2001 - 2006 Honda CR-Vs

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  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    An increase of about 6 dB doubles the perceived volume:


    http://www.skytopia.com/project/science/sound.html#12

  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    theracoon,
    Interesting link. It surely is subjectice to the human ear.
  • 2004runner2004runner Member Posts: 12
    I've done a ton of research, looking at reviews, consumer buying guides, message boards, etc. After considering the Toyota's RAV4 and Highlander, and even the Pilot, I can't get away from the fact that buying a CRV is just plain practical. Honda doesn't put a great deal of pizazz into the vehicle, but I can't find a vehicle that gives me this reliability record, as well as economy and good features for the money. I'd love a Highlander, but I can't get past the fact that the top of the line Highlander costs about $10 to 12k more than a fully equipped CRV. The RAV4 is just too cramped feeling. The Pilot doesn't seem like a great deal, either. I do have a question though: Does the 2002 CRV come with auto-off lights like the Accord? Also, if you use the remote to unlock the doors, do the interior lights come on? We have a 2000 Accord and I like these features. Thanks!
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    "If the mother-in-law is in the back seat, just keep her below 4000rpm." - juice

    To the contrary... That is exactly when you want a nice bit of engine song. =)
  • muckyduckmuckyduck Member Posts: 219
    I still am concerned about the clunking noise the brakes make when first going forward or reverse. I've read the explanations and they do sound correct, BUT, why did the brakes not do this when the cr-v was new? And the two cr-v's I took for a test drive before buying did not do this. I don't remember what mileage the brakes started doing this 'clunk', but they definitely did not make this sound when new.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Doubling the sound intensity increases the dB by 3 from the definition of decibels. [db = 10 log10(Intensity/Reference)] Perception is another matter entirely!

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    5dB, 8, 3, 6, if the stock hits 9 I think we should sell! :-)

    -juice
  • saber86saber86 Member Posts: 128
    My CR-V does the same thing but it only seems to do it in the mornings or when engine is cool. Service advisor at my dealer tells me its normal something about brake system warming up or something like that. I started hearing the clunking noise several weeks after i got it.
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    2004runner,
    -If you leave the door open the 2002 CRV interior dome light will eventually shut off automatically (I never checked the headlights for this feature).
    -When you unlock the doors with the remote the interior dome light does come on and remains on for some time.

    My father looked at the Highlander and couldn't justify the extra $$$ for such a few unique features so he ended up with the 2002 CRV.
  • 2004runner2004runner Member Posts: 12
    davegh - thanks for the response. Our Odyssey's lights act much the same way as the Accord. I'm going to assume the CR-V is identical.
    Unless someone else knows better. One thing on the CRV that is a bit of a curiosity. Why do you suppose that they didn't put a power door lock switch on the front passenger door? Just seems a bit odd, don't you think?
    Finally, I know that I will need to upgrade the sound system. At least the speakers anyway because, simply stated, the factory speakers sound a bit a.m.-ish. Does anyone have some good advice for what kind of speakers, or how to make the systeme sound better without investing major $$$? THANKS!
  • 2000taurussel2000taurussel Member Posts: 8
    I test drove the 2002 Honda CRV EX today.... Loved it!!!

    I drove the vehicle for approx. 25 minutes... city streets and the freeway. I paid close attention to the noises and compared to my 2000 Ford Taurus... THERE WAS NO NOISE! I expect to have some road/wind noise, and I can live with some noise. Again, you want to hear noise? Drive a Ford Taurus. I also paid attention to the "pick up" the vehicle had during acceleration... IT WAS MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE!

    The only thing that I was unable to confirm was reliabilty. I am taking everyones word that I will not be sorry for going to a Honda. I am able to testify that Honda's reliability has to be better than Ford's. For me... time will tell.

    Anyway, I enjoyed the overall experience of the CRV. I too looked at all the other SUV's, and I can not justify spending anymore money or time. All I need to do now is find the "best buy" on a CRV.

