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Towed it too the dealer, they fixed the TPS (it was in the codes). The next day it happened again. Towed it again, this time they changed the alternator, and its been fine for about two months now.
Also, if anyone is having trouble starting your car on the first turn of the ignition, it is the 100% the fuel pump, which is covered 5 years 60000 miles
BTW, I measured for only relatively short period of time after locking the car (less then a minute). I don't know if there's anything non-obvious that turns off after the car is locked for longer time period (reducing the current drawn from the battery).
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Now I am reading online and many are having the issues I am having, claiming it is the fuel pump. It is in the dealership today and I actually shot a video of the issue, offering to show the service guy, but all of a sudden, he is saying "sounds like the fuel pump". I am really frustrated that there has been a lack of communication from Hyundai about this issue and it seems that MANY are having the same problem. My wife is 4 weeks away from having a baby and we need a reliable car. If other issues continue, this will be my last Hyundai. We have already had the rotaries replaced, sunglass holder, rear view mirror, etc... Thank goodness I bought the extended warranty & haven't had to pay anything yet.....
Anybody who knows about brakes realizes that their primary function is to dissipate the heat caused by the rubbing of the brake pad on the metal rotor. Consequently, "turning" a rotor (ie taking metal off the rotor) serves only to reduce the ability of the break to dissipate heat. What does this mean? Well these rotors will no doubt warp again as they can not handle the heat being produced by braking. Hyundai knows this but hopes consumer will go away because the brakes will feel "fixed" for a few thousand mile (or less) until they warp again.
This post is to warn anyone reading that Hyundai will not stand behind their product. They use sub-standard...ie cheap...rotors which warp. Google the issue and you will see many others with the same problem. Now the Veracruz is NOT a cheap car...indeed it was $38k car back in 2008 when I purchased it. If you want to sell cars at these prices then you need to treat the consumer better. Indeed, how much more could replacing the rotors cost vs cutting them??
Hyundai has just lost a customer for life and I will no longer recommend their cars. This is a safety issue also as one can lose control of the vehicle when the steering wheel begins to shake violently in a panic stop. Rotors do warp but better manufacturers at least replace with new pieces instead of recommending the "cheap" repair of cutting the rotor.
So keep this in mind when you shop your new Hyundai....when you spend close to $40k you might as well get an Acura, Infiniti, Lexus, etc because they treat their customers better....have owned all three and can attest to this fact.
Fool me once Hyundai...but never again. Good luck marketing higher end cars when you won't even replace your own cheap rotors.
Either way, cheap OEM rotor can not take the heat. I note that this vehicle has much below average usage on the brakes as the about 1/3 of the mile were interstate with very low brake usage. And I have never used the brakes on mountains or any major emergency stop that might cause this. Very typical/below average use yet they still warped. I want a new rotor because at least that rotor will last longer, assuming Hyundai has not upgraded to a better quality replacement rotor, which I doubt given how cheap they appear to be. Or perhaps they don't want to set a precedent and admit the problem as it could lead to a recall.
Bottom line is it is a problem and Hyundai does not care. Stupid, as they lost me as a customer and when people ask about what I think of the vehicle, I'll say nice but beware of Hyundai as they don't care about customer or safety. Again, this has happened on other vehicles I have owned and manufacturer has always replaced the rotor as they know that cutting it is a cheap, short term fix. So before buying that Veracruz or Genesis, take a look at the Acura, Infiniti or Lexus. Indeed, I was considering a Genesis and the Acura TL. I have owned Acura in the past...night and day dealer experience not to mention service when compared to Hyundai. And the prices are about the same. Given my first warranty experience with Hyundai, can you guess who is going to get my business?? They better keep their customers out of the cheap showrooms with the Equus and treat them better. That is why you pay more for Lexus/Infiniti...why risk it with unknown Hyundai who now shows a history of cutting corners and screwing over customers. Remember, this was a $38k vehicle, not a $12k Elantra.
