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My car was used too, so I paid 25% of orig sticker for 7 yr old car. It wouldn't be fair to put it's 240 HP and 6.5 sec time up against something that cost new what I paid for my used one. It would have to be a motorcycle.
I do not believe the 8% number without clarification. Is that the 3.9 or the 5.3L? Is that hwy, city, or combined? I will be suprised if that is a 5.3L, hwy mileage percentage, because when I drove one, the instantaneous mileage readout changed by way more than 2 mpg when it turned into a 2650cc 4 cyl. But if you never get out of the city and never hit 50 mph for any of your driving, then DoD won't save you any gas, but neither will 5th or 6th gear of a tranny.
A XJ actually weighs a little more then an Impala. I think around a 100 lbs or so depending on options. That makes sense though even with the all aluminum alloy chassis the Jag has a lot more features then the Impala including a heavy air suspension. It makes about the same horsepower and torque with 1.1 less liters in the engine.
If you use the 2008 numbers then the jag is actually one mpg ahead of the Impala.
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Says "up to 8%"
" Impala SS is powered by the all-new 5.3L small-block V-8 with Active Fuel Management technology, which regulates between eight-cylinder and four-cylinder operation and provides up to 8 percent improved fuel economy in certain light-load driving conditions. The 5.3L small-block V-8 is rated at 303 horsepower (226 kW) and 323 lb.-ft. (438 Nm) of torque"
Ha. I just saw a sign at a specialty car store that offered 144 months. TWELVE bloody years. And you know there's a poseur out there ready and willing to sign on the dotted line.I'm in the wrong business.
Re: CU stats: even the worst vehicle at 175 problems per 100 cars equals less than TWO problems per car after several years. CU tested a brand new Coronet wagon in 75 or 76 that had over 50 sample defects, some of them so serious that they compromised the very safety of the vehicle.
"Faring poorly" is indeed relative. But the headline grabs attention and validates what people want to believe.
A minimum of 100 responses required and a max of 7000 actual ones for a single model spread over a 10 year time span ??? That would give a great statistical sampling to the Camry that was mentioned but the car with 100 responses ??? I would rate that too little to give an accurate reliabilty rating to any car, Camry or Aveo.
but of course, mb still thinks that every benz owner should be able to afford regular maintainence and the inconvenience of warranty repairs.
Will we be seeing calls for taxpayer subsidzed bail outs too ??/
I thought seeing 96 month loans in Las Vegas 8 or 9 years ago was bad. But then it was Vegas, not Sherman Oaks. :surprise:
I recall a lot of Hemi owners complaining that the cylinders didn't really deactivate all that often, and real world mileage was still mediocre.
Their speed limits are 75 mph anyway.
The worst highway that I have been on for traffic was between Kansas City and St. Louis. The speed limit was not 75.
I'm sure DoD would turn on and off frequently around here.
-Frank
Speed limit was 65 IIRC but people would do 80 even with police on the shoulder. :surprise:
On the government fuel economy website, one owner of an Impala with the 5.3 engine reports highway mileage of 20.5 MPG. Another reports 19.5, but some trips are more (23). Owners with V6s are getting around 25 MPG.
My experience is that speeding along at 90 MPH does not really save that much time by the end of the day. This is because you will end up clogged in slower traffic a lot of the time. In Wyoming traffic clogs are less frequent, but most highways are two lane, so you will get behind a truck before long...
According to the computer I got 69 mpg in a '98 Deville about ten minutes ago, so I think the computer is full of bantha poodoo.
The best time I can find is around 6.12 seconds.
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I just think you have a tendency to over exaggerate your numbers.
yardsfeet?People often brag about their record numbers, I'm sure you see 30mpg in the computer readout, but what do you get on a full tank? On average?
C&D got 16mpg.
Cobalt owners are reporting up to 36 MPG.
Prius owners all report less than 50 MPG.
My van was getting 31.3 mpg at one point on a trip, but for full tankfulls my average is more like 23-27mpg.
I refuse to believe you could get 30+ with an Impala V8 unless you were driving downhill from Pikes Peak.
I averaged between 35 and 40 mpg with that car on long trips depending on the time of year and if I was in the mountains or not.
I got between 25 and 27 in the city if I drove normally and a little less if I really hammered it.
Still, city mileage takes a nose dive. You have to start and stop all that weight, and can't really take advantage of the gearing until you cruise on the highway (not too slow, not too fast).
Hit the sweet spot, in my case 46-60 mph or so, and mileage is phenomenal. But I'll admit you have to try to stay within that range and really make wise lane choices to keep above 30mpg. It's hard work! :shades:
I've read guys who track their cars, keeping it in VTEC mode the whole time will get about 12mpg :surprise:
My little AWD Impreza manual gets 31mpg at the moment, and that's cruising at 75-80 on the highways.
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2007/HPT%20Library/Premium- %20V/2007_46L_LH2_SRX.pdf
I was thinking it redlined at 5000 rpm. Maybe that was the older ones?
If you could find the space to floor it and keep it planted for several minutes and keep the tranny from upshifting early, I bet you could blow through a few gallons, too.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList2&make=Chevrolet&model=Im- pala
But I really do not want to run it wide open for several minutes. I assume that to use 3 gallons in 4 miles you made 16 quarter mile runs?
Not quite, but I understand your point.
Still, this is the same for every brand of car, and the imports tend to do best in any given class.
Overall: Prius, VW TDI
Compact gas non-hybrid: Corolla, Civic, etc.
Mid-size: Accord, Altima, Camry
A quarter mile at WOT, a quarter mile back at 20 mph, and an eighth circling around the parking lot and the staging lanes x 7 times.
You'll spend a small fortune on racing fuel, but if you're going to the track that's probably not in your top 10 list of concerns.
One run in that Camaro just about emptied the fuel cell. I don't remember how big the fuel cell was though.