they provide employment for thousands of workers, from hotel staff to floor personnel.
My wife and kids go to Vegas every 2-3 years, primarily to see shows/comedians. Between the 4 of us, we probably gamble away less than $100 per trip.
I agree, I was just being sarcastic. Forgot the Emotor-con I guess.
I was robbed outside a casino, at gun point. Not fun.
Acceptance of the buyout could help Toyota reduce its overall manufacturing costs. Veteran Toyota workers earn around $26 an hour, plus bonuses while replacements would start at around $16 an hour, similar to the two-tier wage system that U.S. auto makers began last decade."
Toyota Offers U.S. Workers Retirement Incentives (Wall St Journal)
They're not exempt from being drug addicts or thugs. Like Gagrice mentioned, there are all type of people that have gambling or other addiction problems. Take away the casino or make the drug illegal, and they'll still find a way to get their fix.
‘Made in America Christmas’: Pledge to Spend $64 on US Gifts This Holiday (ABC)
It's sort of funny reading about the Los Angeles port strike. The beef isn't over pay but over outsourcing clerical jobs. (WHEC)
The clerks do important work making sure all that freight gets on the right train to Chicago or wherever.
All that freight from overseas that is. :P
Maybe if they offered to take a BIG cut in pay they could keep their jobs. Don't they realize there are cities in CA with 30% unemployed.
Will that cause shortages of Japanese and Korean cars coming into our market?
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Did anyone like the Big 3 sales numbers for November?
Got plans to buy a Chevy for Christmas?
Anyone get lost trying to get to a Sonny's BBQ joint in their Taurus?
Ford was slightly better than GM. Chrysler must be doing something right. Maybe Fiat is injecting some decent management into the company.
The German Luxury brands are all in record sales territory.
And then add to that, the industry as a whole was up 12% and their sales were up the least of the D3, well below industry average. So even with accelerating fleet sales, they are not holding market share. That's not a good sign.
Can GM survive with half the market share they have today? I've always felt (even pre-BK) that to be "right sized", GM would be 1/3 to 1/2 what they were at that time. Looks like they are going to get there, bailout or not. At some point there will be good vehicles left and the market will support that. Or at least the fleet market. But hopefully they are still big enough to survive.
I'm probably out of the market for awhile, since I blew my wad on a Ram back in September. But even if I was, I don't think GM really has anything in their lineup that would entice me.
At some point, my uncle's going to need to replace his '03 Corolla, which has about 220-230,000 miles on it. It still runs pretty well, and when it's broken, hasn't been too horribly expensive. Catalytic converters seem to be a weak point, and it did need a water pump awhile back, but otherwise it's been mostly maintenance stuff. But, nothing lasts forever.
When we were at the Dodge dealer getting my Ram, he sat in a Dart and liked it. I might suggest he look at a Cruze as well, when that time comes.
I'm kinda curious about the 2014 Impala, but just have a gut feeling I'd end up talking myself into a Charger instead. Hopefully that's a long way off though, as my 2000 Park Ave only has about 88,000 miles on it. It just got a big rip in the driver's seat leather that bugs the hell out of me though, and makes the car feel "old". But, it would be a lot cheaper to just take it to an upholstery shop than it would to buy a whole new car!
We should qualify that - the competition's trucks are newer, particularly V6 models. Dodge has the Pentastar/8 speed auto and Ford has the EcoBoost V6.
So they're competing with the oldest design, especially V6 models.
So they're competing with the oldest design, especially V6 models.
And from what I'm seeing, GM isn't really discounting their pickup trucks all that much, so that might be holding back sales. I've tried searching locally on Cars.com, and about the cheapest Silverado I could find was this stripper for $16,684. And it seems to be an anomaly, as most similarly equipped trucks started around $18,000.
Interestingly, with Dodge at least, I think the 4.7 V-8 has become the base engine, with the 3.6 V-6 being the next step up in price, and the Hemi being the most expensive. I wonder if it's gotten to the point that Dodge should just streamline things and get rid of the 4.7? I think the Ram is the only product that uses it anymore, and now that the 3.7 V-6 cut-off is gone, they're probably losing some economy of scale by keeping the 4.7 around.
So who's fault is that? How long before Ford passes GM in the USA? YTD Ford is up 5.4%, GM up only 3.5%. The other thing is Ford posts sales, GM deliveries. Is that the same thing?
So they're competing with the oldest design, especially V6 models.
The Ram and F150 are just nicer trucks all around from the powertrains to the interior. Heard yesterday GM has something like 138 days supply of trucks despite the rebate and will be cutting production.
The new trucks should have been here this year. Considering a new f150 is only a year or so away, and the Ram is upgraded again for 2013 the new GM trucks better be impressive or they will have a hard time winning back lost sales.
Looking at history, Ford will likely screw up, just like in the 90's when it looked like Ford could overtake GM in the US.
