Oh, I know the Freelander has been around for a while in Europe (though I was uncertain as to how long). But that doesn't mean much when the vehicles it's going to be compared to happen to be newer models and do better in certain aspects. The potential buyer selects what's available now, whether a model is relatively mature or relatively young. That's a standard fact of the auto industry, as competitors' model revisions tend to be off-sync. Just a fact of life.
Hello, I am considering a 2002 CR-V but am concerned about the car's ability to stay tight over the long run when being driven daily in pot-hole city. What is your experience? Thanks for any info you can give me. Gary
I'm going to need a new automobile, it is either CRV, hybrid Civic, or Sentra Spec V. What price should those be?, and which one is better for the value?. I live in DFW/TX area, thanks advance for all the advices.
With the choice of those 3 cars, here's how to pick.
If your priority is fuel economy, go with the hybrid civic.
If your priority is performance, go with the sentra spec v.
If your priority is interior room or cargo space or all wheel drive, go with the crv.
If your priority is price, I think the sentra spec v is the cheapest.
This is a pretty diverse list of cars to be selecting from, though. I would recommend spending some time on the edmunds site researching the 3 cars and checking out the TMV prices there to compare. That way you can select the car that best fits your needs.
Thanks to everyone who advised me! At the last fill up I reset the trip thingy to "0". Filled up again last night--11.721 gallons. The miles were at 286.2. If I did the math right that's 24.4 mpg for mixed, mostly city, driving with the AC on a lot (it's in the 90s). I can live with that.
Since you're all so helpful, what can I use on Rosebud's interior plastic to remove handprints and scratches? That stuff is so sensitive.
The material that makes up the dash area is so sensitive to scratches - has anyone found something that will help. Especially around the glove compartment - it is so easy to scratch this when entering/exiting.
I have not posted here in ages.... Still check the comments though. I have a 2000 CRV EX. I like it enough, but wouldn't mind some more power. With all the HP upgrades available for Civics, and CRV's being Civic-like, does any of that stuff work for CRV's?
Yes, you can add power to the '97-'01 CR-V just like you can to Civics. Engine-wise, it's a very close relative of the Civic Si and Integra LS, and it can benefit from basic bolt-on "breather" mods. Just keep in mind that the benefits will be less apparent in a CR-V; at 3200 pounds, there's quite a bit of bulk to motivate compared to a Civic. The freer breathing also does not deliver big payoffs until you hit higher rpms, and usually at the expense of higher noise levels. For serious "kick," you must turn to forced induction, but by the time you reach that price level, trading yourself into a 2002 may start making more sense.
As far as that eBay link you posted: Take a good look in the engine bay of your CR-V. There's already a piece that routes exhaust gases away from the intake manifold and into your exhaust. It's called the exhaust manifold. It has a metal heat shield, and it takes a rather direct route down into the catalytic converter, passing nowhere near the intake manifold. In fact, the intake and exhaust manifolds are on opposite sides of the engine block. So that listing is causing my DoubtMeter(tm) to register abnormal levels of, um, stuff.
I am on the lookout for a used CR-V and request some advice from you all owners. The main reasn why I want to buy a CR-V is a higher seating position than my current compact. Me & my wife have back problems and cannot sit for long in the low seating position of a sedan.
Am I being too hopeful in expecting a better seating compared to a sedan? Or would I be better off in a mini-van?
Also, I am looking at a 98-99 model (afordability issues). Would you advice if they're decent model years?
My parents used to own a '91 MPV minivan. They just recently bought a 2002 CR-V. The main reason they bought that over a car was because my dad likes a higher seating position (he doesn't feel comfortable in a low car). He finds the CR-V to be the same or better than the MPV.
You would be very happy with either the 98 or 99 CRV I had the 98 CRV from new until 70,000 miles WITHOUT a single problem! It was flawless!
The 99 has 20 more horses so you may want to consider that year over the 98. Although I found the manual 98 and manual 99 to have the same power when I drove them both, the 99 being a little more engine loud. I think the 99 automatic makes a difference over the 98 automatic. THat's my two cents...
What's up with the TV ad for the Pilot? After seeing a year's worth of CR-V commercials with the "for your real world adventures" message, the Pilot spot seems to promote the typical SUV guys/mud/bikes/tear up the countryside image. Does Honda's left hand know what the right hand is doing here?
I think the CR-V would definitely be worth investigating. Most people will not need a high step-up nor a low crouch to enter. The seat and steering wheel promote an upright posture -- like a dining room chair. If you need an overview of the changes between '98 and '99, see . . . http://users.ev1.net/~aurelio/crv/facts/index.html#mychrono . . . for more USA first-generation CR-V data than should be allowed by law <GRIN>.
