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http://www.mazdaparts.org/mazda-navigation-disk.html
However, E may not be the newest. I have heard about the "F" version.
Note that the version number for 2009 is different. 2009 has a different NAVI system. A DVD disk also carries some software updates. A DVD disk of 2007-2008 won't work on 2009 and vice versa.
I called them and the agent apologized up and down and swore that it's a supplier issue and that Mazda is well aware of the problem. He also said he'd put me on the "complaint" list and that people on the list will receive all new information as soon as it's available!
I'd encourage as many of you as possible to call Mazda to complain (800-222-5500) since it's not right to have an out-dated map when you have paid for the option in good faith!
However, assuming that your 09 CX9 was made at the end of 2008, it is not unusual to have 1-year old DVD on NAVI system. I have NAVI on 3 vehicles I have owned, it has been that way for all three. (1 Honda, 1 Toyota, 1 Mazda)
I am impressed by Mazda corporate service. The fact that they actually "apologize" to you....
I'm at 14 months and 11,500 miles with several material warranty issues, and local service managers/service departments refusing to work honestly with me (either saying they can't replicate the issues, or saying I'm over the 12month/12,000 mile portion of the warranty, so sorry). I've set up a case and am awaiting regional response from Mazda corporate, and I've talked to a lawyer to see whether arbitration, buyback under lemon law, or tort action is a viable alternative. Not a great place to be. On the other hand, Honda has stepped up and fixed the warranty issues on my '09 Fit (less than half the cost of CX-9) in a fair manner.
Mazda may still rectify as I step up my recourses, but they've lost my future business due to the shoddy service network and dishonest warranty administration. Sad part is, the CX-9 itself is a pretty nice vehicle with decent fit/finish overall.
Hope you enjoy the vehicle, and have little to no need for your warranty. Good luck.
The map on a 2009 is old (2006 version). The newer "B" version is delayed for whatever reason. Ask your dealer about it.
Or, you might want to tune the cost function of routing.
I found that turning ON Prefer Toll Road seems to give more reasonable routes.
Try it. Also, you might want to set "speed" for highway, local, expressway etc.
They all combined into a routing cost function to compute your routes.
The only problem I ever experienced was the NAVI wanted me to change 3 highways so that it could save 1 mile (out of 300miles) for me.
THANKS A LOT!
P.S. my CX9 only had 1 small window issue after 19K miles. Still solid like day 1.
jcarroll22@sc.rr.com
The "E" version of GP9A is for 2007 to 2008, not for 2009.
I would advise you not to try it. The 2009 NAVI system is different from 2007-08 version. The disc is not compatible. AFAIK. Check with your dealer to see if I am correct.
Source of my reasoning....
http://www.mazdaparts.org/mazda-navigation-disk.html
See that in the pulldown menu, there is no 2009 CX9.
I was in the stoneridge mall, right at the junction of I580 & I680. We were heading to twin-peaks in south san francisco. I did a POI lookup and selected guidance. It kept asking me to take I680 south to somewhere down south of san jose and then back to south SF for a total of ~200miles. I kept driving on I580 towards Baybridge and expected it to recalculate the route and show me the shorter distance, which was ~35 miles from where I started. But it never did. Even when I was close to Bay bride it kept asking me to exit and go back on I580 and drive >200 mi!
it is another thing that the POI did not show me twin peaks when searching under south san francisco.
But, as of now, i'm still happy with the vehicle overall.
It probably doesn't want you to take the Bay Bridge.
The last English letter in the part number is the disc version.
Yours is mostly like an "A".
e.g. For 2007-8, here is an "E" version
part #: GP9A-66-DZ0E <--- "E"
Both my Rev D and Rev E say "2007 V.1" in the Version file on the actual disc.
My wife's 2-day old 2009 CX-7 appears to have the exact same POS maps. The version info said the same via the touchscreen interface. I'll be pulling the disc in the next few days to see what the label says, however it appears to be the same as the Rev D and Rev E since a local interchange that was red-done over 2 years ago is still not correct on her disc.
The website is www.mazdanavigation.com
As expected, for 2007-2008, the new version is "F" with 2008.1 map.
For 2009-2010, the new version is "B", also with 2008.1 map.
If you buy a 2009 CX9 today, you may still get the "A" version. Talk to your dealer about this before signing on the dotted line.
coastaletech.com sells a kit to by pass those, but he has not worked on Mazda yet. Note that the customer service of that site is not 1st rated. It is a family business. Your email may never be answered. Just a heads-up.
