2001 - 2006 Honda CR-Vs

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  • kmhkmh Member Posts: 143
    The CRV's AWD system is "reactive" in that it activates only when it detects wheel slippage from the front wheels and then diverts power to the rear wheels.

    However, I would say vehicle clearance should be factored in as well. I don't know how "high" the Sube sits, but the CR-V has an 8.1" ground clearance which should help get over ran than through some of the snowy stuff.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    on this board will probably say it makes no difference. I like to think of an "pure" AWD system like Subaru's, as added traction insurance. I think (believe), when traction is at its absolute "worst," the Subaru will have an edge. There are also dry and wet road advantages with AWD too, so it's really working for you 365 days a year, not just in the snow.

    Having said all that, I'm sure either a CRV or Subaru would do you just fine for "most" snow conditions.

    Bob
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    jim_loves_cars

    Did you see the show? I did and noticed that the AWD in CRV engaged during a run on gravel. The way it seemed to work sounds practical enough for bad weather situations, except for icy conditions, in which case I don't think anything could defy the laws of Physics.
  • gotnadsgotnads Member Posts: 19
    I have read the questions about mpg, and what I seen in my father-in-law's CR-V was excellent mileage. We had all our fishing gear, suitcases, 2 kids, and a TV driving 60-70 mph through the hills of Arkansas, and we got 28 mpg. That is nothing to sneeze at.

    I wanted an SE last February, but my wife wanted a Sienna. It is a great van, but I liked the CR-V. I am 6'3" and 285. The CR-V had a great seating position for me. I may get one of the new ones later this model year. It would come in handy in the NH snows.
  • martin42martin42 Member Posts: 3
    I am considering a 02 CRV. I drove previous models and did not like the horizontal position of the steering wheel. I couldn't grip the top of steering wheel without extending my arms completely-uncomfortable for me. I would appreciate any comments on this subject.
  • jim_loves_carsjim_loves_cars Member Posts: 190
    I missed the review of the '02 CRV on Motorweek. Actually, I had fogotten about the show entirely. To remedy this I just logged onto tvguide.com and found out that I can see Motorweek on Saturday mornings at 9am.

    Thanks for the reminder!

    -jim
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    What did Motorweek think of the CR-V? I don't even know what channel Speedvision is on anymore, and if it's going to air at 9am on Saturdays, there's no way I'll be able to watch it. Please give us a synopsis.
  • silentguiltsilentguilt Member Posts: 35
    They "fixed" the steering wheel position. It is now supposed to "normal."
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2106.shtml
  • martin42martin42 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for info. on steering wheel. I am first in line for CRV here in Ann Arbor. I should be hearing from dealership soon-perhaps first part of Nov.
  • regularguyregularguy Member Posts: 29
    What do people here think of the gear shifter protruding from the dash of the 2002? I think it looks pretty darned bizzare, and I've pretty much concluded that I'd either get the standard transmission or move on to a different car. I guess I'll have to see it "in person" before I decide for good, but my current inclination is that it ruins the whole appearance of the dash in a major way.

    - Bill
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Wow! That's quite a reaction ... half way between a conventional column shift and the new Civic-R above the floor, in the lower center dash shifter.

    Wasn't there an in dash Chrysler shifter 20-30 years ago, not to mention the dash pod shifter and in steering wheel hub shifter ....

    Yeah, it's rather weird ... but regardless, surprising that you'd reject the entire concept on that basis.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    if it functions properly, and isn't hard to use. It certainly frees up the right side of the steering column for another possible control stalk, if one is needed.

    Bob
  • regularguyregularguy Member Posts: 29
    > surprising that you'd reject the entire concept on that basis.

    Surprising? Really? Haven't you ever looked at a car and said "I like it, except for that [whatever] which totally throws off the appearance." That's where I am, based on the pictures I've seen. Like I said, I may feel differently when I'm sitting in the driver's seat.
    I'm not all that crazy about the hand break either, but it produces nowhere near the intense visceral reaction that the shifter causes.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I don't know if Honda's new "solution" to the gearshift or hand brake is any better than what they've offered in the past. I do know that Honda rarely changes things just for the sake of change. So, until I try the new arrangement, I will give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm sure there's some logical reason(s) for them to make these changes.

