Land Rover Discovery and Discovery II

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  • lvstenislvstenis Member Posts: 7
    im just wondering if a dvd can be install in the discovery? if it is possible, any idea who can install it?
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    Land Rover will have a DVD for the Discovery available soon.
  • lvstenislvstenis Member Posts: 7
    im just wondering if a dvd can be install in the discovery? if it is possible, any idea who can install it?
  • rp_fencerrp_fencer Member Posts: 13
    I have a 00 LR DII. Installed a Farenheit system DVD and 5.6 monitor which I bought from Fry's electronics here in San Jose, CA.

    Cost is $350 (monitor and dvd player).. installation is $250.00 at the same store. It is still working fine but according to the technician he woldn't install it if I have a moon roof. No space to put it for I have the rear aircon option.

    Happy Rovering
  • lvstenislvstenis Member Posts: 7
    im just wondering if a dvd can be install in the discovery? if it is possible, any idea who can install it?
  • lvstenislvstenis Member Posts: 7
    i found special vehicle concept shop and they customized range rovers/land rovers. i called them and they said they can install one for 3,500. they will put a 10'' screen by the roof. you should check out their web site www.specialvehicles.com
  • jake3895jake3895 Member Posts: 7
    What's the best thing to use to clean the dashboard and the leather seats?
    Does anyone use a commercial car wash or do you do it by hand?
  • denver8denver8 Member Posts: 42
    Thanks Nanuq, expert1, and wasko for your information and advice on changing the brake pads. I changed all four last weekend and it went very smooth. It actually took longer to put the truck on jack stands and take off the wheels than change out the pads. I bought replacement pads from the dealer and they came with new pins and anti-rattle springs. I try and do some of the easy work on my truck like oil changes and stuff so this will be added as another do-it-myself project. Kind of makes me feel good knowing that I am not completely helpless. My wife and I tiled the bathroom last month and that was way more involved than the brake pads. Anyway, to keep Lord Lucas happy I have an appointment wed at the dealer to get the sticking clutch pedal fixed. So I save some money on brakes and plow it into the clutch. Pretty good compromise. 106,000 miles and loving every minute of it.

    Have a good holiday everyone.
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    Great job, congratulations! Now about that clutch pedal......

    (evil grin) Happy Rovering! -Bob
  • expert1expert1 Member Posts: 133
    If you had such success with your brakes it is time now to work on the clutch. Sticking? Does LR use a slave cylinder (hydraulic) or is it mechanical (rod or cable)? They are all just as easy to fix if you have a little time on your hands. Two hours out and about fours in should be about right. The hardest thing is the cleanup and getting it ready for installation. Hopefully LR won't ding ya too bad for a clutch, pressure plate and throwout bearing. The flywheel can be resurfaced, the hydraulics rebuilt and you are back in business. My Nissian truck, (same clutch as a 1/2 ton Chevy), cost less than $100 for the whole job. Like I said before, most of the labor is the cleanup. Hopefully parts aren't too bad. Being a LR newbie I still haven't seen the parts sticker shock yet. Good Luck.
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    Wahoo, soon we'll have your parts all over your garage!

    Are you sure it's not just a worn bush in the clutch pedal pivot? Does the clutch actually slip under hard use? Please describe... *IF* you really want us to tear your truck apart vicariously.

    :) -Bob
  • cterrescterres Member Posts: 4
    Does Land Rover plan to add "memory" seats to the DII in 2002 or 2003? Seems like most other SUV's in this price range have them.
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    The Discovery will not have memory seats in 02 or 03.
  • denver8denver8 Member Posts: 42
    It is a hydraulic system. There is a leak somewhere so some of the fluid is leaking out. The clutch pedal was going to the floor and then staying there. I would have to flip it back up with my toe. As far as shifting gears everything works fine. At first I thought the spring on the pedal was wearing out, but I checked my fluid resivoir and it was empty. The funny thing is that I put fluid in on Friday and just this morning the clutch pedal is rebounding like normal. I am guessing there was some air in the system. Anyway I don't think the fluid should disappear like that. I wil still take it in and have it checked out. The good thing is that the dealers give out free rental cars so it is not a hassle.
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    You may be in luck! Is this the original clutch still in use, or has it been done before?

    If it's got some life left in it, you're just looking at a seal... probably in the master cylinder. Simple rebuild or replacement job.

