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When you come back from a trip of > 15 mins. Park in your driveway (hopefully on a level surface) and put a cardboard under the radiator/ engine area. Let the engine idle for a few minutes. Look for puddles. What this will do is check to see if there is any leak in the system after the thermostat has opened up and the engine is warm. It might be something as silly as a loose upper hose.
BTW, the dealers always say that, and they want you to come back for more service when the problem repeats.
Also, saw the NJ/Colorado game. Sorry they lost... but it was a good run. Their goalie was really having a good day. Maybe next year.
Good luck.
I'm new to this board, and I've read the messages on this topic back until February, so forgive me if this question was discussed before then.
On my family's 1998 EB 2WD V6, we've been experiencing hesitation problems lately. It first occurred a few weeks ago, when the car would jerk and hesitate when I tried to accelerate when going 50+mph.
I took the car into service and they said that this problem was addressed in a service bulletin, and they recoded the computer to fix the problem.
Well, things were good for awhile, but then we found the same problem again, as well as the same hesitation now at idling. When these hesistations occurr at idling, the tach needle dips to around 500rpm.
The dealer on the second visit couldn't find any codes on the computer to fix, and these problems only occur after driving the car for awhile. anybody else experience this problem? Thanks for any help!
BTW, the explorer is confined to the garage for awhile, since it has 35,930 miles on it.
I would also try a different gas station. And I would not let the gauga go below 1/4 tank for a while. My explorer runs best with Mobil 87 octane. I've tried Exxon and Ammoco and they are ok as well. My truck runs worst with Getty, Gulf and Texaco.
Good luck
Tom
Also, the NHTSA website for crash test results (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/ncap/), indicates that Expedition is the only SUV that has ever received double five star crash ratings. The new Tahoe scored only three stars for the driver. The Sequoia hasn't been rated yet by NHTSA, but the Tundra on which it is based also scored only three stars...the Sequoia being heavier but with a common front frame design could be worse. I don't know why Ford hasn't used this in their advertising, but I have seen it on the window stickers of new Expeditions.
check out the ratings by the insurance institute for highway safety. the f-150 crumpled up like a paper airplane and the tundra was rock solid.
it's all a matter of agendas and viewpoints.
ace
Gotta just hope those airbags work!
1. Probably did nothing bad to your engine, but if the cap fell off its perch and hit the fan and richochet all over the engine, you might have lost your brakes, power steering, or worse on a highway and lost control.
2. Go on the assumption that the dealer drones just dont care. Check over the fluid levels before you leave the dealership. Check the oil dipstick. Check the things they are supposed to touch. Did they put on all the lug nuts back on the wheels? I once had Ford dealer flush my radiator. They forgot to refill it with fresh fluid and water... they just drained it and replaced the caps. It was a good thing I checked before I drove off, or else I would have ruined the engine.
I also had a different Ford dealer that left off 2 lug nuts on one of my wheels after a tire rotation.
Good luck
Tom
1. You held down the gas pedal down while turning the key and flooded the chamber.
2. Fuel pump can't get any gas into the engine because the fuel filter is clogged or the vehicle has less than a quarter tank and is parked nose down.
3. Electronic ignition box - distributor module- gets hot and malfunctions.. When it cools down , it works fine... especially on short trips to the dealer, but on long camping trips, you are afraid to shut it off when you get gas because it may not restart.
4. Spark plug wires are worn. Should have been replaced already, so may not apply to you.
5. Fuel injectors are clogged. Easy fix.. Buy some Gumout fuel injector cleaner and dump it in the gas tank.
6. One or more of the Oxygen sensors is bad.
7. Computer module.. usually the ECM is malfunctioning.
Maybe you can leave it at the dealer overnight and have them try to start it the next day... maybe then they can duplicate the problem.
Good luck
i'll bet it only occurs on the first startup of the day. hence, the dealer was unable to duplicate. if so, next time park the truck at the dealer (or service center) the night before and tell them to not bother with service if it doesn't occur.
a lot can be determined if the conditions are the same when problem occurs. starting problems can be very difficult to diagnose.
ace
It sounds like it might be either electrical (ECM) or your fuel injectors. If you drive a lot of short hops with it, then you wet soak the injectors and they develop a residue. Have you tried Gumout or Techron gas treatment? This may help and is really a cheap solution ($10). Just put it in with the tank half full (10 gals) rather than full tank.