    Thanks for all the information... I found this website to be very helpful. I am glad to be part of the Honda Family.
  • tomsrtomsr Member Posts: 325
    I found the most convenient data source is
    through Yahoo Autos.When you find the particular vehicle you are researching scroll to the bottom and there is a link to autosite after you click
    on performance.I think decibel readings will be different from each testing party.Edmunds lists
    the CRV at 76db at 70mph vs Autosites reading of
    70 db.
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    tomsr,
    That is quite a bit of difference between 76 and 70 db! More or less doubling the sound the ear hears! Thanks for the source, it is cool...
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    The weather did not cooperate with the testing schedule for Edmund's. It is possible that the roads were wet when they checked the sound meter. Wet roads are louder than dry roads. There's no way to be certain, though. They just mention that there was intermittent rain during performance testing.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    2000Taurussel - The 2002 CR-V's reliability is suspect at this time. There is little data to prove that it is either good or bad. We do know that it was ranked second in the JD Powers Initial Quality Survey, but that survey only covers the first 90 days of ownership. It's not a long term sample.

    In the past, the CR-V has been the top dog on the reliability charts (per Consumer Reports). We'll have to wait to see how well the newly designed CR-V will do. That magazine should be out in six months or so.

    If I had to speculate, I'd guess that CR-V reliability is still above average, but not as high as the outgoing model. The 2002 redesign has/had some first year bugs to work out. That is to be expected with any new car.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    My '99 CRV started doing that at about 35K miles. It would make the noise, but only the first time I hit the brakes when going in a particular direction. Each succeeding time, the brakes were quiet. I lived with the noise until I needed front brake pads and the rear drums adjusted. Brakes have been quiet ever since.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    My '99 CRV started doing that at about 35K miles. It would make the noise, but only the first time I hit the brakes when going in a particular direction. Each succeeding time, the brakes were quiet. I lived with the noise until I needed front brake pads and the rear drums adjusted. Brakes have been quiet ever since.
  • intmed99intmed99 Member Posts: 485
  • tomsrtomsr Member Posts: 325
    I hope the 02 CRV is not an experiment.I remember
    when I bought a new 82 Accord it developed a short
    in the wiring because a connector could not handle
    the current and melted.Turns out it was a recall
    that I did not learn about till I had already spent a lot of money on it.So first year models
    are a gamble.In Hondas defense at least they say
    (oops) and fix the problem not like some makers
    who deny any design flaws.
  • tom_ktom_k Member Posts: 16
    How many rpm does the engine turn in 5th at 60 mph on a 2002 CR-V? I haven't been able to drive a 2002 model with a stick, but the automatic I drove was turning about 2200 - 2250. Based on data in a Car and Driver road test article, with the stick in 5th, it would be doing 60 mph at 2807 rpm. Is that right or am I working with a typo?
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    How many new models has honda introduced since 82? Sure, first year models will always have a higher probability of something minor needing a warranty fix, but I think honda has put themselves into the category where I would not expect a major problem. Any problem would be fixed under warranty, as you said, unlike some makers.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Tom: it's true, Honda does seem to make an earnest attempt to fix problems, and even buys back most lemons, I've heard.

    But there are some growing pains. The Ody's sliding doors are still problematic, as are the trannies. The Civic only got an "average" reliability rating from CR, after decades of setting the standard.

    The CR-V was among their best, so even if the new Civic platform isn't quite as reliable as the old one, and that affects the CR-V, IMO it'll still be near the top of the class.

    -juice
  • driver36driver36 Member Posts: 57
    Hi All,

    Thanks for your inputs, and now I am sure CR-V is a smart choice to own for a mini SUV. What about the Honda's new Element? They share the same engine as the CR-V and it cost less. Any curent CR-V owner might change of heart if they knew about the Element is coming this Dec. Any inputs would be much appreciated ;o)
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    driver36,
    I would have considered the Element over the CRV, too late for the time being for me. Good lick deciding, I am sure you will love either!
  • rerenov8rrerenov8r Member Posts: 380
    Honda has played a not very friendly game with the Element. If you try to equip it so that if behaves more like a foreshortened CR-V than a bargin bin special it costs 95% as much as the CR-V and you still are getting somthing that is much less than a CR-V...

    I suppose for folks who ABSOLUTELY will not need four doors/ five seats the Element is a better deal, but otherwise it just has VERY little content.

