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Toyota Yaris Instrument Panel & Dashboard Problems
Toyota Yaris instrument panel, gauges
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From a purely anatomicaly-functional perspective, one eye movement (down) uses only one cranial nerve pathway. The two movements for the center IP use three pathways [down (same as before), rotate in (left eye), rotate out(right eye); if need be, I can specify the pathways AND actuating muscles, too].
Or, the short version: there is a damn good reason human factors engineers put critical gauges and heads-up-display data DIRECTLY in front of pilots. Namely, quicker read-and-response time.
BUT - my [non-permissible content removed] about that one annoying point aside (half of which probably derives out of spending 20 years driving cars with gauges in front of me), I really do like the aesthetics of the car quite well (as I noted earlier - I think the S sedan is quite an attractive little car; outside the IP [non-permissible content removed] with the reviewers, (1) the reviewers agree and (2) rate the overall driving experience from decent to outright great).
Perhaps the problem is I just ain't of the grand-scale-video-game generation (read "over 35") and therefore like my visual input controlled.
Which is probably a rather nice way of saying, relatively speaking, I'm old.
I drove a Honda Fit the other day and the lack of an engine temp gauge immediately removed that car from my list! An engine temp gauge is mandatory equipment and in 2006, one shouldn't have to add an aftermarket of such a basic necessity.
So one day, my car just about explodes. Cooling system failure and I cooked it. Problem? Warning light didn't come on. The tow driver just said, "never drive a car without an engine temp gauge."
Engine temp isn't about knowing what the actual temp is. It's about seeing it every day and seeing it in the same place every day. When you see the car start to run a little hotter, you know something's up. When it gets too hot, you know to pull over. It's a necessity and reason #1 I won't be buying the Fit.
So, Toyota, are you smarter than Honda? Hope so. Or maybe I can talk the dealer into crediting me for installation of a engine temp gauge.
As for you talking your local Toyota Dealer into installing an engine temp gauge at no cost, good luck.
First of all, you are lucky to even find one on a dealers lot. Second of all, there are probably ten people waiting to buy everyone that comes in a full MSRP. If you are looking for a buyer's market, this is not it. Go get you a Ford Excursion or Chevy Suburban. It will probably have the Temperature Gauge that you want.
Given it is pretty cheap to put in a temp gauge aftermarket, how cheap would it have been for Toyota to include one at the factory? But of course with the center gauge cluster, it would have been one more thing to cram in a fairly small space. Honda is more at fault here, IMO, since they have a regular gauge cluster in the Fit, and the temp gauge would have easily fit next to the fuel gauge where it normally sits on most cars.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
By the time a warning light comes on, it means stops -- NOW!!
Sorry, but they're called "idiot lights" for a reason.
In the age of computer-controlled-EVERYTHING under the hood, temp gauges are going away ladies and gentlemen.....
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Thanks for any help,
Lucy
"(BTW--I love the center cluster & the driver's side glove box!)"
Us too!!
You made your point. You hate -- really, really, hate -- the location of the speedo and gauges.
The 2nd biggest reason I am selling this car no matter how much I lose is the cheapness. I get off work and it is dark out. I get into the car, start it, turn on the lights. While the floor shifter (auto trans) is lit up, there is NO GEAR "INDICATOR" to tell me what gear I am IN! Just plain stupid and cheap the more I drive it. I test drove a Hyundai Accent that was so much nicer and better equipped but I wanted the Toyota reliability. Not any more.
It is an economy car. Inexpensive for Toyota to build, and inexpensive for the owner to operate. It may have less features than what most Americans have come to expect.
In my view, the Yaris liftback offers American drivers in 2007 essentially the same thing (albeit with more sophisticated technology) that the VW Beetle offered American drivers in 1960: economy, reliability, simplicity, durability. On that level, it seems to me that the Yaris succeeds.
(Remember, the VW had only a speedo and a fuel gauge, and it came with a lousy heater, but we all loved it anyway. It was a hit.)
You could have picked the Accent... but then you would have gotten much worse real-world MPG and a build quality that's (still) inferior to the Toyota (not to mention less in projected resale value). But yeah, the Accent certainly comes with more bells and whistles. I gave the Accent SE hatch a serious look before deciding on the Yaris.
The reference to Seinfeld was the episode where Kramer had taken a car out to rent, or test drive or something (can't recall the exact scenario), and he and the representative at the dealership decided to see how far they could drive the car on "E". It was a very funny episode.
Sorry to hear about your disappointment, but understand. Thank you for posting with us.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I noticed the rear seat back has several little patches of a picture of the rear seat with an anchor. Is it telling me that I can remove the rear seat and stow it in or out of the car?