If you have not had your spark plug wires and plugs replaced, this could also be the problem. Clogged plugs perform worse when hot. I would also replace the PCV. ($2)
Good luck and please let us know how this advice works out for you.
Before dumping any money on diagnostics, I changed the plugs and PCV valve. World of difference. Idle is smooth now. You may want to make this your first shot.
This went on (and got worse and worse) for a period of 2 months or so (summer)-- never knew if I was going to get back from lunch or late afternoon errands-- it was ridiculous and VERY frustrating. Ford (when they finally duplicated the problem) told me it was PROBABLY the O2 sensors-- which would involve @ $1000 cost to TRY and fix (no longer under warranty, of course.) After 2 lunchtime tows to Ford, the third time I had it towed to my local old-time mechanic. He replaced the fuel relay switch at a nominal cost-- have never had this problem since.
Still have the XLT beast (@180k now)-- reading your post brought back all the frustrating memories-- hope this info helps!
At the time, i just assumed it was just frozen water in the gas line as i have not had any problems in warmer weather at sea level. The plugs are new, tank was full and level, etc.
Appreciate all the comments here as they suggest another problem. I think i will try gumout before paying for ECM service.
Chevron Techron and 3M Fuel injector cleaners are good as well. Just dont use them more often than every 3 months.
"Mr. Johnson said the [House Commerce] committee also has evidence that at least two other -- the 16-inch Wilderness HT and 15-inch FR 480 -- actually have higher tread-separation claims rates than the Wilderness ATs that are being replaced by Ford. The FR 480s, which Mr. Johnson said were used in the early-to-mid-1990s on Ford Explorers, have a claims rate of 43 per million, Mr. Johnson said, while the HTs, which have been used since 1995 on Ford F-150 pickups, have a claims rate of 49 per million."
Hopefully there will be a further recall soon and we can all get Michelins or Goodyears.
I feel bad for Firestone - I don't think they are the problem here. Thanks, John
you seem to know a lot about explorers and you also seem to be quite satisfied with them (since you own one by yourself...) - could you give me some advice on what to check when buying a 97 or newer explorer with the 4.0 SOHC engine (the OHC is too weak and we don´t have the V8 over here) ? I´m looking at cars with less than 70000 miles on them - should I expect any larger maintenance problem coming up soon ? which maintenance / part exchanges should have already been done ? are there any special parts to check extra thoroughly ?
would be happy for response ...
I owned a 1994 Explorer (with the v6 OHV) and I now own a 2000 Explorer with the v6 SOHC. First, let me say that the 1997-1999 versions of the SOHC had many problems.. to the point that Ford had to extend the warranty to 72,000 miles on the cam tensioners (there are 3 in the SOHC - two in the front and one in the back) and the lower manifold gasket. To change the timing chains on the SOHC, you have to lift the engine out of the vehicle.. which is very involved and can get very expensive if not under warranty. The OHV engine, although less powerful (especially if you are towing) still got me several speeding tickets. The OHV was much simpler engine and easier to service. That's my two cents.
What I would look at when evaluating ANY vehicle: These are easy to do without getting really dirty:
1. If you are buying it from an invdividual, ask to see the repair and service history. If the person really took care of it, they would save all of the repair work receipts. That's the kind of person to buy a used car from.. somebody who cared to change the oil every 3,000 miles and kept good records of any problems. When was the radiator last flushed? Hoses changed? Spark plugs and wires changed? Air cleaner changed?
2. look at the fluid levels and smell them (especially the tranny fluid) to check for a burning smell. Are the fluids uniform in color with no oil floating in the top of the radiator reservoir bottle (this can mean tranny fluid has breached the barrier and is in your radiator, and consequently, coolant is in your tranny).
3. Are there any puddles under where the vehicle is parked?
4. Check the air cleaner element. If it is relatively clean, the owner cared to change it and probably did not drive it in sand or mud which can get into the lubrication points in the suspension as well as rot the brakes, whcih are not so easy to see.