    I think the Element may help to get folks into showrooms, especically the "21 and under" crowd, but I don't feel that too many of even the 'young & hip' will choose the Element if they can afford the CR-V, IF they can live with four REAL doors ;)

    I don't see many 21 & unders driving Xterras or frankly new vehicles at all. I think the "entry level" job market has gotten hit VERY hard and the 21 & unders just are tapped out... Could make the Element a tough sell.
  • svenlusksvenlusk Member Posts: 1
    Hi all,
    Just bought a CRV-EX and wondering if I should get the extended warranty, rust proofing, and paint protection for the vehicle?
    Any suggestions???
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Maybe, maybe, nope.

    Ext. warranties are a bet that something major will go wrong during the coverage period (i.e., the 4th through 7th year or so). You can buy it anytime before the factory warranty expires, so no rush.

    Nobody much in the States gets rust protection anymore, but many of your fellow Canadians still swear by it.

    Paint protection is car wax - cheaper to do it yourself.

    my .02

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  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Driver36 - As always, it depends on what you are going to use it for.

    The Element has a better cargo area, bed feature, and "more" style. In general, I'd say that the Element is a better utility vehicle for those who enjoy outdoor sports. It's also way more funky.

    The CR-V gets better gas mileage, has a 5th seat, and better off-road ability. It's a better all-purpose vehicle. It works for most of the toys, but also accomodates the family.

    Svenlusk - Ditto what Steve wrote. I wouldn't bother with any of it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The catch with the Element is that Honda decided to market a stripped DX model instead of the better equipped LX. So add the pricey A/C option, and the price advantage evaporates.

    So choose based on merit, not price. Are 4 seats enough all the time for you? Do you mind a little more noise in order to get that hose-out interior? Do you like standing out from the crowd, and is that worth the trade-offs?

    -juice
  • jfigueroa1jfigueroa1 Member Posts: 209
    Just bought a CRV-EX and wondering if I should get the extended warranty, rust proofing, and paint protection for the vehicle?

    Remember that all dealer install options are under warranty for only 12month/12,000miles so the paint protection/rust proofing is useless
    considering that you are cover under the honda factory warranty.
    Greetings from sunny Miami
  • rerenov8rrerenov8r Member Posts: 380
    Sweeten the pot on DIO installed prior/at delivery by giving them the blanket of 3/36??

    I think that if you do get the extended and have the DIO prior to delivery you then get extended on MOST DIOs too -- might some expert confirm?

    As to the value of Ext Warranty, it is gamble, with the 'house' having odds stacked WAY in their favor, though if you are own the one-in-whatever who has a major system failure...

    Rust proofing is just not worth it, if they charge enough to make money AND do a good job nobody could afford it. They just don't add enough EXTRA protection at a dealer to justify the cost.

    No doubt, paint protection is TOTAL WASTE! Rip off. Pure profit. DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER!!
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    It say somewhere in the manual that rust-proofing should NOT be applied to the CR-V because Honda has already taken measures against rust?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They spray tar from a can on the undercarriage. You can actually buy the stuff for like $2.75 a can.

    Besides, if they're not careful, they'll clog the drains under the side skirts. Pretty soon you'll hear water sloshing around your door sills.

    -juice
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    Here in the Nawth, salt does a number on aluminum and other under hood bits.

    What's a good "keep it looking new" protection? WD40, silicone spray, Mazola?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    WD40 shouldn't be used on rubber or plastic, so it would be nearly impossible to apply that neatly.

    Honestly? I wouldn't put anything on.

    -juice
  • rerenov8rrerenov8r Member Posts: 380
    I've not had problems under the hood.I do make an effort to keep the firewall CLEAN as well as other metal areas. I belive that dirt traps the moisture and give the salt more chance to do harm. I don't often go for the power washer, generally just a rag to get the grit and dirt off every few weeks.

    The door panels and wheel arches on my 94 Jimmy are rusty, mostly from being parked on street in the winter so the city trucks literally coated the poor thing with salt...
  • 2000taurussel2000taurussel Member Posts: 8
    I bought a 2002 CRV EX - SILVER. I had a great experience going through a local Southern California Dealer's Internet Website. I got the CRV at $500.00 below invoice. Foglights and Crossbars (Roof Rack) will be installed next week.