    Bob
  • tatu1tatu1 Member Posts: 50
    The November Car and Driver has a Road Test of the 02 CRV. Overall, not much different from the other reviews we've all seen. The part I was interested in was they published Honda's "best guess" for prices: $19,440 for the LX, $21,440 for the 4wd LX, and $22,940 for a manual EX....
  • dill6dill6 Member Posts: 120
    Anyone know of a dealer int he West who has commited to discount the CRV when they arrive? I talked to a salesman yesterday who said their place was planning on a wait and see approach - he said they were still able to get MSRP on the Oddesy (sp?), so they'd wait and see how much interest the CRV generates.
  • gvanmoorgvanmoor Member Posts: 7
    The current MSRP for a manual EX is $21,190.
    Would they really add almost $2K to that for
    the 2002 model?
  • scnamescname Member Posts: 296
    You get a moonroof , side airbag standard. Car is bigger, more engine, more comfort. Of course we all want the improvement for free but it is worth the $2000 .

    I like that shifter as long as it works fine. And the parking brake handle too.
  • gvanmoorgvanmoor Member Posts: 7
    Often completely new models offer a lot more than their predecessor at the cost of only a modest price increase; a $2K increase seems to be out of line. Moreover, the Motorweek Web site claims:

    The top-line 4-wheel-drive EX should be based at $22,000.

    But it is possible they just used current pricing; they don't tell us what they base this estimate on. I guess we'll know more in three weeks or so.
  • sluglineslugline Member Posts: 391
    Actually, if you are already an owner of a first-generation CR-V, then you will realize what Honda is up to. Two of the most appreciated attributes of the CR-V is the nearly flat floor in the passenger compartment, and the folding tray between the seats. By moving the brake handle to the center stack, Honda freed up even more floor space and was able to enlarge the center table. In addition, it makes cleaning easier, and that opening on the floor is no longer potential target for drink spills.
  • thornthorn Member Posts: 91
    Airs Monday evening, 5PM EST, on Speedvision, channel 607 on DSS.

    http://speedvision01.e-media.com/custom/schedules.asp?days=7
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Where/how can I get (pay for?) the full-size/high-resolution 2002 CR-V pictures at:


    http://www.hondanews.com/forms/honda/CRV/index_images.html?kw=currenthonda


    I am especially interested in the line diagrams and cut-aways. I tried signing on as an academician, but was rejected with a nonsensical copyright violation explanation ... I'm not gonna be distrtibuting 'em!


    Any help is appreciated.


    P.S. Dealers have good illustrations of forthcoming accessories for the 2002 CR-V ... including side cladding, maybe not the prettiest, but hopefully reduce door dings :-)

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Too bad Motorweek wasn't able to do full instrumented tests. They liked it, though.

    I look at the Avancier and Accord wagons now, after seeing the new Mazda 6, and they seem a bit plain. Mazda has a real stand out in terms of styling. I hope the wagon and 5 door hatch make it to the US.

    -juice
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    This would be the place you will often see 'cutouts' et. al. Just search for the vehicle.


    http://www.wieck.com/public/*wieck_search?ws4d_nav=true&Source=ALL&latest=7&Page=1

  • gkoffgkoff Member Posts: 36
    You should search earlier messages. Others have commented on sound deadening. What I did is get material from JC Whitney catalog or website. I put it under hood and in doors. It is easy to apply, just takes time.
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Thanx for the URL robertsmx, but those are the same pictures as the hondanews site ... I'm looking for the high resolution versions.

    maineManx
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    That link led me to pictures of the 2002 Land Rover Freeloader.
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Go to robert's link for the 2002 Land Rover ... then do a search on "crv" (not cr-v) and you'll get the same pictures as the hondanews site.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    So, anyone seen one at a dealer yet? Should be only a week away, so they may start stock piling them.

    -juice
  • illinoiscentraillinoiscentra Member Posts: 67
    Here's another review from up north, and it has some higher res pictures, just click on the smaller pics:

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/roadtest/02cr-v.htm.