    However, if it's the original clutch then you're probably down to very little clutch material left (and potentially a tired throwout bearing). So for peace of mind you can have them refit a clutch and do the seal while it's apart.

    Orrrrrrrr... (evil grin) you can tackle it yourself. Again, this is one of those not-too-hard jobs where you'll have a ton of satisfaction when you get her going again.

    Good luck, -Bob
  • dunedriverdunedriver Member Posts: 6
    Hello to everyone. Have owned Disco's since 92 (2 while working in Saudi Arabia.. love cruising the dunes on 11 psi!). Drove my 97 SE across the country to San Diego recently, noticed MY FIRST leak, took it into the local dealer: it's leaking from the head, rear main & transfer case! Almost $4K to repair (it went out of warranty in June!). Despite felling cursed, I'm thinking of buying a certified again.. SII SE w/ 9K, but the down payment will be painful. Any comments, recomendations... or sympathy?

    Doug
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    Welcome to Town Hall, dunedriver! You have my sympathies and certainly others will provide recommendations.

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  • expert1expert1 Member Posts: 133
    Are you sure you aren't just a Exploder or Durango owner just trying to give Discos a bad name? I can't believe that this rig could produce so many leaks out of so many unrelated components in so few miles. (and don't you mean leaks plural?) $4 grand to repair? A rear main can be repaired without even pulling the engine. (Remember, it is just a GM engine after all.)Transfer case seals can't be that hard to replace and head gaskets are a snap if no head work is involved. A days labor at $65.00-$80.00 per hour, plus parts for everything? A couple of seals and a head gasket can't be too bad for a old Chevy. I can't imagine the whole job over a grand.
  • brimcrowbrimcrow Member Posts: 4
    Just how important is ACE on the Disco II? It seems they only offer it on the top of the line and then as an option.

    Thanks

    Brim Crow
  • dmamsa1dmamsa1 Member Posts: 1
    I am looking to buy a used 96 DI SE from a private party. Its has rarely been offroad and well kept. Wanted to find out what shoould I look out for..carfax report came out clean.

    I am used to the Japanes brands and now I want a real SUV. The person is asking US$12,500...what price range should I be looking at.

    thanks you

    awaiting your feedback
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    Most important... beginning with model year '96 the Disco has sporadic problems with exhaust valves "sticking" due to carbon/gum buildup on the valve stems. The OBDII system (on-board diagnostics) will store "codes" produced by the engine control units... those codes will tell a technician if yours is showing symptoms. These symptoms include extended periods of misfiring (over 30 seconds) among other things. Fixing the valves is EXPENSIVE. Has it already been done? Are there stored codes showing it is coming?

    Other potential problems with the truck are minor, if you're willing to deal with a drop of oil here and there, and regular maintenance. These trucks thrive on GOOD maintenance and hard use. You'll go through a lot of lubricants to keep it happy, but it will reward you with excellent life and it WILL scare the pants off you the first time you take it someplace spooky. These trucks are mountain goats.

    Look twice, think hard before you jump in. It's for good reason that people say having a Rover is a love/hate thing.

    Regards, -Bob
  • denver8denver8 Member Posts: 42
    It is just a leak in the slave cylinder so I am out $238. Very happy. The dealer did say I am leaking Coolant from the head gasket and they want $1,300 to fix that. I told them to pound sand. I don't consider it a leak until it stains the floor. Thanks for all the advice.
  • kbowenkbowen Member Posts: 58
    Been meaning to follow up as to whether you were able to see the meteor shower you were looking forward to. Down here it was foggy as hell and there are no mountains, or even hills, to climb above it. A high-rise building will do, but then there is too much city light.

    In any event, we drove around for several hours and would find patches where the sky could be seen. The show even under these conditions was spectacular, one going off like a flash bulb and lighting up the whole area. As I watched this display, I couldn't help but visualize what the show would be like up in the San Juan mountains, say around Silverton, CO where the sky is absolutely pitch black (without a moon) and the stars look like crystal clear jewels, not smudgy spots like here. I imagine where you are it would be the same. And the San Juans and the surrounding areas are the primary reason I went with the DII because my Jeep Grand couldn't handle it. There is hardly a day that goes by that I not thinking of this summer when we return for our first Rover offroad trip to see what it can do. Anyway, what was the view like where you were?
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    It was partially clear and cold here, there was a small patch of sky showing where the meteors were, but it takes a stout soul to stand around for long in those temps to look for a meteor. :) We DID have a spectacular display of the aurora a few days later however, start reds and yellows. I heard it was visible even down there in the States.