Sorry Hyundai...penny wise and pound foolish.
Hopefully, Hyundai will learn from Honda's mistake and correct this right away.
All rotors will warp at some time. At 17,000, that is too early. Wanting them to put new rotors on when the rotor is a wearable part that is only covered under a 12 month/ 12,000 mile warranty will be tough. Like I said, their rotors are under engineered. If they would put new rotors on as a sign of good faith, they would put they same under engineered ones on. 18,000 miles or sooner you'll be in the same boat. Besides the crappy rotors, are you happy with the vehicle? Has the dealer been responsive to any of the other problems you may or may not have and have they corrected them in a timely matter? I've learned my lesson about their rotors and that is why I'm going with a different make. What if the Acura or Lexus dealer had done the same thing about poor rotors or any other problem on a wearable part with 17,000 miles on it, would it be OK because it's a Acura or Lexus or Infinity.
And my point with the other manufacturers is that I have dealt with them and they do REPLACE rotors. Lexus GS i owned made a grinding sound...they immediately replace rotors and pads to fix. Still there. Diagnosed as bad tires. So what did Lexus do?? They replaced OEM Bridgestone tires with new Michelin Pilots...FOR FREE. They did this for two different GS's I owned. That is about $1000 of rubber times 2 cars. That is why Lexus is Lexus...and yes I realized I pay for it part via higher price.
No problem with past Acura, but had Infiniti QX and they had well known brake rotor issues. No problem...new rotors two times before they finally fixed with better hardware.
Now compare to Hyunda....sorry, we'll only cut your rotor to hide the problem for a few thousand miles. Sorry...unacceptable and you have lost me as a customer and I will tell everyone about this. I do like the vehicle otherwise, but why risk it with future issues?? If I can't have a problem free cars for at least 36k miles, why bother. Brake failure at 17k miles should be covered and has been by other manufactures. Again, if Hyundai is going to sell cars from a cheap Elantra to a $40k plus Genesis, they better distinguish how to treat these customers. Veracruz competes with Acura MDX and Lexus RX. Both of these manufacturers would NOT cut rotors.
Again, you get what you pay for. Goodbye Hyundai, nice knowing you!
Our Hyundai Veracruz is a 2008 and we have already had these replaced: rotors, sunglass holder-wouldn't open all the way, battery (had a bad cell), and recently a fuel pump-car wouldn't start like others & so many have had this issue, it should be a recall. Now all of this we have had no arguments on them replacing and have had to contribute $0.00. That being said, it has still been very frustrating & very inconvenient having this many issues with a 2008!
I recently bought an 2010 Acura TL and I bet $$$ that I won't have these kinds of issues in 2012 (when it's 2 years old).
It might be due to the face that its a 6 speed transmission, and is in 6th gear, so it needs to downshift to get any power (think of a mountain bike if that helps)
It did bother me to begin with, but as I see it, its helping me save a little gas, so i'll deal with it.
Always happens in the am when cold. After a couple of times turning the car off then on again the problem goes away and eventually check engine light. Have an apt next week.
Any other info I can tell the dealer when I go in?
The next day, the dealer replaced the Throttle position sensor. I wonder there is a design issue with this sensor. :sick:
as well as
http://www.safeny.ny.gov/veh-link.htm
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/problems/
The more complaints are registered to third party, the better outcome. Because not many of us report or take this issue to the organization who can help us.
Hyundai Technical Service Bulletin, May 2009, Engine, Number 09-EM-002, CVVT oil control valve inspection.
Hope this helps some of you guys.......easy fix. One on each head & one bolt each holding each in.
This will cause hesitation from stop, bogging down & etc. There is one on each cylinder bank.