    I'm in the market for a new vehicle, and the CR-V, the Forester, or a Camry are my top picks.

    Could anyone comment on why Honda waits to the last moment to reveal prices on the CR-V? My guess is that its not that much more than 2001, and Honda does not want to undercut 2001's. If it was $2000 higher why not just release them? Any opinions?
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    "What I did is get material from JC Whitney catalog or website. I put it under hood and in doors. It is easy to apply, just takes time."

    The heat from the engine wouldn't cause the paper of the catalog to catch fire? :))
  • beatfarmerbeatfarmer Member Posts: 244
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Looks like the new CR-V


    http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=4318&sid=176&n=156

  • bordsourcebordsource Member Posts: 95
    Thanks for the tip!
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    The wieck website sometimes has some pictures with 'cutouts' (eg. search RSX, and you'd see some of what I mean, a few pages down). Otherwise the best place would be to visit Honda's JDM website:
    http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup

    you could use Altavista's website (below) to translate most of the text into English (although the translation can be funny sometimes). I'm sure they will have plenty of technical details on the CRV posted. Usually i look for a link called 'fact book'.

    Altavista's website:
    http://babelfish.altavista.com
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    Actually kinda looks like a current CR-V with Prelude headlights and Corolla grille.
  • thornthorn Member Posts: 91
    October 25, 2001


    Honda Motor Might Boost

    Full-Year Earnings Estimate

    By PAUL INGRASSIA and TODD ZAUN

    Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

     

    TOKYO -- Honda Motor Co., bucking a trend among global companies who have reported disappointing earnings following the terrorist attacks in the U.S., may upgrade its earnings forecast for the year ending in March if the yen remains weak.


    President Hiroyuki Yoshino said that in the U.S., Honda has been enjoying double-digit growth so far in October although it hasn't introduced any special incentives after the attacks, as other major auto makers have done.


    "We have a low level of inventories on many models and haven't faced the need to introduce special incentives. So, I think we are in stronger position than others' in the U.S., he said. Overall, "sales and profits are both rising at Honda," the top executive said in an interview at the Tokyo Motor Show. A Honda spokesman said that zero-interest financing campaigns by major U.S. auto makers have revived overall traffic in showrooms.....

    http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB1003948203212805360.htm

  • marky777marky777 Member Posts: 24
    I'm just waiting for the dealer to get them in stock. The one I'm using here in Vancouver says to expect them in early December. He's already said that I can do the same sort of no-hassle 3% over invoice pricing that I got on a previous vehicle through him. Sweet!

    They should have some demo models for people to preview in mid-November, so I'll post when I get word of that.

    I almost bought a 99 CRV-EX, but opted for a civic at that time as it was more affordable. My main vehicle just got ripped off last Friday, so the timing is good for the 02 CR-V.