5. Is there a tow hitch on the vehicle? If so, how heavy a trailer was towed, and was it towing a boat? Many times when you have to launch a boat, the rear wheels can go into the drink. The salt water can rust the chassis as well as the brakes if not washed off immediately. Also a very heay trailer can put a strain on the tranny. The max load on most explorers is about 2500 pounds trailer, and 300 pounds at the tongue, unless there were modifications done.
6. Check the interior and try to decide that the odometer reading makes sense based on the condition of the drivers seat and carpet.
6. Look for muck in the tailpipe. This can be a indicator of a gasket leak allowing coolant or oil through the system.
7. Get in the car and before starting the engine look around to see that everything looks uniform ... no new seats or new panels.
8. Before starting the engine, push down on the brake pedal until the master cylinder is discharged. The with your foot on the brake pedal (without touching the gas pedal), turn on the engine. If the brake booster comes alive under your foot as the engine is started and returns to normal function quickly, then the booster and master cylinder are in good shape.
9. Drive the car with the windows open and the radio off. Listen for noises from the engine, brakes and suspension. When you step on the brakes firmly, does it stop evenly without a shudder or pedal vibration (could be warped rotors). Does the engine choke a bit when you get heavy on the gas and does it hesistate on launch after a stop light?
10. Lastly, talk with the owner and ask him right out why he is selling the car and was it ever in an accident, stolen or submerged in water (many cars are sold after a flood storm). Be wary of guys that want cash that day or are not too knowledgeable about the vehicle. They may have just bought it, found out that there is something wrong and want to unload it.
Good luck!
This is really GREAT help...
Just let me bother you with one more question : does this mean you would totally stay away from 97 to 99 SOHC models (damn - that was exactly what I was looking at !) ?
Hope this helps.
I just wanted to post the solution the ford dealer found for my 98 explorer's hesitation problems. First, thanks to mazman1 and swschrad for their responses--I passed on your suggestions to the service shop.
Turns out that one of the ignition wires would generate static charge after heating up (after driving awhile) which caused one of the spark plugs to misfire. That caused the engine to run roughly after heating up. Go fig, huh.
Thanks again and good luck to all,
jason
You might also want to check the air filter and MAF sensor for a clog of dirt.
I just noticed a problem with my AC. When at idle (stop sign or light), the AC system cycles on and off. I can hear it kick in/out and can feel the air go between cold and warm. The fan runs continuously. When at speed (1000+ rpm), the system runs continuously and correctly. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?? If the coolant level gets low, would something like this happen before the system shuts down completely??
Any help would be great!
Alright swapped in a new filter and cleaned the MAF. Swapped in a new fuel filter as well. Picked up the vehicle from the dealer for the second time in as many weeks, they still can find a problem, they are putting a call into ford to run a check to see if anyone reported similar problems and what they turned out to be before they start changing things for no reason. The only way I can somewhat replicate what happens while driving is to put it in park and hold the engine at 1000 rpms, when I do this, you can sort of hear the engine drop a bit and shake a bit, when this happens, I pull my foot off the accelorator and the rpms drop almost to zero and come back up to idle, sometimes it stalls. One of the techs tried telling me it was normal......hello??? Stalling is normal?? I'm at a little over 1/4 tank right now, I put some dry gas and fuel injector cleaner in before I left work. Any info??? One guy told me he had a very similar problem with his 97 sohc sport...turned out there was a tsb to replace the throttle body. I'm assuming that if this were a problem back then, my newer vehicle would have already had this taken care of in manufacturing.
The TSB on the trottle body was to fix sticky throttles in the 1997 model. I dont think that is your problem. Next put gas in your tank from a differnt gas station, and not "gaseteria" brand.. my Explorer likes Mobil and Exxon and Amoco.. but not Getty and Gulf or the cheap stuff.
This sounds bogus to me. I don't see any connection. Anyone have information re this matter?
Thanks
I had read somewhere that Ford was going to temporarily stop production of Explorers to free up tires for their recall.
The dealer is not lying...the Louisville plant is currently idle.
Thanks for your reply.
E
Thanks Hugh