    About the clutch... great news! And you're probably right about the coolant leak... unless it's getting into the cylinder?? If you do decide to have it fixed, take it to any competent mechanic. Chances are they'll do it lots cheaper. This isn't a rocket-science engine, just a good old simple sturdy V8.

    MAKE SURE if you do have it done, that he gets a *GOOD* set of gaskets for reassembly. My mechanic went thru 7 (SEVEN!) sets looking for a pair of non-damaged head gaskets.

    Best luck, -Bob
  • expert1expert1 Member Posts: 133
    Wow!! What does Rover think it has under the hood? Some exotic hybrid or do they think us Rover buyers are just made of money? I hope they give a good reach-around for that kind of money. It sounds like dunedrivers' story of his $4000 leaks. Rover repair must be real profitable. Even though we all know they are just repairing a old Buick. Damaged head gaskets have never been a problem with me. Only the damaged mechanic installing them.
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    When they did my valves Kent went thru seven sets of gaskets before he found two head gaskets in a set that weren't kinked across their face... they would have failed. He finally called Solihull and had them MAKE him a set!

    Yikes.
  • oceandwelleroceandweller Member Posts: 58
    Wow, it has been a while since I was here! My b-day was the 1st....it's all been a haze since! Anyway, I went with stock exhaust, hell it lasted the first five years...so I figured why not! The vibrations are not good ones...(damn)! LOL...they are under the center of the vehicle and never seem to occur at any specific time, but I am still hearing crickets as I drive, especially if I turn ever so slightly towards the left. Hmmm...what to do....I love her still....oh yeah..btw, I saw a DI, similar to mine...java black...but probably an early 96 with Alaska plates!! I stared at her for a while...but first I didn't think you'd be in Troy, NY of all places and 2nd I could't remember what yours looks like...so..but hey...maybe it is a sign...time for me to head out! Talk to you soon, happy happy discoing! lk
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    Happy Birhday to yoooooou,
    Happy Birthday to yooooooooooouu...!!

    Crickets and vibration... sounds like your truck has some character?! She sounds like a keeper. I have things like that with mine, and it just makes her "mine". Would I rather not have them?? Dunno..

    A black Alaskan '96 in NY?? Wow, that's a coincidence... I was IN NY!!!!! (grin) NOT REALLY. I was here in the arctic wilderness, enjoying every minute. My little honey is silver (so the paint gouges don't show) with a lovely patina of brush scratches down the sides, lifted with big ole tires and a happy sound to the exhaust. Can't miss Anuqa!

    You sure sound happy... it must be the combination of owning a Rover, and the Holiday Season. :) It works for me!

    Happy Holidays to all! -Bob
  • expert1expert1 Member Posts: 133
    Oceandweller, have you ever done a runout on your rotors? It sounds like either one of them is warped or the pistons on your calipers are not retracting far enough and one of your pads is talking to you. My van has that same problem with frontend noise. Does it go away when braking? The comments about exhaust leaks is kind of funny. It sounds like GMs' problem has not been solved by Rover or BMW. My Burb had the same problem with exhaust leaks. It kind of sounds like a ticking in the first phase of the leak and gains character over time. I had to have both exhaust manifolds surfaced and use gaskets on my last exhaust fix. Luckily my heads didn't also need surfacing. Most motors and trannies and their accessories are now gasketless. This works great when they are brand new, but gaskets are the norm when replacing the waterpumps, thermostat covers etc. down the line.
  • jetcitygaljetcitygal Member Posts: 3
    I just purchased a 2001 DiscoII SE 4 weeks ago and it has been back at the dealership twice for a leak in the roof somwhere. They've had my car for over 2 weeks total. They've replaced the front sun roof assembly (the first time) and have resealed my Windshield, replaced the sunroof and headliner and still cannot find the source.

    Anyone else having this problem?
  • expert1expert1 Member Posts: 133
    That I decided on the SD. No sunroof leaks, no CD player skips (mounted under the front seat where all the dust and dirt goes) and ACE hydraulics and air bag leaks. What I really got was a tight, responsive, hauler, that as of yet has never been back to the dealer in 18 months. And built on a Monday to boot.
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    These beasts are notorious for leaking alpine windows. Where exactly did you notice the moisture in your headliner? Water will come in the WEIRDEST places.