    Color??? Silver or blue, i think...
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    Which dealer in Vancouver are you going with?
  • shellymeister2shellymeister2 Member Posts: 115
    Our local dealers are having a "Ride & Drive" tomorrow (10/26)for the new CRV that is NOT open to the public. My dealer told me a few weeks ago. I figured that Honda would probably arrive the day before (today 10/25)to set up in advance of the event, and I was right! They had brought 3 CRV's, 2 LX and 1 EX. Colors: Black, Green & Silver. They also brought a Ford Escape, Jeep Liberty, and a RAV4. The dealers will be encouraged to drive all the vehicles to compare features and how they feel to drive.
    My first impressions (unfortunately I could not drive them): The exterior looks better in the "flesh" than in the photos. The vehicle looks much more modern and up to date than the model it replaces. The new CRV has some good-looking angular creases on the profile, and especially the rear. The lights in the rear look much better than the current model, cleaner, better styled, lower in height, and classier. The front end is also a pleasant surprise- not as overly prominent as it might appear in photos, but more Mini-MDX like. A couple of criticisms- the overall exterior appearance comes across SMALLER than the original CRV, and that's a surprise because the photos made it appear larger. In addition, as pleasant as the New CRV is styled, it's still a very conservatively styled mini SUV, especially when viewed against the other SUV's present at the event.
    The interior surprised me in INCREDIBLE amount of interior space. I'm not exaggerating- when you sit in the new CRV you cannot believe that the exterior dimensions are so modest. The front seats are a HUGE improvement, wider, longer, taller, bigger, way more comfortable, yada yada yada. But the real surprise is in the rear, where limousine-like legroom just blows you away. Honda should get some kind of award for designing such a flat floor and so much stretch-out room in a mini-SUV. You sit much higher than in the rear seat of the new VUE. Also, all you people out there with kids, you can move the two sections of rear seat to the most forward position, and still have plenty of leg space for kids up to age 10-12, in order to make the already huge trunk even more impressive. The trunk space on the new CRV easily beats all the rivals in the mini-Suv category, and believe it or not, rivals bigger SUV's. Honda has done that near impossible feat by making the load floor extremely low, so that you not only have considerable depth on the load floor behind the rear seat, but an unusual amount of height. I would say you can comfortably fit about 5-6 good size suitecases back there. From a roominess standpoint, one could argue that it would almost be hard to justify buying any other vehicle, if you were mostly concerned about space.
    The dashboard was another nice surprise, and I saw both LX and EX versions. I viewed the Camel, and Charcoal interiors, and my vote goes to the Camel. It looks far more interesting to me than the dark grey, kinda standard looking interior color. The Camel is a very different kind of Brown, kind of, well Camel-like. The seat material is sort of more funky and more stand-out-ish, which might turn off some buyers. It's nice however, to see Honda take a little design chance on the interior especially after having such a conservative exterior. The 3 A/C Heat-Vent knobs are larger and more prominent looking than in the photos. And they look pretty cool with their brushed aluminum accents. The interior materials are absolutely first-rate. The dashboard especially exudes a feeling of quality. The gauge display is definitely a cut above other current Honda products. My only dashboard criticism concerns the radio/CD changer which for some reason to my eyes, looks a little bit chaep aftermarket.. It just looks kinda like an afterthought, more like it was not designed by Honda, but an aftermarket designer. More minor criticisms; the carpet piece lining the floor of the trunk is not up to the quality level of the rest of the interior. The wheels are too small for the size of the vehicle, and the alloy wheels on the EX look more like painted steel wheels.
    Overall however, the NEW CRV looks like a winner to me, admittedly already leaning toward a Honda mini-SUV anyway. I hope to be able to convince my dealer to let me drive it tomorrow.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Two petty questions- In the EX model, were the door handles and side mirrors the same color as the rest of the car? Also, the covering for the spare- is it body-colored hard plastic on EX?

    I was hoping the small tires were just a distortion on the pics we've seen so far. The current CR-V uses the same sized tire, but in real life they seem to fit the car fine. Maybe if one could install plumper tires...
  • shellymeister2shellymeister2 Member Posts: 115
    No the EX surprisingly has black handles, and a the same plastic/cloth cheap cover the current EX has.........
  • shellymeister2shellymeister2 Member Posts: 115
    oops...the mirrors ARE body colored.........
  • scnamescname Member Posts: 296
    tell me that dealer is in Houston Texas ,,,no ? I'd like to see one real life too.
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    Thanks Shellymeister! It's nice to read something other than the same specs and comments that seem to be coming from the pro journalists. Your review and the one done by Bing go into much more detail.


    So what does everyone think will be the first aftermarket gizmos for the '02 CR-V? I'm guessing that a grill with body colored sides would make someone a fortune. Body colored door handles might also make the list. You can already get chrome handle covers for the current CR-V.

  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    And just get the blue colored one, since the black cladding seems to work well with it.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    It looks tacky. Having the handle being chrome is ok, but to have the whole thing as chrome, that just screams ostentatiousness.
  • varmitvarmit Member Posts: 1,125
    Diploid - Yeah, I'd rather see a body-colored variant than chrome. I think that chrome would look okay against a metallic silver or white paint job, but on a dark color (like the blue pictured in that link) it does look out of place.
  • scnamescname Member Posts: 296
    Why is it the Canadians get a CRV with leather and painted bumper and we don't ? Is Canadian Honda warranty good in the US ?


    http://www.canadianautoreview.com/honda_cr-v.htm

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