To bypass the 5mph input lockout, you may
- cut the SS (speed sensor) input to the NAVI (purple wire in the back of display) and install a two-way switch so that you can cut it whenever you
want to input data. However, doing so will shock the NAVI for a while until it gets back on its senses.
- A better hack is to install a pulse-generator with 555 IC (skip this if you don't
understand). This fools the NAVI into thinking that you are driving slower than
5mph, therefore no lockout. (search the web, some guy even posted a circuit
board layout for you for a weekend project if you are up for it.)
P.S. SS input is in the form of a sequence of pulses at certain voltage. The frequency of pulses is proportional to the speed.
Thanks!
sorry, couldnt resist...
features you mention.
answer your question or get the official answer from someone.
You could also call MAZDA directly 800 222-5500 - Let me know what you find out.
There are two kinds of Real-time traffic:
- FM based - like most portable GPS units with this feature. It picks up info from FM RDS system, and display icons to represent problem areas and highway/expressways slowdown in colors.
- Sirius/XM-based. This you will have to pay monthly fee for.
I don't know which system the 2010 NAVI system has. As mentioned above, call Mazdausa.com for details. Or, maybe someone with 2010 can explain more.
My favorite feature is that once we've passed an exit that the nav system ridiculously wants us to take, it won't give up, and will continually tell us to either take the next exit or to make a u-turn on the freeway.
The car is great, but I wish I could return the nav. The hundred dollar hand-held we bought 3 years ago does a better job.
I know. I suffer from this all the times. It is the cost function of programming.
When the GPS gives you choices of routes (shortest, quickest, alternative..), make sure you pick the "quickest" if you dislike U-turns. From GPS' perspective, taking the U-turns back is still the shortest routes until certain miles have passed, then it changes its "mind". There should be a cost/penalty for U-turns and highway junctions, but apparently they are not factors in the routing cost function.
I found that choosing the "quickest" usually gives me more reasonable routes.
Try that if you have not turn all the settings on. For me, I now only occassionally use my Tom Tom to supplement.
BTW, does anyone know if there is a way to use the nav system while driving?
555 IC ...Takes me back to my college days ...course on integrated circuits and design
it BUT like you I love the car....If I don't not buy another it will be due to the performance of the NAVI and the limitations of the Bluetooth Phone set-up Especially the LIMITED voice activated phone book....
I agree with all of the complaints about navi and bluetooth - for a car of this class, this poor performance is not acceptable. While these limitations do not show during a test drive (at least not for me), Mazda will probably not get repeat business from their customers (at least not from me).
I have had my CX-9 for two years now, shame on Mazda for not showing any effort to improve the well documented shortcomings.
Thanks
of limitations of the computer interfaces. Navigation as well as Bluetooth. With the
Bluetooth it is the Voice Activation - 32 entries is way too few for me.
Care to elaborate?
I know many things on board a CX9 are sourced from Japan, such as navigation, transmission, SmartKey system, etc. CX9 shares with Edge the chassis and Duratec engine. The former was lengthened, and latter, heavily modified.
The AWD system is entirely Mazda's.
When you said "essentially the same", it was a very strong statement.
:surprise:
But to get back to the original topic, is it just my voice activation that stinks or should i take it to the dealer and get it looked at?
I was just not in agreement with your view on the "essentially the same" statement.
Just for fun: ask your passengers to say "home" after entering voice recognition mode, and see what the system makes out of it. This is a true source of entertainment, over and over again...
Under Menu/Route Options/Route preferences set everything to "Prefer" and always choose the "Quickest" route when putting in a destination. We did this and now it works fine. Using the Nav system is not intuitive, but like everything, its easy if you know what you are doing. You have to play with it to learn how it works - the manual helps a little. The Nav system voice activation does not seem to work well. One posting said that the Nav system voice activation and the phone/bluetooth system were separate systems. I believe it because the voice activation for the phone works and for the Nav system it doesn't.
For example, I was led through more than 10 miles of local/city streets before getting on a highway, while another highway entrance was near me within 1/2 mile. Just because that 1/2 was in the wrong direction. Any sense person would have chosen to get on the highway since my trip was more than 120 miles!
Always choose the "Quickest".
The is the same for any Lexus/Toyota navi system since they are also from Denso.
:shades:
Voice activation?
My wife has a Toyota Prius with a similar Denso navi system. Both have "amuzing" voice feature. It only has entertainment value....no practical usage :P