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I don't know if this was a good sign or not, but this particular Chevy dealer's lot was packed with new cars, to the point that they were actually lined up on the street leading to the dealership, and sort of blending into the Toyota dealer's territory.
So either Chevys are selling well again, and they're keeping a full stock to meet demand, or they're not selling, and this is just the inventory swelling up. Either way, it was kinda nice seeing the lot well-stocked. Last time I was out there, the lot seemed a little thin.
Only if I like the product.
I certainly wouldn't purchase a Malibu over a Mexican built Fusion if I liked the fusion better.
Unfortunately I have often felt the same way. It's sad when price is the main reason for buying a vehicle from the D3, instead of actually buying the best product in the segment.
Outside of pickups there are only a couple of D3 vehicles I'd be willing to spend my own money on.
Those recalls haven't affected to many vehicles has it? But yeah, Ford shouldn't have these issues.
There a few Ford vehicles I really like, but reliability/durability is certainly not one of the reasons I like them.
Ford has done a fabulous job of improving their products over past 5 years or so considering how bad their product lineup had become.
They have a long way to go and certainly can't let up. But I've been impressed with how quick they've been continually improving their vehicles.
Lincoln is still a mess, and I don't know if it can be saved, but Ford for the most part has a solid lineup.
Remember how the tsunami in Japan completely, and I mean completely, hamstrung Toyota and Honda production, despite all the claims of high NA-content. Why was that?
And I might add, the fellow commenting negatively on American products wasn't talking about comparing one car to another. He was making a flat statement, which I found embarrassing.
Remember, just last month the Cruze outsold the Focus by a large amount, so maybe the 2013's are being produced to fill gaps left by not much 2012 product left.
You do make a valid point, though, in that it's a bit of poor planning to have only one source location provider for essential parts.
Cruze had a good month for sure, I'd be curious to see fleet sales. In August Chevy as a division was 30% fleet.
The Verano is selling well, better than I expected, but it looks like it is killing the Regal as it was down 45% moving 2,072 units vs 5,200 for the Verano.
But why not just price them lower then? What logic does it make to over price the sticker and then have to over discount to sell?
1 - They miscalculated the market. Normally one would think a price drop would correct that, but incentives come out of marketing's budget, not operations, so they hide the loss on each vehicle.
2 - They know the market very well, and want to hit up the early adopters for extra cash. After that, incentives are applied to make the car the correct market price.
3 - They know what the price is supposed to be, but by jacking up the price and then offering "discounts" they make their customers feel like they're getting a better deal.
That only fools a sucker of a customer.
When I sat in the recent model CTS, the price tag just screamed to me (overpriced). It was a nice enough car, and drove pretty good, but I'm thinking more 30K in my heart, not 40K!
I know I know, it's 5 series sized, but honestly, the leg room inside didn't seem much, if any, bigger than the 3 Series.
Another important thing in value, when a part goes bad/wrong/breaks down, it's good if when covered by warranty, the replacement is "improved/corrected" so that the same problem doesn't happen again in more or less equal mileage or time.
A good example of this is the diverter valve on VW/Audi's 2.0T. A known failure prone part; the replacement is newly revised, more durable and improved.
No. On the column. It has been a great utility type vehicle. Very reliable. This in contrast to my Chevy Suburban, a fine vehicle, but no where near the engineering excellence of the Honda.
Especially if there's only one supplier, with one source manufacturing location...
Think that Mopar had auto transmission buttons on the dash back in late 50's early 60's?
Oh I know. Having owned a Suburban, it felt and looked like it was built from a parts bin of mix matched parts all sourced from the lowest bidder.
Ridiculous.
That does seem a bit much, but that's easily fixed by easing up on the option sheet.
I have a feeling you may never see another v8 in a Cadillac other than the v-series.
You think there aren't plenty out there to be fooled? it's unfortunate but true.
Then how was it spec'd to your standards;)
And now, they've tried to imitate it more closely with the current extended Expedition, which is probably a lot cheaper to build. But I don't think it sells nearly as well as the Suburban.
I think there's always going to be a core market for the Suburban...construction companies, ranches, etc...people who need the capacity to pull a trailer and good passenger/cargo capacity. So, it will probably continue to sell based on those needs. But I think the market has pretty much shaken out the poseurs who want one simply to flaunt conspicuous consumption.
There's just not enough market for more than 1-2 major players, though. If the Japanese really wanted to, I'm sure they could take an Armada or Sequioa and lengthen it to make a Suburban contender. But the Armada itself seems to sell poorly, and I don't think the Sequoia sells all that well these days, either.
After sampling all of them, I don't understand why the suburban/Tahoe sell so much more than the others. I guess a lot of people just go to the default option. Which I almost did again until I drove the others and realized there were better options for me.
I often wish I would have bought the El version of the expedition. I do miss the extra room behind the 3rd row.
I agree with you, there will always be a market for a full size bof suv.
To me, the quality of interior materials looks improved when compared to the previous car.
That pic looks like it could have been taken after I adjusted the seat to fit me!
For all I hear about here, about how Honda is so much better on handling out-of-warranty issues than GM, that is not my real-life experience, nor my coworker's.
Seems like the rags go through brakes in general. Needed front and rear pads on my expedition at 70k. I've had a slight vibration from the brakes for the past 20k miles. A magg probably would have them resurfaced or replaced. Since most of my driving is highway and rural.it hasn't bothered me enough to do anything about it.
ROFL. The half price business is half of a ridiculously high price resulting in a cost about the same as at a good independent shop.
If this story were about a GM product, we'd be hearing nothing but ridicule about how GM this and GM didn't that and.... Let's just be honest...
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
My dad had to have the rear brake pads replaced on his accord at 30k miles. Not a big deal considering how much he likes the car. It is his first non domestic and I'm guessing not his last either.
A. The seat should not be allowed to travel that far back so as to eliminate the rear seat's legroom completely. Not unless that's the only way to provide enough legroom for 6 footers in the front. This car is too small to be considered a "midsize" here. And as I mentioned, compacts are going to beat it out for legroom. That's a problem.
Once again, you are equating best-selling with 'better'. If that were the case, the Cruze must be the best compact car. Agree?
Ditto!
Regards,
OW
As far as being able to put up with warped rotors if you like the rest of the vehicle--warped rotors are my pet peeve. Nothing bothers me on a car more than that. And what sucks is, usually it comes back even with new rotors. Since the news came out a decade or more ago that overtightening lug nuts can cause it, I think the main reason for it these days is weak engineering.