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Digestible summary of the report if nothing else.
Whatever is expedient.
If man is causing GW, we have already lost the battle.
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Someone commenting over at Judith Curry's blog was giving her a hard time for writing an op-ed for an Aussie newspaper after saying a year or two ago that writing op-eds was something only advocates do, not "true" scientists, whatever that means. Interesting that her name has dropped off the face of the earth over at that Berkeley Earth/Muller web site.
The nosing around did lead me to a great Thoreau quote I'd never heard:
"Circumstantial evidence is occasionally very convincing, as when you find a trout in the milk." (Yahoo)
Sounds like something Shifty would come up with. :-)
As I try doing for you, ;-)
I really don't lose sleep over anything. It's all just fun. You can thank me for putting out about 42% less CO2 with my diesel ride. Of course I am driving more, oh well, got a long ways to catch up with Al Gore's Carbon Foot print.
Just five years after China’s high-speed rail system opened, it is carrying nearly twice as many passengers each month as the country’s domestic airline industry. With traffic growing 28 percent a year for the last several years, China’s high-speed rail network will handle more passengers by early next year than the 54 million people a month who board domestic flights in the United States.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/business/global/high-speed-train-system-is-hug- e-success-for-china.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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A survey conducted on behalf of SPIEGEL found a dramatic shift in public opinion -- Germans are losing their fear of climate change. While in 2006 a sizeable majority of 62 percent expressed a fear of global warning, that number has now become a minority of just 39 percent.
In German car news, "The Germans have certainly put their money and prestige on the table. But they differ from Nissan, Toyota, GM, Ford and others all heavily committed to electrified vehicles in one critical way: Instead of entering the market with a sensible sales pitch, the Germans plan to zap consumers with the notion that electrics have sex appeal." (Globe and Mail)
The auto market is so weak there, they may be willing to try anything to generate some interest in car sales.
Why not get in on the US money giveaway for EVs and plugins? BMW sure shows em what is sexy, UGGGLY.
In the distant past there was over 5,000ppm in the atmosphere and the earth flourished. Over time much of the CO2 was captured by the earth and turned into gas, coal, and oil.
Now we are down to about 400ppm. Man is only putting back a small percentage of the CO2 that was already once there.
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http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mhj45gmkd/the-cave-house-bisbee-az/content?partne- r=yahoore
I think that the latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence. They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase.
Their excuse for the absence of warming over the past 17 years is that the heat is hiding in the deep ocean. However, this is simply an admission that the models fail to simulate the exchanges of heat between the surface layers and the deeper oceans. However, it is this heat transport that plays a major role in natural internal variability of climate, and the IPCC assertions that observed warming can be attributed to man depend crucially on their assertion that these models accurately simulate natural internal variability. Thus, they now, somewhat obscurely, admit that their crucial assumption was totally unjustified.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/28/mit-climate-scientist-dr-richard-lindzen-- rips-un-ipcc-report-the-latest-ipcc-report-has-truly-sunk-to-level-of-hilarious-- incoherence-it-is-quite-amazing-to-see-the-contortions-the-ipcc-has/
I don't think Curry has all that baggage.
I can understand why those whose livelihood depends on the "Big Lie" would go along with this insanity, but how anyone else could fall for their lies and misinformation is a big mystery to me.
I think the ipcc is so used to the media carrying their water that they think they can get away with anything. Yahoo must have had 10 stories extolling the virtues of this latest fraudulent report, and the same goes for NBC, CBS, and ABC. This so called main street media is slowly committing suicide.
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In terms of reasons for model underestimation, the apparent ‘preferred’ explanation of ‘the ocean ate it’ does not get any play here, other than in context of a brief consideration of natural internal variability. Their conclusion This difference might be explained by some combination of errors in external forcing, model response and internal climate variability is right on the money IMO, although I don’t think their analysis of why the models might be wrong was particularly illuminating. If you would like further illumination on why the climate models might be wrong, I refer you to my uncertainty monster paper.
http://judithcurry.com/2013/08/28/overestimated-global-warming-over-the-past-20-- years/
If that consensus is now falling apart, as it seems it may be, that is, for good or ill, a very big deal.'
http://judithcurry.com/2013/06/20/the-economist-on-the-new-republic-on-the-pause- /
Notice the framing, how Curry is associated with Republicans who have in recent years made dismissal of climate change a litmus test for GOP membership. Since Republicans have painted themselves as Team Climate Denial and Curry is viewed as their ally, what does that make her?
Now, those familiar with Curry know that she doesn’t belong on Team Climate Denial. She just doesn’t want be on Team Climate Doom. She doesn’t want to be on any team, it seems. In fact, she’s made a name for herself by criticizing tribal behavior in the climate science community. See, for example, this 2010 profile of her in Scientific American, which of course some climate science gatekeepers took issue with at the time.
Since then, Curry has regularly probed and highlighted aspects of climate science that remain uncertain, such as the role natural variation plays in climate change. Curry sees this as part of the larger scientific discussion, but plenty others, including many of her peers, see it as aiding Team Denial (and their evil offshoot, Team Inaction). This has put Curry outside the mainstream of the climate science community. Indeed, as the NPR piece notes,
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2013/08/23/climate-puffery/#.Ukj- gXFMQTcw
PS
I would not trust anything coming out of the University of CA system. It is Corrupt to the max.
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Maybe his money is getting passed through and is off the university books now.
Muller bucked the Kochs and he hasn't been bumped off. Yet.
A University of California-Berkeley study on earth surface temperatures, financed in large part by Libertarian petrochemical billionaire Charles Koch's foundation, has found that global warming is indeed happening and that the emissions of greenhouse gases are truly caused by humans.
University of California-Berkeley Physics professor Richard A. Muller, who led the new study, told Whispers that he believes the Koch brothers really do "want to get the science clarified."
"People think they can look into the minds of Charles and David Koch," says Muller, who himself was previously a climate change denier. "But I have had conversations with them, where they are interested in the science and the proof, so that these issues [on climate change] would be resolved."
David Koch held a campaign event for GOP candidate Mitt Romney, who has said he does believes climate change "is occurring."
Elizabeth Muller, executive director of the Berkeley Earth Project, tells Whispers she too believes the Koch brothers are genuinely interested in the science.
Muller points out that the Arlington, Va.-based foundation's $150,000 grant for the study was "unrestricted," and that the study's stated purpose was to "increase the transparency" of climate change studies.
I guess you noticed that Koch quit funding Berkeley Earth after the first round (they are now in their third round of funding).
Everything else doesn't amount to much....except a way to separate fools from their cash.
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"In 2012, Exxon Mobil Corporation contributed a total of $282,400 to legislative and gubernatorial candidates and caucuses in 15 states". That doesn't count the employees, who kicked in another mil just for the federal races. (link)
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That makes the politicians the corrupt ones. If they don't feed at the trough they are not part of the problem. Blaming it on the corps is disingenuous. The are competing for the ears of Congress against the other corps, unions and special interest groups. Those are the rules Congress has established. Our Corporate oligarchy is corrupt.
The bottom line. The GW alarmist are out to filch the middle class tax payers. The Skeptics are looking out for US the tax payers. That makes the skeptics the good guys and the Politicians the bad guys IMHO.
Hopefully a few NON state owned universities like MIT, have a little integrity. Though most are given grant money with strings attached.
I could have sworn that was a certain Mercedes owner posting just now - had to do a double take.
I see NO reason to trust my government. I love my country and despise our government.
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http://safeshare.tv/w/vwncRciSFb