Many thanks for all the advice, especially the link. Now, I am definitely interested in a CR-V. The only problem left is to get a fair trade-in for my trusted '00 Protege at the certified Honda dealer ;-) .
And, do you think $15K for a certified '98 CR-V with 50K miles, a fair deal?
Seriously, I think you may get screwed if you take the Pro in as a trade-in. I know it's more hassle, but you'll get more money out of a private sale than a trade-in at the dealer.
I'm sure you've already considered this, but the Pro has average resale so don't expect near what you paid for it back for on trade-in.
I have friend who has back problems and had a 98 CR-V. She could never get very comfortable in the seats and ended up selling it after a few years. She was 5'-3" and fairly petite. I have a 2002 CR-V and find the seats in it and my 2000 Accord very comfortable, but I do not have back problems. Maybe you should see if you can find a CR-V to rent for a day or so before you buy to see if it suits your back problems.
H109 - I'd also recommend the CR-V for seat height. Just make sure that you can tolerate the very upright seating position. I like it, but many others do not.
Wmquan - Going way back, I forgot to clarify something.
"I think the "bar is being raised" constantly on crash test scores. "Acceptable" may have been acceptable several years ago. But given that so many vehicles now get "Good", I think it's time to consider raising the bar. We all know that, overall, vehicles are safer today than in the past. So while we may be getting "diminishing returns" on safety, it's still important to distinguish the various levels."
I'd rather see new crash tests than simply raising the bar on the existing ones. I think this is what you were getting at when you mentioned diminishing returns. There comes a point when the differences are no longer worth noting. While we may be able to measure and rate a vehicle with 1mm of movement in the A pillar vs 2mm for another vehicle, that doesn't make the difference significant. It becomes academic rather than practical.
I would rather see new tests, that measure safety from different angles or different conditions. For example; Volvo and MB have demonstrated excellent structural designs with a rollover crash scenario. Other manufacturers conduct the same or similar test, but Volvo and MB have been the most public with it. Measurements based on that sort of test would be interesting to me.
Tom_k - I think that they are two different products aimed at two different markets. The Pilot is supposed to be more of a utility vehicle than the CR-V.
As for the commercials, I'd rather see something different, but I can't fault Honda for trying to compete with others in the market. If they aren't going to show it towing bikes or driving over the snow, what would they do? Show people snickering at mini-vans?
remember if you trade in the Protege you will only have to pay tax on the difference between the two vehicles. Typically you save around 1000 dollars when you are talking about a $15k vehicle. So selling the car outright instead of a trade in is not always the best option. Assuming the dealer offers you something reasonable.
jfavour brings up a good point with the back issue, the first generation CRV lacks lumbar support. The 2nd generation has good lumbar support. I think $15k on the 98 crv is a little steep considering you can buy a new one for 25% more. I would think 14k would be more reasonable. Check http://www.kbb.com
really starting to enjoy my new 2002 EX CRV after 2 weeks now. got my roof rack on with some minor installation trouble using the allen wrench. I'm experience no excessive wind noise as other people mentioned because of the roof rack.
The AWD system - know it's "real time" and supposed to react when it senses that power is slipping in the rear wheels. Question to everyone - is there anything else the driver has to do to have it work properly? The sales person mention that the car can't be in Cruise Control, which obvious as you probably wouldn't be using it in situations where the AWD is necessary. Do you have to be out of Overdrive? The owner's manual doesn't mention the AWD system.
The AWD system works with overdrive on or off, and the 4wd engages when the front wheels experience slippage. You don't have to do anything but press the gas on a slippery surface.
I would think the 4wd would engage with cruise control because the Awd system is controlled by hydraulics NOT a computer. So I think the dealer told our friend, Matt, the wrong information. I could be wrong, but I really don't think I am.
Like he Odyssey, the CRV has a painted dash and as far as I'm concerned there is not much you can do about the scratches. Just be careful, we no longer have the luxury of the vinyl dash, however, it shouldn't crack. rockycow
After a problem free 5000+ mile trip from Florida to Victoria BC Canada I decided to detail my 2000 CRV and steam clean the engine. Within minutes of picking up my SUV the yellow Engine Check warning light came on. I don't know if it's a coincidence or something about the steam cleaning. Any thoughts would be appreciated
daveghh -- You're right. The Honda Service Manual explicitly cites only two instances where the system will not be available. The first is braking in a forward gear. The other is if the system threatens to overheat due to prolonged engagement. Otherwise, it is completely hydraulic and can engage at ANY time the front wheels spin faster than the rears. Notice that Honda recommends towing the CR-V on a flatbed truck.
