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Its pretty much impossible to control the solutions developed by others - individuals, corporations, governments. But we can all do something. Everyone's griping about the situation we find ourselves in and the direction everything is headed. But let's face it: we as a country have been consuming more oil than we need to for a long time, and its catching up to us. Our vehicle choices have everything to do with it.
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The guy did say, that if I wanted to take a Cayman home, I'd need to bring a bag of money, though...
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I'm not sure how the Japanese can over charge us on fuel efficient cars since we have choices. The fact that so many people keep buying Japanese indicates that they feel that represents the better value. Apparently the domestics are the ones over charging.
In the case of ethanol, we have folks that feel it is OK to run up the price because the money stays in the USA.
So how much would a gallon of ethanol be without all the subsidies?
You'll never know.. It wouldn't be available without the subsidies..
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Also, I believe that OPEC is pumping at pretty close to capacity. I know that last winter they decided to reduce production to around 27 mbpd (million barrels per day) but that's still considerably more than they were producing in 2001 when gas prices were $1/gallon. Do they really have an obligation to meet the world's ever growing demand?
The high price of oil is based on the believe that with such a slim margin the slightest disruption in supply will have a large impact on price. So the options traders see this as a wager with a bigger upside potential than downside. Basically even though the price of oil should probably be $50/barrel the traders see a better chance of $90 oil than $40 oil and they bet accordingly.
It's attitudes like that that let them overcharge us in the first place and still sleep at night without feeling guilt.
What makes you any better than them? :mad:
That is not happening.
Some remote natural gas can now be economically converted through a GTL process into an ultra-clean fuel for diesel engines. At times this fuel can be economically blended with conventional petroleum diesel fuels to: extend California's diesel fuel supplies, and improve refinery capacity of cleaner diesel fuels.
http://www.energy.ca.gov/afvs/synthetic_diesel.html
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There are those in the Midwest that consider ethanol a boondoggle to make a few people wealthy. I guess we know your position.
At what cost?
When we end up doing more harm to our own environment and economy than we would by importing or using a different alternative fuel, then it might be time to rethink our position.
In the long run how much is this ethanol policy going to cost us and how much oil is it going to save? With these numbers in hand the decision makers need to really ask themselves are we getting the most bang for our buck? I'm an EV proponent but realize one of their biggest deficiencies is the high price of batteries. If the government is going to embark on programs that don't make financial sense then why don't they choose to heavily subsidize the battery manufacturers. I suspect there would be a lot more fuel savings per dollar spent. BTW, I think this would be a stupid thing for the government to do, just less stupid than throwing money at ethanol.
But if/when the proceeds are used to attack USA/allies or support terror, it's time for a big hammer to drop.
I suppose I would apply the same idea for the ethanol-producers too.
One solution might be for the United States to import more Brazilian ethanol to blend on East Coast, where transportation costs significantly raise the price of Midwest ethanol. That would, however, require the politically difficult step of ending the protective tariffs on Brazilian ethanol that now shelters the U.S. industry. It makes strategic sense to import environmentally friendly ethanol from a reliable friend like Brazil in our own hemisphere. After all, the United States doesn't tax imported crude oil, which pollutes and often comes from unstable suppliers.
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=44896
Our friends in Brazil are trying to get rid of ethanol plants. Are they not making any money?
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I was just there in January, and note that Ethanol costs a little less than gasoline does there. So they're not getting the premium for it that US distributors do.
Makes sense to sell it to the highest bidder, and that makes the US a likely buyer.
When I drove through the El Centro area two weeks ago I saw corn fields for the first time ever. This is where we get our lettuce and winter vegetables from in the USA. I am not ready to give up having salad to fill my gas tank.
Now, we have a crisis.. Do what you want with my fuel, but keep your hands off my tequila!!
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kirstie_h, "The Inconvenient Truth About Ethanol" #37, 31 May 2007 11:52 am
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I'm still indignant!! Just 7 weeks behind, is all..
Since you knew about it, have you been conserving the agave crops for the rest of us?