Also, my owner's manual I received is for the Sedan. Do they have a manual for just the Liftback?
Thanks,
Dave
I keep track of my Gas Milage on my phone (PPC), so I am always looking at how much gas I have.
Every pump is differnt. The fuel could be the lubricant and the coolent. Just like a submersibale water pump, the water is the lubricant.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
It's a moot point if you get a manual trans model.
There certainly are markings near the shift lever to indicate what gear you're in. I think what you're saying is that those indicators are not backlighted.
So what? You can tell the gear selected by feel (once you know the gear order) or you can pop the overhead light on for a second to check visually.
This is obviously a make-or-break point with you; it evidently has ruined your Yaris driving experience. Oh well.
Again, I'm glad I ordered a manual transmission model; it sure beats going insane over gear indicators...
I can understand being upset if you're car was damaged due to running out of gas. But, I don't think you can blame the car because you ran it out of gas. I do think, however, that it would make more sense to build the instrument cluster in such a way that the gas guage is on the same side of the cluster as the steering wheel. I mean it's not like the Yaris gets such great of gas mileage that the clock is more important than the gas gauge.
While I feel bad for the OP and her experiences, I chalk this up to "operator error". It is very hard to miss a flashing signal in your car indicating you need fuel. Also the items she complained about the car are things you observe on a typical test drive. At some point, you have to take responsibility for your actions and not look for someone to blame.
We got this car before it was available in the states, since December 2005, our 2 doors is just like yours, but our 4 door version has the same body as the 2 door (unlike the one available in the states which have a trunk, ours are a 4 door liftback model).
Anyhow the 4 door version has a full digital dashboard were the speed meter changes the digits constantly acording with the speed increase o decrease. Because of this annoying change on the value of the digits, people avoid to look at the dashboard as to keep focus on the road and that is what make the driver miss the fuel gauge and notice when the last 2 bars start to blink.
This is a big flaw on the Yaris gas meter design. As you recall older Toyota models have a red reserve light which is way better as to gain the driver attention.
My simple recomendation after owning one for the last 11 months is to fill up the tank right away once you notice you are down to two bars.
Thanks
Ah well, the good news is, there are cars enough for everyone. You're happy with your Hyundai - and hey, they're great cars! We're happy with our Yaris.
The display said I had 1/2 tank of fuel but the tank actually ran bone dry.
Roadside Assist had to tow it to a Toyota dealer and it took a day to find out why the car wouldn't start.
Next week I should get a new fuel gauge..... But will that one work ?
The Yaris is cute but cheap plastic, only comes with 1 rear reversing light here (Australia) (European design I am told !!!)
Cute is all it is.
I wish I had not bought it.
Sadly, it doesn't matter what car you buy, or how much you spend - there's still always that remote chance you'll get a weird glitch. I'd wager your dealer hasn't seen too many instances like yours before. In my 3/4 of a million combined miles in Toyotas, I've never had a fuel gauge do that - the worst I got was in my old Celica after 175,000 or so miles the needle got slightly out of wack so it never showed completely full and would go below the "empty" mark. I just always filled up around 360 miles.
I had a full tank and had only done 262 kilometres.
But was the gauge telling me the truth when I would put $20 or $30 top up in ?
Full may have been 1/2 full.....?
Still waiting on the part to arrive from a slow boat from ?
The dealers actually told me he had a new Yaris in the week before with a collapsed fuel pump.
Thanks for replying.
Regards to you.
mouse
If you put in a set amount of gas though, then that supports the gauge being mis-calibrated. In other words, if you thought you had half a tank (on the bad gauge) and put in five gallons or 19 L, then it would make sense you only got about 162 miles or 262 km as you really went from almost empty up to a half tank.
I would just make sure to fill the tank to the very top which should be around 10 gallons or 38 L on an average fill up (I believe it's an 11.5 gal tank). I've occasionally had some gas pumps shut off early and you just have to move the nozzle a bit to get it to keep going.
Once it's full, you'll be good for at least 480 km.
Be really careful or stay on the highway and you could achieve more than 700 kms.
I just imported my Yaris 2006 into the UK, the speedometer and ODO are in KM per hour.
So i managed to get another console in MPH, i took out the old one and put in the new one. Its come up in MPH and the ODO is in MPH, but the readings for the ODO are so wrong.
Another guy told me to disconnect the battery for a while and then reconnect it. I tried it and no luck. Its only showing the millage since i put the console in. And the trip reader seems to be wrong. I drove 9 miles and at the end of the journey its showing 1.2 miles.
The overall millage of the car, is it stored in that console or in the cars computer?
Any help would be greatly appreciated