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Our new CRV has 800 miles on it now. We just took a 202 mile drive yesterday. Upon our return, I refueled and was happy to see it only took 7.4 gallons. Thats 27 mpg! My friend with his Xterra which never gets more than 18 mpg will cry when he hears about this.
Has anyone put on their own trailer hitch? I have an 02 CRV and would like to do some minor towing. Is the job easy enough for a minor handy-man? Do I need to add anything to the engine(coolant reserve,etc..)I thought I saw somewhere that you needed to get a towing package. Anyone had experience with towing ATV's with the CRV? Pros, cons?. Thanks for your expertise!
I took my 02 CR-V out to Race point beach on Cape Cod over July 4th weekend. The vehicle did quite well negotiating the soft sand. While climbing a moderately sized hill, it shifted seemlessly into 4WD. It took a little practice to climb the hill however. I am used to 4WD vehicles having a low and high shift and would employ the lower gearing to climb hills. I tended to push the gas a little too much on the CR-V which resulted in excessive wheel spin that will only dig the tires into the sand until you're buried to the frame. After a few tries I learned to feather the gas lightly and had no problems. It is nice not to have to give the 4WD a second thought, it being completely automatic, but I do wish you could choose between 4WD low and high.
On another note, because I've kept up to date on problems/issues some have had w/ their CR-V's, I tried to see if my driver's seat had any rocking to it. Sure enough I detected a slight rocking in the driver's seat. I purchased mine in June so supposedly this issue was to have been corrected at the factory. Well either Honda just blew the issue off or the fix wasn't effective because I have the same issue experienced by others. It is subtle now, but I think when I go in for my first oil change I'll have the dealer take a look at it.
My '02 EX was also supposedly past the cutoff for this problem, but the seat started to rock. Ever so slightly at first and just continued to get worse. I had the dealer repair it - TSB 02-017 - and it is better but I think I still feel a slight rock. Will have to give it some more time.
John - Have you got any pics? I haven't done much beach driving myself.
Johlw is coming up from Maryland shortly and wants to head off-road while he is on the cape. I suggested the beaches up in that area. If you have pics, they may help give him an idea on what to expect. Thanks!
are you close to 9000 miles on the odometer? If so it could be just a maintenance reminder to change oil. It should blink a few times, then go off. Eventually it will be steady. It needs to be reset with each oil change.(will go back on after 9000 miles). To reset, insert your key. Then push and hold the trip mileage reset button on the dash, turn the key to the on position.(keep holding the reset button while turning the key, for about 5 seconds until the maintenance light stops blinking.) Dealers usually forget this too. Hope this helps. Mine just started blinking yesterday too.
john: I'd like to see more low range gearing, too, and on a car-based SUV. The XTerra and Liberty are too truck-like for my tastes. Pathfinders aren't in my price range.
Jsdreher - There is some truth to that. The side airbags uses sensors built into the seatback and cushion to determine if the occupant on the passenger's side is out of position or a child(leaning to the side or two small for the airbag). Using aftermarket leather might interfere with the sensors. We really cannot say for certain.
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My brother in Recife just bought a brand new Civic - built in Brazil. Funny thing is that it's viewed as sort of a mid-size, even upscale car there.
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http://www.honda.co.uk/crv/images/crvaction3.jpg
Also, you can't post the picture here (legal reasons).
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That model was never offered here in the USA. I know it's a good looking photo, but it seems odd to me that it's posted everywhere.
I am considering a 2002 CR-V but am concerned about the car's ability to stay tight over the long run when being driven daily in pot-hole city. What is your experience? Thanks for any info you can give me.
Gary
What price should those be?, and which one is better for the value?. I live in DFW/TX area, thanks advance for all the advices.
If your priority is fuel economy, go with the hybrid civic.
If your priority is performance, go with the sentra spec v.
If your priority is interior room or cargo space or all wheel drive, go with the crv.
If your priority is price, I think the sentra spec v is the cheapest.
This is a pretty diverse list of cars to be selecting from, though. I would recommend spending some time on the edmunds site researching the 3 cars and checking out the TMV prices there to compare. That way you can select the car that best fits your needs.
Good luck!
Since you're all so helpful, what can I use on Rosebud's interior plastic to remove handprints and scratches? That stuff is so sensitive.
-juice
I found this on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1842698191
Does anybody know anything about this product? Any other info on boosting the CRV's HP?
Thanks....
