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1) You're getting ready to take your dog for a fun afternoon in the park and approach the rear of the CR-V.
2) Approximately 32 inches from the tailgate, you realize that y'all are going to need hydration.
3) Retreat back in the house for water bottles.
4) Water bottles in hand, you return to your car and realize that you forgot the four-legged passenger.
5) Back inside to get the dog. . . .
6) With water bottles fully occupying one hand, you try to use the other to reach into your pocket for the keys. While this is happening, your grip on the leash loosens.
7) Dog spots neighbor's tabby in nearby bushes.
8) Impromptu eight-block sprint.
9) Return to vehicle with dog.
10) Use key/remote to release rear glass.
11) Swing glass up.
12) Swing tailgate to the side.
13) Decide that you've had enough and go inside to watch ESPN SportsCenter.
Seems to me that CR found a shortcut somewhere.
Yes, I'm beginning to organize another CR-V Owners event in Texas. All I have right now is the date, 10/6/01, and a highly probable location of Galveston. I hope to have more details this week. If anyone here is interested in attending, send me an email at slammin@astrosfan.net and I'll keep y'all in the loop.
in getting my windows tinted.
where did you get your tint? how much was it?
thanks
Bob
Bob - That's too funny! I've been planning a future meet and had considered having the worlds first CR-V Olympics as part of the festivities. I had planned on a race for fastest picnic table set up, but I hadn't considered the rear door by itself.
First you pop the hood from inside, then run to the hood and raise it with the rod...
Then you crawl under vehicle, the full length, to the rear...
Finally, you get up and you open the rear door.
Bob
Bob
One of the more interesting events was based on something that has been done at Miata rallies; blindfold autocross. A simple course is set up using orange traffic cones. The driver is blindfolded and must navigate the course (slowly!) guided only by verbal instructions from the passenger.
Bob
Best time I saw it done in was at a VW event at the Sacramento, CA raceway. The winners took less than 3 minutes to finish. And then repeated the whole process a second time before any of the other teams finished. Probably a bit harder with a CR-V.
Oh, wait. They have to restart it. Hmmm....
Bob
:::fleeing for my life:::
http://www.4wdonline.com/Nissan/X-Trail/X-Trail.html
I'm not a big fan of the current CR-V's tail lights. But if the new one looks like this, I could live with it.
Looks like it's the other way around to me.
Or it could be mounted on a swing out frame, but then that defeats the purpose of changing the tailgate to swing up, since you still have to deal with the frame swinging out like a tailgate.
JM2C
I like the look of the Xtrail. It reminds me more of a big HR-V than the CR-V, but it's a good looking buggy.
I think that Nissan will avoid bringing the Xtrail over here, though. The two car strategy with the Altima and Maxima didn't work out so well. If I were them, I'd be hesitant about doing the same with the Xtrail and Xterra.
...and back to the x-trail......nissan would be foolish not to bring it over...the trend is to car-based suv's and they currently have ZERO in their line-up here. shouldn't impact xterra sales as the x-trail plays a whole different ball-game.
If it's true that the new cargo area is bigger, why didn't Honda put the spare in there, fish tub style?
I know that we (the educated consumers of the world) want a rear bumper that is not damaged easily and a tailgate that is easy to open. But the rest of the world doesn't spend their days and nights reading about cars and comparing every little detail. Most people have never heard of the IIHS, never mind the scores for the bumper bash.
Honda has to design these cars for the mass public. The first question they ask themselves when they redesign a car is this: How many sales did we lose because of "_____" feature? Consumer Reports did a poll on the internet (of people like us) and asked what were the top three priorities for buying a car. The answer was reliability, looks, and performance. Bumpers didn't make the list, but looks did.
Want proof? Look at the Aztek. A truly functional vehicle with a lot going for it, but it's not even a blip on the sales radar. The Forester has great handling, good power, great AWD, and reliability. Looks like a wagon = Where are they?
Conversely, we have the Escape. This one falls apart just looking at the bumpers. Where is it? Top of the class. Its big brother the Explorer was a complete dog in previous generations, but it sold because it looked like an SUV icon.