This Fusion/Escape recall could potentially hurt some of Ford's momentum and could be the screw up that reverses Ford's fortunes.
Also the Malibu seems to be a dud. It was outsold by the Fusion by 5k units in November despite Ford still having limited inventory at many dealers. Heck, even the Jetta outsold the Malibu in Nov. Focus outsold the Cruze by 2k units and the Focus is up about 7k units for the year
I drove by my local Chevy dealer last night and they had rows of Malibus vs. the local Ford dealer which only has 6 2013 Fusions in stock, vs 40 Malibus at the local chevy dealer per their respective websites.
The new Chevy/GM truck is due shortly. Kind of makes sense to cut back production of the old when the new is right around the corner.
It also makes since to cut production when sales are down.
Just looking at Edmunds inventory. Looks like So CA has about 2500 half ton Crew cab PUs on the lots. Many 2012 models still listed.
For the same area, Ford has less than 600 F150 SuperCrews available.
I think Ram is doing fine with 23% increase in November over last year.
Ford F-150: 844
Chevy Silverado 1500: 682
Silverado 1500 hybrid: 4
GMC Sierra 1500: 160
Sierra 1500 hybrid: 1
Dodge Ram 1500: 201
And, just for kicks:
Nissan Titan: 97
Toyota Tundra: 206.
Does seem like Chevy/GMC have an awful lot of inventory, for something that's supposed to be replaced soon.
As usual is appears GM has to much inventory. According to cars.com there are 57,812 Malibus at dealerships and the Malibu sold 10,227 in November vs the Camry which has 46,569 Camry+Hybrid and 28,765 Camrys sold. Ford only has about 15k Fusions but I don't think inventory is ramped up yet. Honda has 36,817 Accords at dealers with 26,242 selling in November.
GM has 6,161 Regals at dealers and only sold 1,101 in November. Damn near 6 months worth of inventory.
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It seems to me the Leather or what ever material was used for GM leather seating during the 90's to mid'00 often cracked or ripped. The front leather seats in my FIL's 95 tahoe are completely ripped and ragged. A buddy of mine has an '06 GMC Sierra 2500 duramax (sweet truck) but the leather sucks. He only has about 70k on it and the leather is all cracked and ripped on the drivers seat and it looks horrible
I remember the Park Ave my dad inherited from my grandpa having ripped leather on the drivers seat before 100k too.
So far the leather seats in my Expedition hasn't ripped yet. It has some creases and wear marks, but I don't think it will be ripping anytime soon. Though I do have a small tear in the middle row seat from the dog. Oh well, not a big deal and I could care less.
On a serious note it wasn't anything all that exciting. It just didn't seem to age very well, and probably wasn't taken care of very well over the years. I haven't been all that religious about putting leather conditioner on it, so I'm partly to blame. But, even when I first got the car, the leather on the seat seemed a bit worn. It got a crack in it, the crack got bigger, and then turned into a rip. I was going to try just sewing it back up, but before I got to it the rip just got bigger. Also, while the car only had 56,000 miles on it when I bought it, I have a feeling the previous owner was a bit, umm, Kirstie-Allen-ish (and not like how she was on Star Trek II or Cheers!) So I think that took its toll on the car (and might explain why I've needed some suspension work, too! :surprise: )
I'm actually a bit disappointed in it, because the leather feels a bit thin. The only reference point I really have for leather, though is my 1979 5th Ave, which feels like it has much thicker, higher-quality leather.
I'll probably take it to an upholstery shop at some point and see if they can patch it, and just put a towel over it for the time being.
I use a leather cleaner/conditioner twice a year.
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You need to be careful. A parked rocking Park Ave is likely to result in someone calling 911 to report a stroke, heart attack, seizure, or some other kind of medical emergency;)
On a serious note it wasn't anything all that exciting. It just didn't seem to age very well, and probably wasn't taken care of very well over the years. I haven't been all that religious about putting leather conditioner on it, so I'm partly to blame.
That pretty much describes what I've seen. When I was looking at used Suburbans a while back, many with leather, had a drivers seat that like crap by 50k miles and was partially why I bought one with cloth.
No question, but I've had decent luck with avoiding rips from normal wear and tear on Fords. Not that I have a lot of experience, I've only had two cars with leather.
I wonder with GM if it doesn't partially have something to due with the seat padding. Seems cars like the park ave and trucks have thick padded seats, maybe that causes the leather to be flexed more making it more likely to crease, crack, and eventually tear.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Seat padding + thin leather makes sense. Some of the worst issues I have seen are early 90s Lexus and Acura that had any sun or harsh weather exposure. Crack, tear, even the steering wheels would go.
Yeah, I've noticed that when riding in a MB. I can't complain about the seating material in my Expedition, I don't expect or really want it to be overly soft or luxurious. I prefer it to be able to handle kids and a big dog which it does a good job.
After 5 years and 112k miles of abuse, it's held up well.