As far as that eBay link you posted: Take a good look in the engine bay of your CR-V. There's already a piece that routes exhaust gases away from the intake manifold and into your exhaust. It's called the exhaust manifold. It has a metal heat shield, and it takes a rather direct route down into the catalytic converter, passing nowhere near the intake manifold. In fact, the intake and exhaust manifolds are on opposite sides of the engine block. So that listing is causing my DoubtMeter(tm) to register abnormal levels of, um, stuff.
I am on the lookout for a used CR-V and request some advice from you all owners. The main reasn why I want to buy a CR-V is a higher seating position than my current compact. Me & my wife have back problems and cannot sit for long in the low seating position of a sedan.
Am I being too hopeful in expecting a better seating compared to a sedan? Or would I be better off in a mini-van?
Also, I am looking at a 98-99 model (afordability issues). Would you advice if they're decent model years?
Thanks you kindly for any help,
-Hari
Hope that helps.
The 99 has 20 more horses so you may want to consider that year over the 98. Although I found the manual 98 and manual 99 to have the same power when I drove them both, the 99 being a little more engine loud. I think the 99 automatic makes a difference over the 98 automatic. THat's my two cents...
If you need an overview of the changes between '98 and '99, see . . .
http://users.ev1.net/~aurelio/crv/facts/index.html#mychrono
. . . for more USA first-generation CR-V data than should be allowed by law <GRIN>.
And, do you think $15K for a certified '98 CR-V with 50K miles, a fair deal?
Seriously, I think you may get screwed if you take the Pro in as a trade-in. I know it's more hassle, but you'll get more money out of a private sale than a trade-in at the dealer.
I'm sure you've already considered this, but the Pro has average resale so don't expect near what you paid for it back for on trade-in.
Wmquan - Going way back, I forgot to clarify something.
"I think the "bar is being raised" constantly on crash test scores. "Acceptable" may have been acceptable several years ago. But given that so many vehicles now get "Good", I think it's time to consider raising the bar. We all know that, overall, vehicles are safer today than in the past. So while we may be getting "diminishing returns" on safety, it's still important to distinguish the various levels."
I'd rather see new crash tests than simply raising the bar on the existing ones. I think this is what you were getting at when you mentioned diminishing returns. There comes a point when the differences are no longer worth noting. While we may be able to measure and rate a vehicle with 1mm of movement in the A pillar vs 2mm for another vehicle, that doesn't make the difference significant. It becomes academic rather than practical.
I would rather see new tests, that measure safety from different angles or different conditions. For example; Volvo and MB have demonstrated excellent structural designs with a rollover crash scenario. Other manufacturers conduct the same or similar test, but Volvo and MB have been the most public with it. Measurements based on that sort of test would be interesting to me.
Tom_k - I think that they are two different products aimed at two different markets. The Pilot is supposed to be more of a utility vehicle than the CR-V.
As for the commercials, I'd rather see something different, but I can't fault Honda for trying to compete with others in the market. If they aren't going to show it towing bikes or driving over the snow, what would they do? Show people snickering at mini-vans?
jfavour brings up a good point with the back issue, the first generation CRV lacks lumbar support. The 2nd generation has good lumbar support. I think $15k on the 98 crv is a little steep considering you can buy a new one for 25% more. I would think 14k would be more reasonable. Check http://www.kbb.com
Good luck!
The AWD system - know it's "real time" and supposed to react when it senses that power is slipping in the rear wheels. Question to everyone - is there anything else the driver has to do to have it work properly? The sales person mention that the car can't be in Cruise Control, which obvious as you probably wouldn't be using it in situations where the AWD is necessary. Do you have to be out of Overdrive? The owner's manual doesn't mention the AWD system.
Thanks!
rockycow
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they're no fun when you have to explain them ;-)
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On another note, because I've kept up to date on problems/issues some have had w/ their CR-V's, I tried to see if my driver's seat had any rocking to it. Sure enough I detected a slight rocking in the driver's seat. I purchased mine in June so supposedly this issue was to have been corrected at the factory. Well either Honda just blew the issue off or the fix wasn't effective because I have the same issue experienced by others. It is subtle now, but I think when I go in for my first oil change I'll have the dealer take a look at it.
Johlw is coming up from Maryland shortly and wants to head off-road while he is on the cape. I suggested the beaches up in that area. If you have pics, they may help give him an idea on what to expect. Thanks!
Anyone put 225/55R17 on their CRV?
Tirerack says those sizes will work on the CRV. I was thinking about getting the 17" wheels with Perelli Allroad tires.
-juice