    For what it's worth, I give the rubber seals around my windshield, rear window, side windows and alpine windows a good soaking in Armor-all a couple times every summer.

    -Bob
  • jetcitygaljetcitygal Member Posts: 3
    The first time I noticed was when water started dripping from my rear view mirror (1 week after purchasing the vehicle). The headliner was soaked in the corner by the passenger window and dripping from there as well.

    It happened again 1 week later and they've had my DII ever since.

    I've been driving a loaner for over a week now.
  • awseymourawseymour Member Posts: 18
    I had a leak last winter, again dripping down the rear view mirror and just missing the stereo. not a bad one just a small anount. The dealer adjusted the sun roof and no problems since. The glass has several screw adjustments all around its frame and that did the trick.
    Good luck.
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    Sounds like it may be the sunroof. That, or possibly the seal around the windshield? It's great that they're giving you a Rover loaner... my shop here does that, letting me drive spanking new DIIs when I take Anuqa in... trying to get me to fall in love with the new Series II???? Not a chance... but I sure appreciate the service!

    Rovers: once fixed they STAY fixed. They're probably waiting on a new seal for the sunroof or something.

    Good luck, and happy weekend! -Bob
  • breckinbreckin Member Posts: 2
    In response to Brim Crow's question on ACE, I've had a 2000 ACE model for almost a year now, and feel the high performance package was worth every penny (er, about 300,000 pennies actually).
    It has extremely confident handling and cornering ability for a vehicle of this height and weight. I've driven the non-ace version a few times during service visits as a loaner, and sorely missed ACE. Although ACE certainly isn't a neccesity in order to get decent road manners out of a disco, it still makes a big difference if your primary purpose is using it as a road vehicle. Off-road, your probably better off in a non-ace disco given the tire/wheel combo on the high performance package.
    The only downside is that the system tends to whine and groan a bit when in use, which can take a little getting used to. When I first test drove an ACE car I thought something was wrong with it. The dealer assured me it was normal, although I had read on a message board awhile back that some ACE cars didn't make this noise when cornering. All I can say is I've been in 4 ACE cars, and they all made slight whining sounds in cornering or g-loads (I've been told its the sound of the hydraulic pump under heavy psi). I haven't heard of any major repair problems with the hydraulics, but I figure they have to come sooner or later, given the large number of moving parts and active systems involved - all I can say is that I'm not planning to keep my DII beyond the warranty period for fear that if the system needed a major overhaul it would be quite expensive. This is all just based on assumptions though . . . anyone have any good/bad experiences to share concerning ACE???
  • kwamedogkwamedog Member Posts: 35
    Took me 4 and a half months to get a tube of touch up paint for my baby. God for bid anything serious should go wrong. Has anybody had any trouble getting parts?
  • dunedriverdunedriver Member Posts: 6
    My 97 SE has 51K. I just drove it 2950 miles in 4 days. Actually read your comments to the service guy at the dealer (I believe the only one in the San Diego Area)... About $900 in parts for job, note head gasket includes valve seals and exhaust manifold gasket in addition to head gasket, plus "cooler line" seals. He told me, with straight face (I think, 'cause it was over the phone): Labor for rear main, head, and transfer box is 29 hours @ $90.00 per hour! BTW, the only other make of car that they sell at this dealer: Porche. But they maintain that their LR mechanics are among the best trained in the USA with annual trips to Solihull, etc.
  • brimcrowbrimcrow Member Posts: 4
    Thanks to breckin for the response.