    I traded in my #*@&$ 2000 Ford Taurus. I will not be sorry that I did it. I doubt that I will ever go back to Ford vehicles again.

    Gosh, I guess that I need to change my Login Name!! ---- NO MORE "2000TAURUSSEL" ---- I think that I will change my Login name to "SURF_CITY_CRV"
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  • chasbo77chasbo77 Member Posts: 3
    Tom, I have a 2002 5 speed and checked it last night, at 60 mph the tac read just about 2800, so I would say it is not a typo Chas
  • tom_ktom_k Member Posts: 16
    Thanks, Chas. Maybe the extra rpm on manuals accounts for some of the noise discussed recently?

    Speaking of noise, Honda may have done something about it for the 2003 CR-Vs. The just-released 2003 brochure talks about sound damping materials on the floor, hood, door pillars and roof. Also, double door seals for wind noise. I don't know if these are new or if they are taking credit for what was already there.
  • mainemanxmainemanx Member Posts: 70
    tom_k

    Brochure? What brochure? Dealer? Or?
  • tom_ktom_k Member Posts: 16
    Mainemanx, I was referring to the Honda company brochure for the 2003 CR-V. They started showing up in the dealerships around here (southeast Virginia) this past week.
  • inkieinkie Member Posts: 281
    Should it not be 500.00 above invoice? Its amazinging their selling below invoice even on a '02 leftover. Either way thats a pretty good price. Good luck from another previous Taurus owner.
  • robmarchrobmarch Member Posts: 482
    or possibly 500 off retail. it's pretty common to mix up retail and invoice, from what I've seen. either way, congrats, and enjoy !
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Back in May prices were more like $500 off MSRP, FWIW.

    -juice
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    Anyone want to help me find a way to install climate control in the US 2002 CRV's? In Europe they come equipped with temperature controls, you turn the dial to the right temperature and Voila!

    The controls are very easy to remove, I have done such to install the fog lights myself. This unit could be replaced by a European one with the temperature gauge, then a sensor will probably be needed and can be tapped into a wire. Once we knew what to do it would be an easy install!

    Anyone wanna investigate this with me???
  • jmaterojmatero Member Posts: 253
    The auto temp control is not simply a dash control swap... there are multiple sensors on the interior and for outside temp, different HVAC box with computer controlled actuators, etc. It's a pretty complicated affair. Also, As somebody who always wished for auto climate control and then GOT IT.... I can tell you, it's not all it's cracked up to be. I mean, there are definately drawbacks. For instance, setting it to 74 degrees on one day seems too hot, other days fine, other days too cold. Then there is the issue where the fan goes to full blast to try and cool/heat the cabin and you find yourself coming out of auto to manual just to lower the fan... or raise it in some instances. Then there's moving it out of auto because at certain temps the "system" says air should be coming out of the dash vents only and you want it on the floor. Or your hands are cold and the 'system' decides to send it half to the floor and windshield.

    You get the drift? I've had it in a number of cars now and if I could go back to manual, I would. The only cars I've seen it actually work in are some Lexus, infiniti, Caddy and Audi models... the expensive cars with great sophisticated systems that monitor humidity, sunlight and indoor/outdoor temps as well as having interior sensors in a few places in the cabin.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The Forester XS has climate control, and some owners feel the same way. I say keep it simple.

    -juice
  • surf_city_crvsurf_city_crv Member Posts: 1
    I stand corrected! Thanks! I feel like a fool by stating that I got $500.00 off Invoice. I found that the Honda Dealers that I visited were tacking on $1,900.00 - $2,000.00 to the sticker price. So when I was able to get mine for $500.00 under sticker, I was excited. I guess I was excited about getting rid of the Ford Taurus and I was under the Honda spell, that I misstated facts.

    I have a question.... I was thinking of getting sheepskin seatcovers, but realized that I may not be able to because of the "side air bags" that are located on the side of the seats. Does anyone know if there are seat covers that leave the "side air bags" exposed? I haven't had the time to look on the internet yet.
  • kentwongkentwong Member Posts: 36
    I heard that the new Accord's oil change interval is every 10K miles. Is it amazing or what? The same service for the CR-V is 6 month / 6k miles, am I right? they have the same engine.
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