We all know that the CR-V is a hybrid SUV and not much more than a wagon on steriods, but Honda has to sell them. To do that, they also need to sell the SUV image. You can't do that if it looks too much like a wagon.
btw, i can't make out any spare tire in that spy pic but then again, it may not be mounted for shipping purposes.
Personally, I hope that the rear mounted spare is optional. I'm just not going to hold my breath waiting for it.
.....probably another doctored pic by vince burlap who's been posting many fakes at various forums. the centre portion of the hood seems raised, whereas it's indented in the most recent legit pics posted. also, front bumper looks unchanged from cuurent version. i think he just pasted different headlights on an older version and doctored the rear end a bit. sure wish we could get some real pics soon.
Actually the front bumper is different. It should have verticle slots under the center section. However, the ones on the spy pic look painted on. There also looks like a rather fake line running along the bottom edge of the side windows. You're probably right. It's a fake.
btw, fake? spy pic seems to have vanished...i'm getting the red x now too.
But, does Hyundai/Kia have a good 5 speed auto? Maybe the CR-V will get one. Who knows.
1)Wheelbase stay about same 103.5"
2)Up towing capa. to 2500-2700 lbs.
SanteFe does it with 181/177.
3)Increase width to about 70.5".
4)Increase length to about 180".
All of the above can be done with the 2.4L and still maintain pretty good economy. It would also make the CRV the leader in it's class again.
Besides, what would the Honda version of the MDX look like? An Excursion?
I personally think the Santa Fe is more of a small midsize SUV, but definitely not a mini. I've seen this car in person, and it is big (Not Ford Explorer big, but bigger than the mini-ute class).
Also the Suzuki XL-7...definitely no longer a mini-ute.
I like the current CR-V's size. If it's going to grow, which it probably already has, I would like to see an increase in width and height, but definitely not length.
You said that your Honda dealer rep is very internet savvy...well the 160hp rumor has been floating around for a while. I wouldn't be surprised if that sales rep was a frequent visitor to this forum...
And frankly, I don't think that the managers would know any inside information. I would assume that only the top officers at the company would have any information. That is assuming that the top people even have information. Maybe only the top ranking officials at Honda in Japan knows anything and the information has not yet made its way across the shores.
I've maintained since buying my CR-V that one of the big reasons for its success was its size. Back in the 80's most midsized SUVs were about the size of a CR-V (Cherokee, Blazer, Bronco II, Pathfinder, and even the 4Runner). They also cost a good deal less. When the Explorer hit the scene, the sizes started to grow and the price of admission along with it. That left a big gap between the Sidekick and the bigger boys. The CR-V filled it.
Now we have two standards emerging in the mini-ute class. (Have you noticed that even the magazines have stopped calling them "mini-utes", or "cute-utes"?) The RAV4, GV, Tracker, and even the Sportage are holding to their "mini" classification, while the Santa Fe, Xterra, and Tribape are more like "small" SUVs.
The current CR-V kinda falls into the awkward space between these two subclasses. It has the shell of a small ute, but the engine and price tag of a mini. It'll be interesting to see where the next one lands.
Shellymeister - That's a pretty safe figure. If 146 hp can get my '99 CR-V to 60 mph in 8.5 - 9.5 seconds, then 160 hp should do the job just fine. I only hope that they don't add too much weight to it. That'll kill the acceleration.
However, I'm leery that will happen since traditionally Honda's primarily really boosts up the horsepower numbers via VTEC but the torque numbers seem to slumber a few notches below.
As for the weight, the next CR-V will likely gain a few pounds unless they start cladding it with all aluminum or go the Saturn route of plastic (dear God!)...
my 1/2 cents. :-)
The new i-VTEC engines produce a modest increase in torque (about 138-142 ft.lbs). This isn't a big enough increase if you only look at peak numbers. However, the nice thing about these blocks is that they produce 90% of that torque from 2,000 to 4,500 rpms. The current engine doesn't get near peak torque until almost 3,000 rpms (when many folks are just about to up shift).
I'm working from memory here, so please forgive me if I'm off on the numbers a bit.
I also expect a weight gain. I just hope it isn't more than 150 lbs. The new 2.0 blocks are supposed to be smaller and lighter. The Mac Strut suspension is also slightly lighter. I'm guessing these savings will offset some of the weight gains. Adding things like a sun roof, more sound proofing, and airbags will add to the portly factor.