Latest Veracruz and Santa Fe Recall.
http://www.insideline.com/hyundai/veracruz/2007-08-hyundai-veracruz-and-santa-fe- -recalled-for-defective-driver-airbag.html
We continued on our trip and when returned home brought the car to to the Hyundai dealer where it was purchased to service the car. After they examined the car we were told there was nothing they could do as there were no error codes in memory and we should continue to drive it until it happened again. When I mentioned that there was a technical service bulletin regarding the throttle sensor and it should be either replaced or tested, I was told that they could not do anything until an error was recorded in the memory of the computer because Hyundai USA would not cover anything under warranty even though this was a serious safety concern and would most likely occur again. When I asked if it was likely to occur again, I was told it most likely would happen soon and too be careful.
A month later, when traveling on a long trip, it happened again traveling at about 65 mile per hour. This time there was no shoulder but I was able to partial pull of the road and put on my hazard lights as cars drove by and avoided hitting mine. Based on my prior experience, I turned the car off and was able to restart and move again. This same situation occurred four (4) more times as I was able to get my car finally back home to the Hyundai dealer to service the car.
The Hyundai dealer replaced both the throttle sensor and the pedal assembly and the car appears to be working properly for the last two weeks.
Having researched the problem with acceleration, I have learned that a number of other owners have experienced this similar and potentially dangerous problem. After speaking with other Hyundai service technicians I was told off the record that this was not an uncommon problem. As the throttle sensor cost less than $30 I am not sure why Hyundai did not address this problem when I first brought the car in for repair or as a recall as the consequences could be much more serious.
Jim
OEM Bluetooth
Take a close up of the parts and send to me, I'll see what I can do to help.
Jim
Sorry for the delay in response; I never received a message from this site advising there were new messages, so I assumed you never replied.
Couldn't find anything relative to those numbers, but it sounds like a Parrot, check their recent models out here: Parrot Manuals
Sounds like you got a nice deal.
Hope this helps,
Jim
The next morning I drove it there and they diagnosed the problem. The vehicle would have to remain there for an extended period of time. Hyundai did not offer a loaner car, or any assistance to get me and my family home, I was on my own. (Thats what you call Hyundai Assurance) I rented a car for 350$ at the regional airport and drove back to NYC.
After spending countless hours on the phone with Hyundai I got no where, I even emailed the President and told him about my story. The next day a regional customer service person called me and tried to help me recoupe some losses. I wanted Hyundai to deliver the vehicle to me when it was repaired, pay me 350$ for a rent a car, and 115$ for my hotel room. They were willing to pay me up to 1,000 dollars but would not ship my car to NYC. So I rented another car to drive back to P.A. for 350, 5 hours there and 5 hours back. To me that was the last straw.
I purchased the vehicle brand new. Immediately after taking possesion the TPMS light would go on. I took it in the dealer. They would reset the computer and check the tire pressure. It did not fix the problem. So I continued to bring it into Hyundai and they did the same thing. I brought it in 5 times and savd the receipts. ( During this time it had other problems; one time my wife was driving it and the axile light came on the dash, the vehicle lost all power. Other issues; mirors would not turn down when in reverse sometimes. The steering wheel would jerk to the left and right when hitting a bump.) I then looked into the NYS Lemon Law and I knew I had a case.
I contacted an attorney and they took the case. I ended up settling with Hyundai for 5,000 because they werent able to fix the TPMS system from malfunctioning. I traded in the Vercruz for 23,500 and bought a 2012 Toyota Sienna for my wife. We are very happy with Toyota.
I probably wouldn't have threatened to sue Hyundai if they would have shipped the vehicle 350 miles to me. I guess for a big company 5,000 dollars is nothing but for me it got me into a 2012 Siena with practically no money out of pocket. But Hyundai lost more than 5,000 dollars. I would never buy another Hyundai. I believe their commercials are misleading, Hyundai Assurance. Whats the use of having a 5 year warranty if the vehicle is not relaible? I am so happy to be rid of that Varacruz, it gave me nothing but problems, and did not drive well.