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I think Mexican farmers are planting corn where once fine crops of Agave grew is a result of the rising price we charge for corn as an export. So we are losing one of the few things that we once exported. I doubt we have cut our consumption of foreign oil by one barrel. So what does that do for our balance of trade?
When will people learn that alcohol is for drinking not driving. :shades:
At least if you run out of fuel you won't die of thirst.
I've got to believe that the only reason we export crops is because they are so heavily subsidized. So it's not entirely clear whether this is really good for our country. The government could decide to heavily subsidize any producer/manufacturer and magically it would appear these products can be made more cheaply here than in China et al. The reality is that the countries importing these artificially cheap products are only making a partial payment. The rest is being picked up by the US taxpayer. The subsidy for ethanol just makes an already convuluted system worse.
If we are using all our excess crops for fuel, what happens to the countries we were giving food to as aid? Do we now buy from other countries to maintain the level of aid? Like buying wheat from Russia to feed people in Africa. Is this ethanol business in reality costing us more than before? My guess would be YES! It is kind of a Robin Hood Program. Only they are not stealing from the king. They are taking our tax dollars and giving it to the folks in the Midwest, via ADM. Just more corporate welfare.
Other call that a "pipe dream".
The real solution is to eat less and excersize.
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Myra Saefong's Commodities Corner
Corn gobbles up crop land, then withers
Corn's use for ethanol promising, but soybeans, cotton rally instead
By Myra P. Saefong, MarketWatch
Last Update: 7:30 AM ET Jul 27, 2007
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Corn's wilting a bit these days.
Futures prices for corn this week dropped to their lowest level since October, a far cry from five months ago when prices climbed past $4 a bushel to their highest level in about nine years.
In an interesting twist, soybean and cotton prices have rallied to levels not seen since the middle of 2004 and wheat has climbed beyond its 1996 levels.
So what has happened to corn's prospects as a basic material in the U.S. ethanol production? Nothing really. It's just time to take a closer look.
High prices and demand for corn prompted farmers to plant more of the commodity. That took away land from other crops, and now corn plantings for this year are set to be their highest in more than 60 years.
The "massive increase in plantings of corn in the U.S. is a response to the price pressure, short-term, from ethanol-derived demand," said Ned Schmidt, editor of the Agri-Food Value View report.
As of March 1, corn growers planned to plant 90.5 million acres of corn in 2007, according to the annual Prospective Plantings report from the U.S. Department of Agriculture released on March 30. That figure is up 15% from 2006 and if realized, would be the highest acreage since 1944, it said.
'What was originally perceived to be the groundwork for a bull market in corn wound up creating bull markets in soybeans, cotton and partially in wheat.'
— Tom Fritz, New World Trading
"So many farmers planted corn in hopes of selling it for ethanol that we may end up with a glut of supply," said Kevin Kerr, editor of Global Resources Trader, a newsletter of MarketWatch, the publisher of this report.
The increase in intended acres for corn was partially offset by fewer expected acres of soybeans and cotton, the USDA said. Soybean producers expected to plant 67.1 million acres in the 2007 crop year, which would be the lowest planted area since 1996.
Analysts have said that in order for U.S. producers to meet projected demand for corn, 90 million acres of the commodity would have to be planted, according to Tom Fritz, a grain analyst and principle of New World Trading.
With the average planted corn acreage over the past 15 years at about 78 million acres, the market's dilemma was finding a source for all the extra acres needed, he said.
"The U.S. producer was able to get the needed corn acres by switching out of soybeans, wheat and cotton," said Fritz. "What was originally perceived to be the groundwork for a bull market in corn wound up creating bull markets in soybeans, cotton and partially in wheat."
Demand premise
Ethanol production came "into vogue" three years ago when energy prices were beginning to take off, said Fritz. And with corn "relatively low cost, private money came into the ethanol sector and plans for ethanol production literally exploded."
"Demand for corn for ethanol production was doubling, tripling -- almost overnight," he said.
But ethanol was only part of the story.