    Brim Crow
  • schwarzstevenschwarzsteven Member Posts: 16
    kwamedog - let me guess, it was java black touch up? Also took me 4.5 months. The worst part is the scratch started to rust from not being covered up for so long. Oh well, its only the roof.
  • kbowenkbowen Member Posts: 58
    Does it really take a specially trained $90.00 an hour mechanic to replace a head gasket on what is essentially a V-8 GM Buick engine? As for the ACE Q, the only problem I have had, but it occurred early at 2K, was the yellow warning light kept coming on. It turned out to be a hydraulic leak in the pump (failed seal again) and it was fixed quickly under warranty. I too am leasing and don't plan to purchase because of repair cost fear of systems like this. To the scratch prone, if deep and unable to repair for a while, I wax the area heavily to prevent rusting until I can get to it. For superficial or medium size scratches, there is a great product I got from a TV ad called "Scratch Out". It works wonders; rub it on, buff it out and the scratch is GONE. I don't know if it is available in stores.
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    The retailer charges $90 an hour, the technician gets a fraction of that. The rest goes toward all the equipt. in the shop, paying for the building, paying for payroll, etc. It costs several million dollars to open a car dealership, and running one has a lot of expenses that most don't consider when purchasing or getting service on their vehicles.
  • expert1expert1 Member Posts: 133
    Thanks for the clarification. Maybe $2500 of the $4000 is for sending the mechanic to Solihull. I still can't believe that they need a annual trip to learn how to repair a 1960s' Buick motor. Of course you have to replace the exhaust gaskets and while the head is off you might as well do the little "umbrellas" to, but 29 hours and $90.00 per hour? I hope that includes a wash and wax.
  • kbowenkbowen Member Posts: 58
    My dealership includes a wash with all service visits. How nice, with the only down side being that when stuff is stolen from inside it, they blame it on the porters and suggest maybe I should request that it NOT be washed. Hmmmmmmmmm, good way to save money on the washes and a little extra on whatever is gotten.
  • norbnnorbn Member Posts: 70
    OK enough of this misconception that the engine in the Disco is some vintage 1960's era engine. It may have been based on the old Buick V8 but I'm sure you couldn't just go to a junk yard and replace parts from an old Buick and replace it in your Disco. I'm sure Land Rover/BMW/Ford has done something to the engine. That said, even my Mercedes Benz dealer doesn't charge that much to do those same services.
  • geejaygeejay Member Posts: 2
    Hi Folks, I've got a 2000 Disco S2 that was a demo with about 4k miles on it when I bought it. 2 Years and 48.5k miles later I'm still digging it. I live in Colorado, but time doesn't permit getting out and doing much 4WD. The question is, I think I'm going to keep this truck for a while, so I wonder if I need to buy 50k more warranty, or just go for it? It'll cost me just under $2k. Is it worth it? I've not had any serious problems, other that a radiator leak. They ended up replacing it. Any thoughts from other Disco owners would be appreciated. Thanks. George
  • oceandwelleroceandweller Member Posts: 58
    expert1: Thank you for the input! It's appreciated.
    :)

    nanuq: Thank you, for the happy bday...guess what it finally snowed!!!!!! not much, only a few inches if that, and I haven't had time to go offroad :( But, I'm sure there will be more snow for playtime soon...cheers to our rovers! Take care, and enjoy the wilderness..
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    Ahhhhhh, you must have said the right words because we got more snow overnight too... maybe 4 inches, just enough that when you go BLASTING down long straight backroads the turbulence makes gorgeous big snow clouds behind you.

    Of course I'm just GUESSING about this, because I'd never ever drive over the posted speed limit. (wink)

    I drove 120 miles this weekend on roads covered in ice and hard-packed snow... even at 70mph there wasn't one wiggle or misstep. She started right up after sitting out at -10F all night, was warm in a few minutes and drove like a champ all the way home. Of course she was slug-g-gish till the lubes warmed up, but she's the perfect winter truck!

    Here's a little fun thing I do in winter: tie a black cord onto the grille dead center then tie a nice big red bow to that black cord. It's Christmas-y and people give you a big grin and thumbs-up... and the next time you see them, THEY have one too.

    Spread the cheer! -Bob
  • dunedriverdunedriver Member Posts: 6
    Covered like a new car warranty (i.e., does not include "consumables") for up to 100K for only $2000? Do it. Any doubts, please refer to my story a few messages up.

    Make no mistake, I love these vehicles... it's just that I feel a lot better knowing that they are under warranty.

    Doug
  • expert1expert1 Member Posts: 133
    Going to take my new DII up to Donner Lake and see what she can do. Seven feet has fallen in the last two weeks so there should be plenty on the ground to test this baby out.
    Hey, a guy at work has said that LR was rated at the bottom in his four wheel drive magazine for off road duties. What gives?? It stated that they are highway four wheelers and should never be taken off the pavement. A little Chevy, Ford bias here?
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